Going to the bar after dinner

I got an e-mail today which was for a dinner/bar shop which stated you must go to bar and order an alcoholic beverage but only AFTER you've had dinner. It states the only time you're allowed to do the bar portion first is if the dining room can't seat you right away for dinner. I'm not sure about anyone else but usually once I've eaten dinner I have no desire for an alcoholic beverage.

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Really? Eat lighter than you usually do and order a drink that is known as an after dinner drink.
I understand what you're saying but since the reimbursement is 90% of the pay I want to enjoy the evening.
Most of the fine dining I do say similar but if you arrive 20 minutes or so before your reservation time AND "are waiting for your guest to arrive" it is generally okay to wait in the bar after checking in with the host stand. I just send my guest on a short walk around the block while I go inside so I have a good reason not to take my reservation early if there is a table ready early.
Consider something that isn't a 'normal' alcoholic drink for you perhaps like an Irish Coffee or hot chocolate with Rumplemitz. Perhaps your guidelines allow your guest to order the alcohol while you drink something else.

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Well, at least it wasn't the latest I received... Go to the bar after the dinner and order a non-alcoholic drink! Sit at the bar for a non-alcoholic drink!?! After Dinner. Well I think it screams out "that's the mystery shopper!"
If you don't follow the Guidelines you won't get paid. It doesn't matter whether or not you drink. The high end restaurants that I have done give you the option before dinner or after. If you are shopping any of the restaurants that I think you are, read the Guidelines completely. Your scheduler is very helpful and will answer all of your questions. Even if you are shopping the same MSC, the Guidelines vary with each restaurant. They are very specific and detailed.
OMG. I was just going to post about this. I really wanted to do this shop, but when I asked the scheduler about this requirement, she said that shoppers had been outing themselves at the bar. I was all, Wha? Going to the bar before hand is the most natural thing. You're waiting for your guest.
In many of the high end places I go to the only time there is anyone at the bar is during happy hour if they have one. Often the bar seems to be mostly for making the drinks for the servers to bring to tables. In an empty bar after dinner I agree you would really stand out. If your restaurant has a lively bar scene they may not even know you just finished eating. I sure would not want to have to stop for any sort of drink after a good meal...just get on home and start my report.
I don't see anything odd about going to the bar after dinner. I've done it quite a few times. If you're done with dinner are just sitting around talking, trust me, the restaurant had much rather you go to the bar for drinks than kill the turnover for the night on that table.

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vlade5394 Wrote:
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> Consider something that isn't a 'normal' alcoholic
> drink for you perhaps like an Irish Coffee or hot
> chocolate with Rumplemitz. Perhaps your
> guidelines allow your guest to order the alcohol
> while you drink something else.

You have to order the drink but you do not have to drink it. You can give it to your partner and drink a shirloy temple or a bloody shame. (that is a bloody mary without the booze.) I do it all the time.
Some restaurants will offer to buy you a drink at the bar if they really need the table. They don't want you to leave, just to make room for more guests.

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See to me that's a problem. The pay on this shop is basically two reimbursements, one for the dinner and one for the bar. If I were compelled to go to the bar after I ate plus had to write a report on the bar experience then only get my own money back that's where I'm coming from.



Piled Hip Deep, PHD Wrote:
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> vlade5394 Wrote:
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> > Consider something that isn't a 'normal'
> alcoholic
> > drink for you perhaps like an Irish Coffee or
> hot
> > chocolate with Rumplemitz. Perhaps your
> > guidelines allow your guest to order the
> alcohol
> > while you drink something else.
>
> You have to order the drink but you do not have to
> drink it. You can give it to your partner and
> drink a shirloy temple or a bloody shame. (that
> is a bloody mary without the booze.) I do it all
> the time.
pjaugustine Wrote:
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> Well, at least it wasn't the latest I received...
> Go to the bar after the dinner and order a
> non-alcoholic drink! Sit at the bar for a
> non-alcoholic drink!?! After Dinner. Well I think
> it screams out "that's the mystery shopper!"

I have gone to the bar for coffee or hot tea after dinner. I don't see anything wrong with it, as long as I did not order coffee or tea with dinner. Been there, done it.

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Hmmm I eat dinner then head to the bar
when I'm away all the time. It's better
to drink on a full stomach anyway.
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I'm with the OP. After all of the observations in a dinner shop, I just want to get out of there. I have actually met friends I haven't seen for a long time, and we sit at the bar before dinner because we have so much to catch up on and don't want to hog the table. So the whole "outs you as a shopper" thing is ridiculous. And some say don't ask too many questions about the menu like, "what do you recommend?" Anyway, I always go in first, 20 or 30 minutes before my guest. I honestly think I wouldn't take a shop if the bar was at the end. First of all, good luck getting a seat.

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Very true but then we wouldn't had this thread and discussing these things are what's this board is about. BTW the way I wonder WHY the msc or client wants the bar specifically evaluated after dinner. There's usually a reason behind these things.


charlotte68 Wrote:
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> Simply don't take the shop..
pjaugustine Wrote:
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> Well, at least it wasn't the latest I received...
> Go to the bar after the dinner and order a
> non-alcoholic drink! Sit at the bar for a
> non-alcoholic drink!?! After Dinner. Well I think
> it screams out "that's the mystery shopper!"

Not necessarily. Alcoholics can not or should not be drinking. Designated drivers should not be drinking. I think that is being responsible and should not flag you as a MS'er. The DD excuse works great.

And I agree with bgriffin that I have been on dates or with groups of friends when we are not ready to end the evening yet so we move it to the bar. The servers appreciate it for turnover purposes or at the end of the night, cleaning/closing duties.

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