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For all of the new people, please do not ask who shops what. I take the ICA seriously. Thank you.

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@gypsymonkey: Gypsy, I am still scarred by a thread very similar to this, when I was relatively new. Please remember back to when you were new and reached out or were tempted to reach out to someone.

Instead of creating a thread, it would have been kinder if you had simply PM'd the "new people" back and gently explained why you were unable to help them.

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I intend to live forever. So far, so good.

I'm on Gypsy's side on this. I suggest new people do a little research instead of trying to take a shortcut. This is a business and not a social forum and should be treated as such, in my opinion.

I didn't know it wasn't social! Its the equivalent of laughing around the water cooler.

Perhaps you are right Horsefeathers but I have gotten some pretty good info and advice.

I think its both. Its not just business here for me when I get to laugh about porn in gas stations and clerks so dumb they demand to know what toppings one wants on a plain cheese pizza.

Same here @HorseFeathers. I enjoy threads that are not only knowledge-rich but laughter-enhanced. When positive posters turn a thread going downhill (because of trolls or trouble baiters or fight instigator) into something fun and entertaining, I am completely amazed. Bring them in!

When I find humour in something I did that actually irritated me to no end, through the posting of another mystery shopper, I know we are in this thing together.

I do not have to answer every post. If I don't want to answer, I don't post. If I want to explain why, I could but not in a manner that will alienate the new poster.

"So it's sorta social, demented and sad, but social. Right?" - John Bender

OMG Sybil. That is the perfect quote. I love that movie.

There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data.

I don't care if someone is new. It's not an excuse to ask. I didn't. I was smart enough to read through posts and learned before I dove in. Frankly, I am completely annoyed by it because you clearly sign the ICA to be a shopper so you know that MSC should not be shared.

If these type of threads scar you, I hate to say it but you are going to get much more scarred along the mystery shopping journey.

I hope I didn't ask that question when I was new, but I might have. A person might find this forum before they ever signed up with a company and not know about the ICA

I learned it isn't good to go through life expecting people to be as smart as I am. It only leads to disappointment. Better to treat everyone as a kindly dufus and get on with it.

Yes it is against forum rules and ICA to ask, but as was pointed out, they may not know that at first and you don't have to take a rude tone about it either, which is probably what was meant by "being scarred." What is also a forum rule is to be respectful to all forum members, which is forgotten from time to time.

Kim

@kimmiemae: "Scarred" because the thread would not die and went on into eternity. Well, actually I believe it was two or three weeks, but, to me, in all of my guilty shame, it felt like forever.

Every morning I would decide I wasn’t going to return to the forum…..ever……but eventually I would steel myself and log on. Each day I watched in horror as more and more people piled on, rallying against the want-something-for-nothing, ICA-breaking loser (me). A mob mentality took hold and I could practically hear them chanting........

(heart)

PS
Lesson learned, by the way.

I intend to live forever. So far, so good.

@stilllearning wrote:

@kimmiemae: "Scarred" because the thread would not die and went on into eternity. Well, actually I believe it was two or three weeks, but, to me, in all of my guilty shame, it felt like forever.

Every morning I would decide I wasn’t going to return to the forum…..ever……but eventually I would steel myself and log on. Each day I watched in horror as more and more people piled on, rallying against the want-something-for-nothing, ICA-breaking loser (me). A mob mentality took hold and I could practically hear them chanting........

(heart)

PS
Lesson learned, by the way.

I think that is kind of sad. I'm fairly new but I ignore those threads because I know plenty of people are going to tell them without me adding to it. I don't know why it's an either/or. Maybe someone could tell them kindly and then we could all move on.
Of course, human nature being what it is, that isn't likely to happen. It's a feature of forums of all kinds that I dislike.

That's horrible. I've been in that situation and your description makes me feel bad. It like what a gracious person does when someone makes a faux pas at a party or the rude boor who points it out to everyone and whispers through the crowd while everyone's eyes turn to the see the gaffe maker.

That also goes for PM. I have a box full with the excuse well I did not ask ON the board!

Maybe for people that haven't reached, say, 50 posts, every time they go to post a pop-up box appears asking if they understand this one very important rule. Click to accept, like Apple terms and conditions.

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Seriously, nobody cares that you're offended.

Continuing to post although returning within hours to delete all the text of more than 50% of all posts is annoying and disruptive behavior. Although many have commented on the behavior, it continues. Posters who persist in doing this should be handled in the manner Jacob requested that we handle disruptive behavior: report it to the moderator. If enough people report a problem, it will be handled.

@CoffeeQueen wrote:

@stilllearning wrote:

@kimmiemae: "Scarred" because the thread would not die and went on into eternity. Well, actually I believe it was two or three weeks, but, to me, in all of my guilty shame, it felt like forever.

Every morning I would decide I wasn’t going to return to the forum…..ever……but eventually I would steel myself and log on. Each day I watched in horror as more and more people piled on, rallying against the want-something-for-nothing, ICA-breaking loser (me). A mob mentality took hold and I could practically hear them chanting........

(heart)

PS
Lesson learned, by the way.

I think that is kind of sad. I'm fairly new but I ignore those threads because I know plenty of people are going to tell them without me adding to it. I don't know why it's an either/or. Maybe someone could tell them kindly and then we could all move on.
Of course, human nature being what it is, that isn't likely to happen. It's a feature of forums of all kinds that I dislike.

Funny, that was how I felt when I was new in this Forum. Noticed I have not posted as much as some posters who came later? And I did not even ask about anything that would violate ICA or the Forum rules. Only when the Toggle came did I feel comfortable about posting again. I am so glad some 'instigators' have disappeared or perhaps came under new IDs. (There is a certain similarity in posting.) But I am no longer scared, but definitely "scarred."

I don't think this thread or gypsy's attitude was out of line. Someone mentioned a new member might not know what the ICA says. Since it is a contract, what business do they have signing without reading it first? And since one of the key skills of a mystery shopper is observation maybe they should notice the Posting Guidelines that appear just below the box where they are writing their post.

Equal rights for others does not mean fewer rights for you. It's not pie.
"I prefer someone who burns the flag and then wraps themselves up in the Constitution over someone who burns the Constitution and then wraps themselves up in the flag." -Molly Ivins
Never try to teach a pig to sing. It's a waste of your time and it really annoys the pig.

Oh, just toggle her. Why are your wasting time and energy being bothered by it and reporting it? If you toggle her, you won't see what she wrote and won't see that she deleted it so it will be all the same as if she had never posted in the first place.

There's no rule that says we can't retract what we said. So why is it bugging people so much they are compelled to comment on it? It's none of our business why she did it, and perfectly within her rights to do so. Toggle toggle toggle and the problem is solved.

I think I'll start toggling the people who think they need to talk about it.

(Maybe you don't realize that talking about it is like feeding a troll? Ignore the behaviors that bother you and maybe they'll stop on their own.)

Time to build a bigger bridge.

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/17/2015 01:50AM by dspeakes.

The PM I received read to me like a form letter and that is why I posted a broad message on the forum. I did not mean to offend anyone or start a war. I am waving the white flag over here.
We all make mistakes and I am just as guilty as the next person. I apologize if I ruffled any feathers.

Just lost trying to find a fire pit in a concrete jungle wishing it was a wooded glen...

if it wasn't for bad luck, I would have no luck at all

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