what would you do with this email?

Whoa! All of those responses were *NOT* there when I typed that post of mine right up there. OK then. Carry on. smiling smiley

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No need. I get it. I apologize to jlleighton for temporarily diverting this thread.

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I wish that "duh" would leave our language. It always makes me think that someone is being compared with a person who is born without very high intelligence, and therefore has no control over it, and it also puts down the person spoken to (unless self). It would be so much better if a polite response was given.
What would be a better way to put someone down? Because we ain't stoppingsmiling smiley

Equal rights for others does not mean fewer rights for you. It's not pie.
"I prefer someone who burns the flag and then wraps themselves up in the Constitution over someone who burns the Constitution and then wraps themselves up in the flag." -Molly Ivins
Never try to teach a pig to sing. It's a waste of your time and it really annoys the pig.
In most instances, stopping can be a very good thing.

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I intend to live forever. So far, so good.
Thank you all for the advice. Like I said, my first instinct was to send a note to the salesperson setting them straight. But I know that's not the wisest action, so that choice got nixed. :-) I'm still kind of torn between forwarding the note to the shopping company and just letting the whole thing go. I hate being the one to get someone in trouble, but it's also hard to keep quiet when someone comes at you like that! :-)
I've had a few emails but nothing like yours. I would not contact him. It's not up to you. The MSC and client might be interested in the email you received.

I wonder if he would get the boot. He was very unprofessional and I bet he'll regret sending you that email.
Sandra Sue Wrote:
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> I wish that "duh" would leave our language. It
> always makes me think that someone is being
> compared with a person who is born without very
> high intelligence, and therefore has no control
> over it, and it also puts down the person spoken
> to (unless self). It would be so much better if a
> polite response was given.


Lighten up! It was a joke. I have know doubt that stilllearning has much more brain power than I do.

My idea of an agreeable person is a person who agrees with me.
Benjamin Disraeli
jlleighton -

Forward it to the MSC. The client is paying to have the SA evaluated. The client would certainly want to know about the email. You are not getting anyone in trouble, and additional training sounds like it would be beneficial to the SA. By forwarding the email you are adding value to your report to the good of the MSC, client, perhaps SA, and potentially to you for going the extra mile for the MSC.
Saying "duh" is not a joke. It's not funny. I have never ever seen anyone laugh over it unless they are laughing at themselves. The recipient often has an facial expression of being picked on. It is not the recipient's brain power at issue, anyway, as saying "duh" is a dominance game. What if the recipient has a family member who was picked on as a child because of having a birth defect of the kind mentioned? There are other ways to make jokes.

What was it Dale Carnegie said? I think Dale was the one who wrote the book about "How to Win Friends and Influence People"? He said to never make a joke at anyone's expense. You never know when it will backfire.
What birth defect? It was just some teasing between forum members. I've never heard it in any other context.

Equal rights for others does not mean fewer rights for you. It's not pie.
"I prefer someone who burns the flag and then wraps themselves up in the Constitution over someone who burns the Constitution and then wraps themselves up in the flag." -Molly Ivins
Never try to teach a pig to sing. It's a waste of your time and it really annoys the pig.
I know an alternative to "Well, duh." The best employee I ever had would say this whenever I said something stupid: "Well, sh!t for brains!" I'm not sure that's better, but it's different and I knew exactly what he meant.

Mary Davis Nowell. Based close to Fort Worth. Shopping Interstate 20 east and west, Interstate 35 north and south.
LIJake Wrote:
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> Maybe he meant Mississippi, the school.


Evil. Evil. Boooo. Those people are not mentioned around me.

There are reasons that a body stays in motion
At the moment only demons come to mind
I vote we all give up "duh" and use "sh-t for brains" from now on!

Equal rights for others does not mean fewer rights for you. It's not pie.
"I prefer someone who burns the flag and then wraps themselves up in the Constitution over someone who burns the Constitution and then wraps themselves up in the flag." -Molly Ivins
Never try to teach a pig to sing. It's a waste of your time and it really annoys the pig.
I never call anybody that, it's reserved for an ex of mine.

There are reasons that a body stays in motion
At the moment only demons come to mind
Actually I have said, "Well, duh!" to myself when I have lost something around the house and then found it...

I would not directly say to someone's face: "Well duh, don't you get it Einstein?"

I think I take "well, duh" as "well, dummy" and would direct to myself, only myself, by me smiling smiley
Mostly I say, "No sh-t, Sherlock."

Equal rights for others does not mean fewer rights for you. It's not pie.
"I prefer someone who burns the flag and then wraps themselves up in the Constitution over someone who burns the Constitution and then wraps themselves up in the flag." -Molly Ivins
Never try to teach a pig to sing. It's a waste of your time and it really annoys the pig.
I say "duh" to myself all the time. I find I have a lot of "duh" moments. What can I say, I was born blonde, although now it's Clairol......
Oh, no, AustinMom! Now you are really getting on my nerves! lol. Blonde jokes are racist and sexist at the same time!

I was in a business today that had all sorts of posters on the wall mentioning various employment laws. One of them was about sexual harassment. Can a person harass her own gender/race? Yes. My interpretation and I'm sticking with it.
I am blonde, Sandra Sue, both by birth and now by choice. If I choose to state that I am blonde, I shall do so at every opportunity. I also know blonde males. I also know persons of races other than Caucasian who are blonde. Blonde jokes IMHO are neither racist nor sexist. If you really believe that, I respect your interpretation but totally disagree and plan to continue to announce that I am blonde whenever the mood strikes me.
SunnyDays2 Wrote:
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> I would not directly say to someone's face: "Well
> duh, don't you get it Einstein?"


I would (and have) to someone I know and am comfortable with. And, we (whoever the other half of the 'we' in question is) always both laugh. I've had people say it to me, too, and I always laugh at it too. In fact, it was a very common thing my brother/sister/cousins would use with each other during the time we grew up. My 9-years-older sister just said it in reference to me the other day, and we both laughed over it.

It's not *that* difficult to discern intent behind a comment, really. smiling smiley

But I think I do like the "No sh!t, Sherlock" better. winking smiley

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How bout, "Somewhere a village is missing their idiot."

Equal rights for others does not mean fewer rights for you. It's not pie.
"I prefer someone who burns the flag and then wraps themselves up in the Constitution over someone who burns the Constitution and then wraps themselves up in the flag." -Molly Ivins
Never try to teach a pig to sing. It's a waste of your time and it really annoys the pig.
I don't think I misinterpreted your comment, did I, AustinMom? I grew up a blonde child and I do know blond males--relatives. It is the intent behind the comment--and the repetition--that will soon backfire on all of us. It may not be your own intent, but it does serve that purpose when used. That is not being overly sensitive. It is thinking through actions. As a natural blonde, I just don't see that using bottle blondes as an excuse that it is not racist to associate being blonde with not making good decisions (which is where that came from) to be very pertinent.
I don't know whether you misinterpreted my comment or not, Sandra Sue. I think this is getting a little silly. I respect your opinion, although I think you are reaching for things to be offended about. I certainly don't want to offend you but neither will I change how I think or speak. I will never call you blonde if it offends you. Nor do I usually comment on the blondeness (or the brunette-ness, for that matter) of others. I will only call myself blonde - which I am - born and raised, all my life.
But it's much more fun to just make fun of yourself. Really.

I'm fat, now-gimpy, used-to-be-natural blonde (somehow it's darkened over the years) and I joke about all of those things. Why get all bent out of shape over who you are? I just accept it.

So the car rides lower on my side. Or when I go to the liquor store (we have special state-licensed establishments for liquor in Oregon) the way I walk ~ they think twice before selling to me. I'm practicing human origami, what with being stuck bent both forwards and to the right. Or I make the goofiest most obvious wrong choices or statements sometimes. I just laugh at it instead of getting all offended over it. smiling smiley

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Poking fun at newbies might be rude. We've all been poking fun at ourselves and long time members who can handle the abuse. The alternative is to make bgriffin the butt of every joke. Now that I think about, that's not such a bad ideawinking smiley

Like Storm, I grew up with brothers and all these years later we still joke the same way, trying to outdo each other with more clever ways to say, "Hey dumbass." My 20 something niece has followed suit and my 13 year old nephew is learning at the feet of the master.

Equal rights for others does not mean fewer rights for you. It's not pie.
"I prefer someone who burns the flag and then wraps themselves up in the Constitution over someone who burns the Constitution and then wraps themselves up in the flag." -Molly Ivins
Never try to teach a pig to sing. It's a waste of your time and it really annoys the pig.
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