I did take pictures of the issues. That was the whole thing!@BuffaloNY101 wrote:
Although you didn't need overall pictures because there were issues I would assume that you should have taken pictures of the issues. I know its a little extra work but with the upfront cost I would have taken pictures just in case.
@Roxie wrote:
I think I know which company you mean, and I had a similar experience. Among the 40+ pictures I was to submit, I was supposed to submit a picture of X. I submitted a picture of X. Then, I was chastised for not having more than one picture of X. I feel your pain.
I'm still getting a feel for the MSC so I don't want to burn bridges with them just yet. I've found this forum isn't all that anonymous and schedulers and editors have emailed me about things I've posted here before... but I will say it's a company known for high-end hotel shops, and it's not Coyle (Coyle's editors will admit when they've got their own instructions wrong, at least)@parkcitybrian wrote:
Since you didn't disclose the name of the MSC's client it's ok to name the MSC. Give it up !!!!
@Misanthrope wrote:
I did take pictures of the issues. That was the whole thing!@BuffaloNY101 wrote:
Although you didn't need overall pictures because there were issues I would assume that you should have taken pictures of the issues. I know its a little extra work but with the upfront cost I would have taken pictures just in case.
@Roxie wrote:
I think I know which company you mean, and I had a similar experience. Among the 40+ pictures I was to submit, I was supposed to submit a picture of X. I submitted a picture of X. Then, I was chastised for not having more than one picture of X. I feel your pain.
Yeah they were also getting on me for not having more than one picture of X which wasn't covered in the instructions, but they were a bit nicer about that and I can at least understand their logic with wanting more pictures. They just don't seem to understand that I can't magically make pictures appear when I don't have them. It's odd but I think this MSC has some kind of aversion to editing their own instructions to apply to a shop.
I'm still getting a feel for the MSC so I don't want to burn bridges with them just yet. I've found this forum isn't all that anonymous and schedulers and editors have emailed me about things I've posted here before... but I will say it's a company known for high-end hotel shops, and it's not Coyle (Coyle's editors will admit when they've got their own instructions wrong, at least)@parkcitybrian wrote:
Since you didn't disclose the name of the MSC's client it's ok to name the MSC. Give it up !!!!
@parkcitybrian wrote:
I verrrry strongly disagree...you've started a threat by being very critical of a MSC and allegedly made some disparaging remarks about them without specifics (other than your own account) and doesn't give the MSC the opportunity (if they read this and if they choose) to respond to your allegations. And it calls into question your accountability and credibility. Not only that but you aren't giving the rest of us fair warning about an MSC that we might not want to associate with. Hiding behind the cloak of anonymity (by not naming the MSC) in my opinion is cowardly. Just sayin'
@Jay C wrote:
@parkcitybrian wrote:
I verrrry strongly disagree...you've started a threat by being very critical of a MSC and allegedly made some disparaging remarks about them without specifics (other than your own account) and doesn't give the MSC the opportunity (if they read this and if they choose) to respond to your allegations. And it calls into question your accountability and credibility. Not only that but you aren't giving the rest of us fair warning about an MSC that we might not want to associate with. Hiding behind the cloak of anonymity (by not naming the MSC) in my opinion is cowardly. Just sayin'
He seems to feel his anonymity protects him and allows him to say what he wants without risk that the company will identify him. I actually think he has provided enough information for a scheduler or editor to recognize the issue if they choose to identify him.
As Misanthrope said in a previous discussion of anonymity:
"You've never heard of the Greater Internet F(edited)d Theory, have you? Anonymity emboldens all, and humanity is not at its best when it is at its boldest.
Mod note: edited to remove obscenity "
I copied the post along with the moderator's note when he removed the obscenity.
@SteveSoCal wrote:
I also see this as Misanthrope just venting to fellow shoppers. If this is a MSC that specialized in upscale hotels, it's from a limited group and doesn't really warrant a fair warning to shoppers IMHO, since they probably have a ton of shoppers knocking on their virtual door. Having an MSC respond to allegations like this in the past has not really worked out well for anyone, either.
This post should be more of an overall note to any MSC staff reading here that their editorial guidelines need to match up with instructions.
I'm giving all parties involved the common courtesy of not naming names.@Jay C wrote:
@parkcitybrian wrote:
I verrrry strongly disagree...you've started a threat by being very critical of a MSC and allegedly made some disparaging remarks about them without specifics (other than your own account) and doesn't give the MSC the opportunity (if they read this and if they choose) to respond to your allegations. And it calls into question your accountability and credibility. Not only that but you aren't giving the rest of us fair warning about an MSC that we might not want to associate with. Hiding behind the cloak of anonymity (by not naming the MSC) in my opinion is cowardly. Just sayin'
He seems to feel his anonymity protects him and allows him to say what he wants without risk that the company will identify him. I actually think he has provided enough information for a scheduler or editor to recognize the issue if they choose to identify him.
As Misanthrope said in a previous discussion of anonymity:
"You've never heard of the Greater Internet F(edited)d Theory, have you? Anonymity emboldens all, and humanity is not at its best when it is at its boldest.
Mod note: edited to remove obscenity "
I copied the post along with the moderator's note when he removed the obscenity.
@parkcitybrian wrote:
I have never been blacklisted or dropped or discriminated against in any way-shape-or-form by voicing my displeasure at either an MSC and/or scheduler or editor because of my criticisms. They have been constructive ones and MSCs have actually dropped schedulers and editors because of being made aware of their issues with me/us.
@SoCalMama wrote:
I just want to know which MSC wants the extra photos. Pretty simple. Otherwise, it's kind if a wasted thread.
Wish I could say the same. I got threatened with deactivation by ACL because I complained about one of their shops that, frankly, was both unethical and put the shopper in a dangerous position.@SteveSoCal wrote:
I think shoppers have the right to not name names if they wish, just as MSC staff have the right to post without specifically adding a signature identifying themselves. Some like to see it but it's not a requirement.
That said, I'm in complete agreements with Brian on his post...
@parkcitybrian wrote:
I have never been blacklisted or dropped or discriminated against in any way-shape-or-form by voicing my displeasure at either an MSC and/or scheduler or editor because of my criticisms. They have been constructive ones and MSCs have actually dropped schedulers and editors because of being made aware of their issues with me/us.
My identity is no secret to any of the MSCs I work for, and have have lodged many complaints and/or criticisms over the years. Sometimes have a received an email, thanking me for the input and balanced opinion. If anything, it has improved my relationship with some MSCs.
Finkle is Einhorn?@MSNinja wrote:
bgriffin is asskisser,
@MSNinja wrote:
bgriffin is asskisser,
@MSNinja wrote:
bgriffin is asskisser,