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Ishmael Wrote:
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> Here's one trick to using the search function. A
> lot of times I'll search and not get anything,
> before I remember to go down to the bottom of the
> page and change the time searched from the default
> time, the last month, to something more broader,
> like the last year, or ever.
>
> >I understand the issues and I really thought the
> questions I asked wouldn't be too hard to answer
> and >would easily proceed to a thought provoking
> conversation.
>
> Here's one thing you did completely wrong. You
> asked in the wrong place. This board, 'Member
> Introductions', isn't one of the places designated
> for substantive questions, as you can see by
> reading the posts.
>
> So, I looked at what you've posted on the other
> boards, and the only question you've asked is a
> classic, "Give me your trade secrets so I can take
> your work away from you without doing any
> research," question. I know you didn't mean it
> that way, but that's how it looks to other people.
> Note that phone shops can often be done from
> anywhere in the country.
>
> >So where can I get more info on routes?
> The boards. If you have a more specific question,
> and you should, by now, why not ask it?
>
> >If I'm willing to put 80-120 hours of shopping in
> a week. What can I expect to make?
> Depends on what you're shopping, what part of the
> country you're working from, how good your
> reputation is with the companies you're shopping
> for, and a whole bunch of other things.
>
> >What are the most desired type of shop?
> Ask ten people and you'll get ten answers. Or
> possibly, eleven answers. However, I'd say that
> phone shops are one of the least desired, except
> for people who find it difficult to leave their
> homes, for one reason or another. Personally, my
> most desired type would be something highly
> bonused, in my home town, with neither extensive
> narratives nor split-second timing. Unfortunately,
> I haven't found one of those, yet.
>
> >Which shops typically pay most?
> It's got to be the kinds I haven't done yet.
> Actually, probably the heavily bonused ones,
Did anyone pay you to type this ? I wish more people like you posted! I'll provide initial thoughts after reading your post. After I'll try to give you a few tips that have helped me.
I know I've said it a few times about being on other forums. Well what I'm use to is when large forums with hundreds of thousands of post. They usually try to consolidate most of the topics. Or provide a FAQ. Kind of like the first 11 post that I was told to read. Which I did and would recommend to any shoppers to read. I've booked marked to re-read.
Anyways usually someone would consolidate everything about "Routes". Or some members may write how to do routes effectively into 1 thread. When I did my search I was mostly looking for this. Searching Routes turned up many threads. Most of which would appear in topics that weren't originally created for such discussion. Therefore a 20 reply post may have 2-3 about routes. So I'm left to read through a bunch of threads I don't care about reading at the moment. As I'm researching Routes.
Usually I'm pretty good with search, just not on this site.
The next spot about it not being in the right place. My initial request was asking for links (So I can read) or specific search terms other users have found to be useful. Seems like this is an unreasonable request for some reason. I said I was going to do it different. I not only introduced myself, I introduced my initial thoughts after reading. At first I thought Member Introduction was a sub forum of New Mystery Shoppers. So sorry I confused "New Mystery Shoppers" being the place to post introductions for "New Mystery Shoppers". I should prolly be crucified for the confusion.
The I want to take your work stuff. I don't know how people came to that conclusion. Because I said I want to be the best? There is no "The Best". "The Best" is usually a group of people who sit at the top. It's more like a tax bracket and imagine all the oil/pharm/tv owners at the top. I just want to learn whatever it may be to be recognize as very valuable asset in this business.
What's so wrong with that? I'm not out to steal anyone's business. In fact I'm the complete opposite. I find I'm able to succeed more by not being greedy. If I were to be successful at this, I would take 3-4 shoppers with me. Front all of the fees and ask for a small % of profits back in return. So believe it or not. I return favors and I never ask anyone to do something for me I'm not willing to do in return for them.
I guess I was asking what would the most optimal plan would be. If I was ever successful I would come here and tell other's what I have learned. I like to travel I won't be in one place for very long. Unless it's Vegas, I'm taking Vegas over. I just want to have fun and make money doing it. If a scheduler says "Hey if you can come to Jersey I got 40 shops needing to be done". Great I'll get on all the other company's and figure out how to work around those 40. Then after work I spend a few days exploring and planning my next trip/shop. I was asking people who would never do this how they would if they had the desire or were able to. Most people here aren't willing to travel internationally to do shops for months straight. Does that make me the best? Well it may make me the one who makes the most money. But I put in the most hours that should be expected. I don't think being the Best and who makes the most money. I was just trying to share my idea's and get feedback from people who were WILLING and wanted to help. I only come across the way people choose to take me.
I'll reword the desired question. Are any shops consider "Prestigious" ? Is there a position or something a mystery shopper wish's they could do? Say a promotion or a certain job? I guess another way to put it would be supply/demand. Which type of shops are harder to come by? I kind of feel like a spy and I like that.
I see what you're saying about phone shops. But I was wanting to start with about 500-1000 and reinvest all of the profits/reimbursements to my shopping funds. It takes money to make money. If you spend 1000 and get 1400 back. That's a 40% ROI. That's really good. Most checking accounts don't clear 1%. So being able to do a 40% ROI is a great investment. I can say most people aren't looking at this the optimal way. I see all these people saying they are running a business. Then I see them complain.
There's a post asking about 5$ for a 12 minute shop. That's 5 shops an hour for 25$. Most 4 year degrees don't make 25$ an hour starting out. There's so much money to be made here. I mean this is advertising. This is business. If you think you can run a business without being educated in business finance. I'm not saying you need to go to college, I've never been. I'm just saying you have to learn it.
Let's say you find a shop. 5r + 5f. The shop takes 5 minutes. You have a route where you can do 20 of these shops a day. 365 days that's 3,000 a month. Now if you flake in say 500$ in phone calls, and you do 5 shops a day at 15r + 40 fee. You're making some serious money. If you can figure out how to get that 5r to be profit. You're rolling in money in 4-5 years if invested properly. I've looked up some key business/financial terms I draw blanks.
The only thing I've learned here is if people have successful business's with this. They aren't telling. I came to this forum from reading and doing search's. Telling me to do search's is like telling an author to write. I said I'm not looking for the usual responses. I think someone who wanted to help who read my post. Would know the questions I'm trying to ask. If I knew the question exactly I wouldn't of posted. Yet it seems like only a few took my post in the context in which it was presented.
She said I've insulted the owners and people of this forum. I don't know where I insulted anyone.