My pizza delivery guy kept the change

I did a pizza delivery shop tonight. Driver arrives with the pizza, tells me it's $11.24. I hand him a $20 and he gives me $8 back. I kind of look at him curiously and ask if he just gave himself a tip. He said no. So, (like a dope) I go ahead and give me $2 bucks (even though I'm only going to get reimbursed $1, but who really gives only a $1 tip for pizza delivery?)

The bottom line is I just give this guy a $2.76 tip for delivering a lousy pizza. My kids won't eat it. The dog, however, seems to like it. ;-)

So I'm just mildly venting here, mostly to remind myself to NEVER do another pizza shop, no matter how much they beg.

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He said no, after not giving you the coin change? Did he say that with a straight face?

I would have only given a dollar in addition if he did that to me. Or nothing at all.

If you were required to give at least $1, you could always SAY you gave him a dollar, just like he SAID he didn't keep the change.

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Around here tipping a buck would make you look like an idiot. Your situation was different and itsasecret had the perfect solution.

BTW, when it comes to that kind of a shop begging doesn't mean diddly. Tell them to show you the money

It is perceived value versus real value. To the client and MSC you tipped a dollar and received a yummy pizza, total value $12.24. The rest of us know you got a crappy pizza and screwed out of $1.76.

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sportsed1 Wrote:
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> I did a pizza delivery shop tonight. Driver
> arrives with the pizza, tells me it's $11.24. I
> hand him a $20 and he gives me $8 back. I kind of
> look at him curiously and ask if he just gave
> himself a tip. He said no. So, (like a dope) I go
> ahead and give me $2 bucks (even though I'm only
> going to get reimbursed $1, but who really gives
> only a $1 tip for pizza delivery?)
>
> The bottom line is I just give this guy a $2.76
> tip for delivering a lousy pizza. My kids won't
> eat it. The dog, however, seems to like it. ;-)
>
> So I'm just mildly venting here, mostly to remind
> myself to NEVER do another pizza shop, no matter
> how much they beg.

I always have the exact change. I always check the pizza before I give him any money. Once I am satisfied I pay him the exact money. Afterwards, I tip.

What's up with that keep-the-change thing? Within the past couple of months, 2 Sonic carhops and one McDonald's inside counter person have kept the change. All 3 times, I waited ..... and they moved on. All 3 times I asked "My change?" The McD and one of the Sonic carhops looked at me like I'd lost my mind and gave me the change. The other Sonic carhop said "What change?" It was 92 cents. I had to tell her. She acted very puzzled, shuffled around and shook her head, and said she didn't understand. I explained that the total was $9.08 and I had given her a $20 bill. She looked me in the eye and said "Well, I gave you a ten back." It wasn't the 92 cents .... or the change in the other two cases. It was the principle.

What's up with that? Is this some new trend, keeping change? It's odd, because I really had never seen that and then it happened 3 times almost in a row........

I have noticed so many younger employees have a VERY hard time figuring out the change, unless their screen tells them exactly what change to give out. I find it frustrating. Aren't they teaching basic math in schools any more?

I had a Sonic carhop ASK if I wanted the change the other day and I told her to keep it. I wonder if they're getting so many "keep the change" incidents that they just assume nobody wants their coins back any more.

I'll usually tell them to keep the pennies if I have four cents or less coming back. But that's four pennies, not 92 cents!

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I was at wendy's yesterday and my order was 5.28.
I gave them a $5 bill, a quarter and a nickel.
They had to think about how much change to give me back.
It wasn't even a "hard" one where I give a few pennies to get the
extra dollar bill back...

Wendy's is converting all their stores to automatically dispense
the change so the cashier dont have to touch the register other
then put money in into it. She was trained at one of these stores.

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That stinks if the tip didn't cover reimbursement, but for a $12.00 pizza or any $12.00 ish delivery, I'd automatically give $3.00. That might be a bit too much, but I can't imagine just tipping a dollar. I'd worry about my future orders having extra garlic salt (dandruff) or having my kids chicken fingers down someones pants. LOL Sorry, I have read too many nonfiction books, such as Waiters Rant and watched too many movies, hence: Waiting, and watched way too many scary documentaries and watched what scorned staff do to food.

I think in all areas of service, tipping should be reviewed with the public somehow. Not too long ago, I was on a girls trip and one of the "girls" left a $1.50 for her housekeeper! Before we left, I snuck more cash on the desk! $1.50 was probably fine 20 years ago, but not today. Then again, every six weeks I tip my stylist and I feel I am OVER tipping because of what she already charges! Eek!

Guess that's my sermon for the day.

Agree or disagree, I love this forum and all its wonderful members!

I complained about this one to the MSC, and they bonused it and the next two shops, which I appreciated.

Another lesson learned for me. There are lots of good MSC out there who listen and respond to their shoppers when tey have legtimate concerns. And then there are some who treat us like fruit flies. It we all die off, well, there's a new swarm on the way.

I don't think basic math is what it used to be. My bill came to $7 and I gave the clerk $12, poor girl couldn't figure out that I wanted $5 back, she kept arguing that I had given her too much money.

I always tip well. I was a waitress many years ago and my daughter used to be a waitress while going to college. Most people don't realize they do not make minimum wage. They are expected to make the difference in their pay from tips. I have a son in college who does pizza delivery and he does not make minimum wage either. Some depend on tips to survive. I don't think some people realize how little some of these people make and some do not tip at all. Guess that is why I always tip well. All the local delivery guys definitely remember me and I always get great service.....

Some people just don't like the concept, but unless the whole system is changed it is not fair to take it out on the person relying on those tips. The alternative would be to have the system in Europe where there is no tipping, servers are paid a living wage and the price is reflected in the meal. Then people could complain about the meal prices doubling.

AK_Fan Wrote:
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> I always tip well. I was a waitress many years
> ago and my daughter used to be a waitress while
> going to college. Most people don't realize they
> do not make minimum wage. They are expected to
> make the difference in their pay from tips. I
> have a son in college who does pizza delivery and
> he does not make minimum wage either. Some depend
> on tips to survive. I don't think some people
> realize how little some of these people make and
> some do not tip at all. Guess that is why I
> always tip well. All the local delivery guys
> definitely remember me and I always get great
> service.....

Depends on the state you live in. Here in Oregon, servers make minimum wage plus all of their tips. A lot of people don't know that because they think servers make like $2.00 an hour. Not here, but we're still expected to tip the same as if we were in a state that doesn't pay minimum wage to servers. I haven't done any research to see if a typical meal costs more in Oregon compared to states that don't pay minimum age. I think I would just be annoyed at the results.

My ex- was a pizza delivery driver when we were first dating 20+ years ago, and whether he could take me to dinner (which was usually "fast casual" anyway) depended on how much he made in tips. Paychecks went to rent and utilities, and tips and driver money were what he actually lived off of... and, yes, he had two roommates. He went back to it for several months after we got married while we were trying to find jobs in a new town (near his parents), but the tips there were abysmal and the neighborhoods... well, he was crazy enough to go into some areas where other drivers wouldn't go. What part of town he was working in, and how they tipped there, made a huge difference in his budget.. and for a while, that was *our* budget, and those were *very* lean days. I always try to tip well as long as I am happy with the service, because I know what it feels like on the other side of things.

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/11/2013 04:04AM by RiverSong.

I think companies should pay their employees a living wage and not expect the customers to do it for them. It's not fair to the employees or the customers. Seems like everyone has their hand out these days. There are tip jars in fast food restaurants -- for what? Those clerks behind the counter aren't "waiters," they're "cashiers." You don't tip the cashier at the grocery store, why should you be expected to do it at the Dairy Queen?

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spaztck Wrote:
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> Aren't they teaching basic math in schools any more?

No.

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I was a bellhop in college. During the tourist season, I could make $200-250 on a good day in tips. In a week, I could make enough to pay my college tuition and books for a year--granted, this was back in the late 70's.

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I am so SICK of "tip jars" everywhere! it has really soured me and I am just stopping it. The economy is lousey all over, sometimes they are lucky people can even afford to come in and get fast food, let alone TIP for it.....I know this could be a sensitive subject but enough is enough......

AustinMom Wrote:
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> The other Sonic carhop said "What change?" It was 92
> cents. I had to tell her. She acted very
> puzzled, shuffled around and shook her head, and
> said she didn't understand. I explained that the
> total was $9.08 and I had given her a $20 bill.
> She looked me in the eye and said "Well, I gave
> you a ten back."

I would have said, "Well, that wasn't enough!" Maybe
you should have convinced her that she owed you eleven!

Do any of these people realize what they're doing? Maybe
the company needs to be notified. How could they get
away with that at McD's? Did they have a tip jar or leave
it in the register?

I haven't had this happen to me around here--yet.

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Sonic did that to me and I saw the guy put change in his pocket. As a non shop I called the manager. He said Really? I said yes. He said have a nice day. Thanks. Will not be back.

I used to belong to a gym and pool with a bar/restaurant and pool service. In a rush to leave on one particularly hot day I looked at the total and gave the pool server a generous tip. At home later I found he added an 17% service charge which was part of that total resulting in a tip that was beyond generous. While talking to the manager I told her if he felt my tips were lacking he could just have the service charge and nothing more. She said that wasn't happening either and credited everything back to me.

My husband calls me anal for counting out the exact cents. I then make it clear what the tip is by adding another $1 or $2. Here lately I have been giving up to $5 because my younger brother delivers pizza and is very grateful when he gets those hefty tips.....Sometimes from Trailer park residents.

sportsed1 Wrote:
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> I did a pizza delivery shop tonight. Driver
> arrives with the pizza, tells me it's $11.24. I
> hand him a $20 and he gives me $8 back. I kind of
> look at him curiously and ask if he just gave
> himself a tip. He said no. So, (like a dope) I go
> ahead and give me $2 bucks (even though I'm only
> going to get reimbursed $1, but who really gives
> only a $1 tip for pizza delivery?)
>
> The bottom line is I just give this guy a $2.76
> tip for delivering a lousy pizza. My kids won't
> eat it. The dog, however, seems to like it. ;-)
>
> So I'm just mildly venting here, mostly to remind
> myself to NEVER do another pizza shop, no matter
> how much they beg.

I usually tip 18-20% at restaurants, because I know the servers only get $2.13 an hour.

Delivery drivers get mileage, but it's less than what it really costs to operate a vehicle. So I always tip at least $2.

pippama77: I don't understand tipping some hair stylists. Most stylists I know are self-employed. They pay to rent a booth at a salon and set their own prices. After expenses, they keep all their money. Why should I tip a self-employed stylist?

One friend of mine who charges $120 for a hair coloring, haircut, and style said customers should tip a minimum of $25 on top of that! That's over 20%!

If the self-employed don't like what they are making, they should raise their fees and not expect a tip.

NOTE: I'm not on the forum every day. If someone comments on my post, I might not reply right away. I've been a shopper since 1991. I've never done any work for a MS company in any other capacity.

My daughter is graduating from high school in two weeks and actually got into college. She does not know how to make change even though I tried to teach her--which of course, since it was me, she didn't pay attention to. She can barely add or subtract without a calculator. I tried to teach her math with flash cards and other methods, but it didn't work. And I think most of her friends are in the same position. She likes to blame her elementary school for not teaching her. It should be interesting to see if she makes it through her first semester of college!

Also--many, many years ago, I drove a taxi. We also lived on the tips. After paying for the taxi rental and the gas, sometimes the only profit we made was tips. It did seem as though the poorer people tipped better than the rich. Once the NBA had the all star game here, and those guys were wearing fur coats and didn't tip at all.

Not everyone is a "math" person. That doesn't mean they can't be absolutely brilliant in something else.

DanceMom Wrote:
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> My daughter is graduating from high school in two
> weeks and actually got into college. She does not
> know how to make change even though I tried to
> teach her--which of course, since it was me, she
> didn't pay attention to. She can barely add or
> subtract without a calculator. I tried to teach
> her math with flash cards and other methods, but
> it didn't work. And I think most of her friends
> are in the same position. She likes to blame her
> elementary school for not teaching her. It should
> be interesting to see if she makes it through her
> first semester of college!
>
> Also--many, many years ago, I drove a taxi. We
> also lived on the tips. After paying for the taxi
> rental and the gas, sometimes the only profit we
> made was tips. It did seem as though the poorer
> people tipped better than the rich. Once the NBA
> had the all star game here, and those guys were
> wearing fur coats and didn't tip at all.

I just think it's wrong for someone to 'assume' it's ok to keep our money. If someone did that to me, I would ask for my money and give nothing in a tip.

James Bond 007.5 Wrote:
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> I was a bellhop in college. During the tourist
> season, I could make $200-250 on a good day in
> tips. In a week, I could make enough to pay my
> college tuition and books for a year--granted,
> this was back in the late 70's.

I have to admit that I tend to try to carry my own bags (when not shopping) so that I don't have to tip, but, as with everything else, if I do decide that I want the service, part of that is planning to tip.

I tip 10-20%... 20 is exceptional and 10 is poor... i usually tip pizza deliveries a dollar because the delivery fee is 2-3$ i tip well for cab drivers because most of them if not poor seem poor by there dress... as to math most of my friends in college were accepted in unable to do all but the most basic math and most including myself could not write welk at all. i think math has gone the way of the dinosaur due to video games... most board games require some form of basic arithmetic while video games rarly do... as of today a grades are the average in college 43% of grades in college are a's as compared with 18% in the 80s. in other words the girl will do just fine... untl she has to pay her loans..

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