Ya, I don't. That would be bad (not my first choice of adjectives) for those of us who didn't choose college for knowledge and life experience. I'm pretty smart, ran my own business for 15 yrs and retired before I was 40, but just don't have 'that' piece of paper.@Sybil2 wrote:
I wish all MSCs required a college degree. It would be a starting point for the weeding process.
@Arch Stanton wrote:
It is just typical of how overboard everybody is for requiring a college education and/or job experience when it is basically irrelevant. Employers don't want to bother training anybody anymore, laughed when I saw a newspaper ad for a dog bather which required experience. Same with bar tending jobs once you go to school for the certificate.
Question: How did the world go round and round before college became mandatory???
Only 30% of the population had a degree in the very early 1970's and somehow government and business somehow succeeded, and don't tell me the workplace has become so much more complex than previously...
@SteveSoCal wrote:
I'd be more concerned about the requirement for an additional year in in customer service.
Who goes to college to and then aspires to get a job in customer service?
@eveb wrote:
Ya, I don't. That would be bad (not my first choice of adjectives) for those of us who didn't choose college for knowledge and life experience. I'm pretty smart, ran my own business for 15 yrs and retired before I was 40, but just don't have 'that' piece of paper.@Sybil2 wrote:
I wish all MSCs required a college degree. It would be a starting point for the weeding process.
@SteveSoCal wrote:
I'd be more concerned about the requirement for an additional year in in customer service.
Who goes to college to and then aspires to get a job in customer service?
@myst4au wrote:
Would these people do mystery shopping?
@SteveSoCal wrote:
@myst4au wrote:
Would these people do mystery shopping?
From my personal experience, many people in hospitality/mystery shopping careers went to Cornell, and while the students are encouraged to mystery shop and or work in hospitality, they generally don't do it for an extended period, and focus almost entirely on hotels & restaurants.
I guess the point of the discussion regarding the request is, "What's this demographic?"
Are they looking for people who didn't live up to their aspirations ( @Tarantado, i noted that you said you "ended up" in customer service, not aspired to career in customer service) or people who are professionally and scholastically focused on customer service? The pay scale doesn't seem to fit the later group....
Perhaps there is a generational issue with the college experience vs. available jobs currently in the workplace. With my generation, a college education was an important part of career success, and while a degree is not required in my current occupation, almost everyone I work with has one.
@N-TownShopper wrote:
Totally with you on this. I chose not to get a degree. At the time I didn't know what I wanted to do with my life and felt it was a waste of money and time if I didn't have a dedicated career path. Fast forward to today: I haven't worked for anyone but myself for a few years now and am doing very well. No debt, no roommates, no struggling. I have smarts and business savvy. Meanwhile almost everyone else I know with a college degree in my age range is still living at home complaining about the economy because they can't get a job in whatever field they went to college for. It makes me wonder if people in my generation only went to college to avoid work rather than get work....
@SteveSoCal wrote:
I'd be more concerned about the requirement for an additional year in in customer service.
Who goes to college to and then aspires to get a job in customer service?
@CaliGirl925 wrote:
I worked in customer service jobs while I was in college. Does that count, you think?
@Shop-et-al wrote:
Eureka!
Perhaps it is done for the purpose of generating buzz... Consider this thread.
If the information in this thread is true, then some people need college degrees and others do not.
So, what do we need? Chutzpah? Emily Post? Opportunity?
@Tarantado wrote:
@N-TownShopper wrote:
It's not that simple... I graduated from college at the tail end of the recession. I basically had to grab what I could, then work all the way to where I'm at. I started off as underpaid and literally had to grind those next couple of years. Hell, even up to now, the field I'm in (oil & gas) is suffering yet again, leaving little to no room for newcomers to jump into this industry.
Tarantado, hats off to you for being willing to work your way to where you are. You are not the type of person I was referring to in my post. These people are sitting home with mom and dad complaining INSTEAD of working or working only enough to keep the 'rents from throwing them out. They are not working and complaining simultaneously. They seem to think they are entitled to a certain level of employment just because they have a degree. In reality, that's not the case anymore.
Like yourself, I worked any job I could. I graduated high school and immediately entered the corporate world of 9 to 5 in a cubicle. I gained experience and that experience is what kept me moving forward, not my education or lack thereof. The last 3 jobs I worked before leaving the office life for self employment were jobs that everyone else had gone to college to get. I did just as well as they did, sometimes even better. I was probably paid less due to my lack of education but oh well.
My point was that (with few exceptions of more specialized fields) I don't believe college gets you @#$%& these days. I think you can get much farther with intelligence, a strong work ethic, and experience. Either way, a degree definitely wouldn't weed out the bad shoppers like Sybil2 suggested.
It might weed out shoppers in lower income brackets since college is expensive. Maybe that's what the MSC was going for.