I received a "9" due to grammar
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The one that bothers me the most is ... impact vs. affect ... To "impact" means to collide. To "affect" means to have influence upon. Here's an example ... I was impacted by the sermon. I was collided by the sermon. vs. I was affected by the sermon. I was influenced by the sermon.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/28/2016 05:29AM by supersavvymommy.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/28/2016 05:29AM by supersavvymommy.
@supersavvymommy wrote:
The one that bothers me the most is ... impact vs. affect ... To "impact" means to collide. To "affect" means to have influence upon. Here's an example ... I was impacted by the sermon. I was collided by the sermon. vs. I was affected by the sermon. I was influenced by the sermon.
Although I'd rather see that mistake than the "affect" vs. "effect" one!
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I've learned to never trust spell-check or my phone's auto-fill feature.
I've learned to never trust spell-check or my phone's auto-fill feature.
SSM, as long as we are not naming any clients, right? I just did my first shop for Coyle and I answered all of the comments with complete sentences. I received a 100%. I was just wondering if the next time I will run into the picky editor who only likes 3-5 words for comments and will not like it if I comment on every sentence in the form (each question had "requred" next to it so I assumed it meant a comment was required).
One of the definitions of impact is to have a strong effect on someone or something.
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@JASFLALMT wrote:
SSM, as long as we are not naming any clients, right? I just did my first shop for Coyle and I answered all of the comments with complete sentences. I received a 100%. I was just wondering if the next time I will run into the picky editor who only likes 3-5 words for comments and will not like it if I comment on every sentence in the form (each question had "requred" next to it so I assumed it meant a comment was required).
Hi JASFLALMT,
I was wondering how long did it take for Coyle to respond to your assignment request. What was you lead time before performing said assignment? Thanks for your help. I'm also going to put the question as a form post. I'm a new shopper and trying to understand their standard practice.
I was wondering how long did it take for Coyle to respond to your assignment request. What was you lead time before performing said assignment? Thanks for your help. I'm also going to put the question as a form post. I'm a new shopper and trying to understand their standard practice.
Ok, so this is somewhat on topic:
I am at the same time appalled and amused with the emails and the shop quidelines I get with goo-gobs of typos and grammatical errors.
I am at the same time appalled and amused with the emails and the shop quidelines I get with goo-gobs of typos and grammatical errors.
@desertfour wrote:
Ok, so this is somewhat on topic:
I am at the same time appalled and amused with the emails and the shop quidelines I get with goo-gobs of typos and grammatical errors.
That exact thing drives me crazy, and sometimes I get so disgusted with it I'm ready to quit mystery shopping. Because, in addition to the typos and blatant grammar errors (nobody at the MSCs seems to know how to make a plural possessive), the poor writing results in confusing, ambiguous, and contradictory guidelines.
I learn something new every day, but not everyday!
I've learned to never trust spell-check or my phone's auto-fill feature.
I've learned to never trust spell-check or my phone's auto-fill feature.
I have had a few amusing guidelines that had what the MSC called "sample of an exemplary report." I corrected all of the typos and errors and sent it back to them. They revised the guidelines a few days later with my corrections.
Sometimes even the survey questions have errors!
@desertfour wrote:
Sometimes even the survey questions have errors!
Ha, ha! You mean "often," don't you?
I learn something new every day, but not everyday!
I've learned to never trust spell-check or my phone's auto-fill feature.
I've learned to never trust spell-check or my phone's auto-fill feature.
I have a degree in Journalism and have received less than perfect scores because of perceived errors in grammar. I have asked for examples and I am ignored. I can only imagine it is a style issue, rather than a grammar one. It would be helpful to know *specifically* what the proofreader thinks the problem is. What is most disconcerting is when a proofreader edits for content and the client has no idea of my true experience.
My first year in college as a returning student (29 years old instead of 18) I had an English professor who used curse words throughout each lecture. He was 55 years old and it seemed as if he was trying to "reach" the younger students by speaking in this "cool" manner.
At the end of the semester we were given a survey about our classroom experience for each class/professor. I said that you would think that someone with a PhD in English would have a better command of the English language than to resort to curse words throughout each lecture. Not only was it offensive, but after a while it was predictable and boring.
At the end of the semester we were given a survey about our classroom experience for each class/professor. I said that you would think that someone with a PhD in English would have a better command of the English language than to resort to curse words throughout each lecture. Not only was it offensive, but after a while it was predictable and boring.
Recently, I had an editor comment on a grammar mistake, but when I reviewed my saved report (the PDF of the version I submitted), I could find no such instance of that error. I e-mailed and asked if she (or he) would let me know where this error was so that I would be sure not to make it again. I knew I hadn't made it, but I wanted to see if I'd get a response. I didn't. On top of that, this editor changed a correct plural possessive word in my report to an incorrect singular possessive. Along with a couple of other things that were correct to begin with, but incorrect after the editor changed them. It ticks me off.
I learn something new every day, but not everyday!
I've learned to never trust spell-check or my phone's auto-fill feature.
I've learned to never trust spell-check or my phone's auto-fill feature.
Which MSC? How did you access your edited report after you submitted it?
@BirdyC wrote:
Recently, I had an editor comment on a grammar mistake, but when I reviewed my saved report (the PDF of the version I submitted), I could find no such instance of that error. I e-mailed and asked if she (or he) would let me know where this error was so that I would be sure not to make it again. I knew I hadn't made it, but I wanted to see if I'd get a response. I didn't. On top of that, this editor changed a correct plural possessive word in my report to an incorrect singular possessive. Along with a couple of other things that were correct to begin with, but incorrect after the editor changed them. It ticks me off.
I saw the edited report when it was kicked back to me for another issue, which was my fault. And, on top of the grammatical issues, this editor asked me at least three times to add information to my narrative that was already in it. Grrr...
I learn something new every day, but not everyday!
I've learned to never trust spell-check or my phone's auto-fill feature.
I've learned to never trust spell-check or my phone's auto-fill feature.
sometimes i'm graded with a 9 for grammar, but they never actually tell me what the error was. my sentences may be too long or something. i'm not sure. if they ever ask me a redundant question (which is rare), i just answer it for them and tell them where it is already contained within the report.@BirdyC wrote:
Yes, sometimes editors can be too picky as far as how they want something worded, even if the grammar is perfect. Editors can be obsessive, and we sometimes think our way of wording something is better. But, if an editor corrects a spelling, grammar, or punctuation mistake, that's not being too picky. An error is an error. If a shopper is asked to comment on the dress department of a store, I don't want to read: "The woman's dress department was understaffed," or, The womens dress department was understaffed," etc. If I were editing a shopper's report, and there were more than one error like that, I'd take off points. I'd also explain, though, why I did. Everyone's allowed a typo or two, but if someone is consistently making the same or similar error, he or she needs to brush up on his or her grammar skills. It's not too much to expect of someone who is doing observations and writing reports for pay. Attention to detail pertains to both.
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Sometimes I want to just put in 'asked and answered' when they ask for the same thing in the surveys.
@jodojet wrote:
I have a degree in Journalism and have received less than perfect scores because of perceived errors in grammar. I have asked for examples and I am ignored. I can only imagine it is a style issue, rather than a grammar one. It would be helpful to know *specifically* what the proofreader thinks the problem is. What is most disconcerting is when a proofreader edits for content and the client has no idea of my true experience.
I have copy edited for several major newspapers, all of which employ degreed journalists. Having a degree does not make you immune to grammar mistakes; if it did, copy editors would be unnecessary.
And by the way, "journalism" is not a proper noun; it should not be capitalized. You also need a comma after "examples" in the second sentence.
Wow. Was that really necessary?
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/01/2016 04:02PM by desertfour.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, and one should never end a sentence with a preposition, etc. This is a relaxed forum. As long as there are only a few simple grammar, spelling, and punctuation errors that don't interfere with our ability to understand one another, no other forum member should be nitpicking.
I nit picked only because the poster suggested that he is incapable of grammar errors by virtue of his journalism degree. No one is immune to foolish errors or gaps in grammar knowledge, in my experience.
@JASFLALMT wrote:
Yeah, yeah, yeah, and one should never end a sentence with a preposition....
Which is, of course, one of the great misconceptions about grammar!
I learn something new every day, but not everyday!
I've learned to never trust spell-check or my phone's auto-fill feature.
I've learned to never trust spell-check or my phone's auto-fill feature.
And my brother always emails with...and then continues his thoughts...never can he use other punctuation...just endless...drives the rest of us batty...LOL
tb, I get what you mean, but just because the poster wrote with two typos doesn't mean he does It in his reports. I sometimes make errors in here but rarely on my reports, and nearly every poster in here has had experience with editors that counted off for errors when the shopper likely shouldn't have been been dinged.
Yes true birdy, it is an old school of thought about not ending sentences with prepositions and I rather like it
tb, I get what you mean, but just because the poster wrote with two typos doesn't mean he does It in his reports. I sometimes make errors in here but rarely on my reports, and nearly every poster in here has had experience with editors that counted off for errors when the shopper likely shouldn't have been been dinged.
Yes true birdy, it is an old school of thought about not ending sentences with prepositions and I rather like it
Oh and sometimes people use their phones to post in here (like I am right now). It's easy enough to make errors then. And lovely autocorrect can wreak havoc at times.
nitpicked ;-)@tbclay wrote:
I nit picked .
Now scheduling travel shops for the day after Christmas through mid-January.
Depends on if they were truly picking nits! gross
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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/02/2016 06:38AM by JASFLALMT.
@AShopper1971 wrote:
Hi JASFLALMT,
I was wondering how long did it take for Coyle to respond to your assignment request. What was you lead time before performing said assignment? Thanks for your help. I'm also going to put the question as a form post. I'm a new shopper and trying to understand their standard practice.
I'm sorry I missed this until now. I once had applied for a hotel shop as my first shop for them and my application sat for several months before I asked about it. They emailed back that I had to do some restaurant shops and/or phone shops for them first. My restaurant shop took about a week for them to assign after I applied.
@JASFLALMT wrote:
Yes true birdy, it is an old school of thought about not ending sentences with prepositions and I rather like it
But sometimes there's no other way to write a sentence and have it make sense! Not that one should make a habit of it, but it's really not a "rule," as many assume. Some people will waste time trying to avoid ending a sentence with a preposition when, in fact, the sentence is fine as is!
I learn something new every day, but not everyday!
I've learned to never trust spell-check or my phone's auto-fill feature.
I've learned to never trust spell-check or my phone's auto-fill feature.
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