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I have started Mystery shopping again since May and I have a couple of questions

# 1- When XXX mystery shop company sends out a e-mail saying that AAA restaurant is available in you area does XXX MSC make up the blank report with the require information that we need to fill out or does the AAA restaurant send the blank report to XXX msc and then MSC sends it to us?

# 2- What happens if there is a shop that sits for 3- 4 weeks that doesn't get pick up? Then a couple of weeks later the shop becomes open again with different dates,

# 3- When shops are bonus who pays for the bonus? The MSC company, the client, or the scheduler who works for the MSC company.

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Ooooooooh fun questions!

1. The actual form is made by the MSC because they are the ones with access to the reporting platform. Who creates the content of the form is highly dependent on the client. I would guess it ranges anywhere from 95% client created to 5% client created. Some have a great understanding of what they want feedback on, others require more input.

2. That depends on the shop. The "due date" on most reporting platforms is not REALLY the due date. It's what the MSC is telling us is the due date so we will get in a hurry. OMG they need this shop done by the 8th I need to work it in now if I'm gonna get it. There is also an ACTUAL due date that the MSC has promised the completed shops to the client. If they have a shopping period of Nov 1 - 30 then the MSC will likely have an actual due date of Dec 3 or 4 to have all of the completed shops to the client. Yes it is much better if the actual shops are all done within the Nov 1-30 dates but I have had more than one scheduler say "oh those aren't due to the client until the 4th so if you can shop on the 1st it's ok we can still get it to them." When a shop shows back up again a few weeks later then it is most likely into a new shopping period (unless someone picked it up early in a shopping period and then flaked). Back to the hurry up tactic by the MSC. They like this for 2 reasons. The more shops they get done early in the shopping period the less they have to worry about getting all the shops done. If they 100 shops to do for a client and 80 are done in the first week then they're like heck yeah only 20 to worry about in 20 days this is EASY. The other reason they like that is it gives them a better idea of how much they have to spend on those difficult to fill locations, which leads us to..........

3. That entirely depends on the pay structure for the shop. I would say VERY rarely would a client sign a contract with the MSC that would require them to pay bonuses if the MSC was having problem filling a shop. If they did then that MSC is fantastic at negotiating and that client is not. So I would say 999 times out of 1000 it would not be the client. If the scheduler is an actual employee of the company then almost assuredly the bonus is coming from the MSC. Notice the difference between employee and IC. I am talking actual wage or salary employee. If the scheduler is an IC then sometimes it could come from a scheduler but still more often than not it would be from the MSC. Let's say Great MSC gets the Griffin's Widgets contract. Taking out their fixed costs and knowing how much editing and scheduling is going to cost them, they will have a budget of getting all of those shops done. Let's say there's 100 shops and they budget $2000, or $20 per shop. They'll probably get those first 80 easy ones done at $15, leaving $800 left over for those pesky last 20. At that point they know anything under $40 is profit for them unless they have a few at the end they have to pay more for. Normally that is coming from the MSC. Also those numbers are pulled out of thin air for demonstrating purposes and may or may not be remotely accurate to the Griffin's Widgets contract. Now SOMETIMES it will behoove a scheduler to pay you a bonus directly. For instance let's say the MSC with the Griffin's Widgets contract tells the scheduler if they get ALL the Widgets shopped this month for under $1500 they will split the leftover with them. Meaning a $250 bonus for the scheduler. Now let's say they get to $1450 and there is one little pain in the posterior shop left and you'll do it, but only for $75. Well that scheduler doesn't want to pay you $75 because that puts them at $1525 and now they get no bonus. So they give it to you for $50 and pay you $25 out of their own pocket so they net an extra $250.

Wow. I typed a lot. It reminds me of the time Stephen King accused himself of having diarrhea of the word processor.

Also I could be completely wrong but I don't think I am.

There are reasons that a body stays in motion
At the moment only demons come to mind
@bgriffin wrote:

Ooooooooh fun questions!

1. The actual form is made by the MSC because they are the ones with access to the reporting platform. Who creates the content of the form is highly dependent on the client. I would guess it ranges anywhere from 95% client created to 5% client created. Some have a great understanding of what they want feedback on, others require more input.

2. That depends on the shop. The "due date" on most reporting platforms is not REALLY the due date. It's what the MSC is telling us is the due date so we will get in a hurry. OMG they need this shop done by the 8th I need to work it in now if I'm gonna get it. There is also an ACTUAL due date that the MSC has promised the completed shops to the client. If they have a shopping period of Nov 1 - 30 then the MSC will likely have an actual due date of Dec 3 or 4 to have all of the completed shops to the client. Yes it is much better if the actual shops are all done within the Nov 1-30 dates but I have had more than one scheduler say "oh those aren't due to the client until the 4th so if you can shop on the 1st it's ok we can still get it to them." When a shop shows back up again a few weeks later then it is most likely into a new shopping period (unless someone picked it up early in a shopping period and then flaked). Back to the hurry up tactic by the MSC. They like this for 2 reasons. The more shops they get done early in the shopping period the less they have to worry about getting all the shops done. If they 100 shops to do for a client and 80 are done in the first week then they're like heck yeah only 20 to worry about in 20 days this is EASY. The other reason they like that is it gives them a better idea of how much they have to spend on those difficult to fill locations, which leads us to..........

3. That entirely depends on the pay structure for the shop. I would say VERY rarely would a client sign a contract with the MSC that would require them to pay bonuses if the MSC was having problem filling a shop. If they did then that MSC is fantastic at negotiating and that client is not. So I would say 999 times out of 1000 it would not be the client. If the scheduler is an actual employee of the company then almost assuredly the bonus is coming from the MSC. Notice the difference between employee and IC. I am talking actual wage or salary employee. If the scheduler is an IC then sometimes it could come from a scheduler but still more often than not it would be from the MSC. Let's say Great MSC gets the Griffin's Widgets contract. Taking out their fixed costs and knowing how much editing and scheduling is going to cost them, they will have a budget of getting all of those shops done. Let's say there's 100 shops and they budget $2000, or $20 per shop. They'll probably get those first 80 easy ones done at $15, leaving $800 left over for those pesky last 20. At that point they know anything under $40 is profit for them unless they have a few at the end they have to pay more for. Normally that is coming from the MSC. Also those numbers are pulled out of thin air for demonstrating purposes and may or may not be remotely accurate to the Griffin's Widgets contract. Now SOMETIMES it will behoove a scheduler to pay you a bonus directly. For instance let's say the MSC with the Griffin's Widgets contract tells the scheduler if they get ALL the Widgets shopped this month for under $1500 they will split the leftover with them. Meaning a $250 bonus for the scheduler. Now let's say they get to $1450 and there is one little pain in the posterior shop left and you'll do it, but only for $75. Well that scheduler doesn't want to pay you $75 because that puts them at $1525 and now they get no bonus. So they give it to you for $50 and pay you $25 out of their own pocket so they net an extra $250.

Wow. I typed a lot. It reminds me of the time Stephen King accused himself of having diarrhea of the word processor.

Also I could be completely wrong but I don't think I am.
Great Post! You Rock BGriffin! smiling smiley
I really do don't I? winking smiley

Thanks!

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At the moment only demons come to mind
I used to be an editor. Another reason the MSCs like to get shops submitted early is because if everyone waits until near the end of the month to submit their reports, it causes a strain on the editing staff and increases the chance that the deadline to the client might not be met on all of the shops.
Wow very informative posting! This will help most if not all of us schedule or shops much better. Thanks BG!
I used to be an editor as well. For that company, no one got paid for a shop if the client rejected it. The editor, scheduler, did not get paid. They could not sell it to the client, so they did not eat the cost of the editing and scheduling themselves. For whatever reason the client refused the report. No one got paid. We would stay up till midnight on the last day of the month making sure the reports got through and published to the client before the stoke of midnight.

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@kattyk wrote:

I used to be an editor as well. For that company, no one got paid for a shop if the client rejected it. The editor, scheduler, did not get paid.

Very interesting. I knew and understand that schedulers would not get paid (and people wonder why schedulers REALLY don't like to give people a second chance) but that surprises me about editors. They have no control over the process so they are completely at the mercy of both the scheduler and shopper.

There are reasons that a body stays in motion
At the moment only demons come to mind
Thanks BG and all that have reply

There was one shop that I did and I ask about it and I never got an reply. I must have done something wrong because I did not get pay for it.. I think I know what I did wrong but I am not 100 % sure..Since I didn't get pay for it, I guess they didn't either. I have move on and if I do this shop again I will know what to do smiling smiley

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/01/2015 05:15AM by Isaiah4031a.
Bgriffin
please refrain from naming the client and msp in the same post we now all know who got the new contract with griffin's widgets

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