I'm taking a poll. Yea or nay: Will Shop2LiveinFL's head explode when she sees another Market Force thread?

LJ Wrote:
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> I'm taking a poll. Yea or nay: Will
> Shop2LiveinFL's head explode when she sees another
> Market Force thread?

There's a fine line between straying off subject which could be entertaining. However, starting a subject just to taunt or <kitty cat> a forum member crossed that line.



Edited per request from S2L.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/12/2014 03:19PM by cubbiecat.

I agree with Shop2Live that there are way too many posters starting way too many duplicate threads. I doubt her head will explode and I doubt she and I are the only ones irritated by the duplicate posts - Market Force posts are not the only duplicates. The mod has done a good job combining some of the duplicates but it's a lot of work. Too bad we have so many.

"Bully"? Really?!

Oh good *Lord*. The way the "bully" word gets thrown around lately ~ everywhere, all over all media, not just here ~ is *really* annoying. This was a bad joke at worst. Classifying it as "bullying" is making a mountain out of a molehill. Like guys who get caught taking a whiz behind a tree being classified as a "s-e-x offender". It really cheapens the meaning of something that shouldn't be cheapened.

This was just a silly idea that apparently seemed way funnier in the set-up than it was in the execution.

And yeah, people really should pay more attention to the duplicate thread stuff. But then some people, in an attempt to do so, look for an existing thread, find one that's actually a year or two old (at least when it started), post to that... and everyone @#$%& about bringing up such an old thread.

And some of the so-called duplicate threads, while they are similar, aren't *exactly* duplicate. They may be about the same MSC, for instance; but have different sub-topics. Like, one is about a particular job with the MSC, and another is about the payment process for that MSC, and another is about contact information for that MSC. Stuff like that. And actually, having *those* divisions is far better than having *everything* about a MSC all in one super-thread that you'd have to read the whole entire thing to find the specific sub-division of information you're after.

Also, since we're all @#$%& about stuff, there's some really excessive and unnecessary quoting that goes on, too.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/12/2014 11:31AM by StormCloud.

StormCloud Wrote:
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> Also, since we're all @#$%& about stuff,
> there's some really excessive and unnecessary
> quoting that goes on, too.

Really? LOL!

Back to the topic at hand. We had a current thread about Market Force and yet another specifically about MF and pizza shops. Within 36 hours two new threads were created, one of which was asking about their pizza shops......again. Only one even had Market Force in the subject line, wasting the time of anyone who had no interest reading about Market Force. And when we are talking about two threads that were among the top 10 of the first page, the excuse of not being able to find them doesn't fly. It is no more difficult, and no less likely to get you an answer, if you post on an existing thread. If a company is going to be discussed on the company forum, the name of the company should be in the subject line.

Ok, well here's my chance to ask a question about MarketForce, because I was going to start my own thread, but didn't want to add another if I didn't have to.

Will I get flagged, tsk-tsked, given a strike, etc. for having to re-schedule a shop to another day within the required time frame next week? I can do it on the day I selected, but it works just a wee bit better for me to do it the day before. Just wondering - I won't reschedule if there are any sort of repercussions or black mark put on my file.

I guess this could be a question in general for all MSC's but I'm wondering specifically about MF in this case.

Thanks!!

FIRST - *thank you* for posting to an existing thread and not starting a new one. We really don't need more than one current thread for a company IMHO.

MF allows for self-rescheduling using the reschedule tab and selecting one of their available alternate dates. As long as you post to one of the choices, you do NOT need to contact MF and it is not a negative. With other companies? Depends on the company and the circumstances.

Storm cloud, Really! When the op posted a msc name in the subject, but the post specifically targeted a forum member.

Targeted in a joking, fun way. That is not "bullying."

So, on topic-ish, has anyone seen the shoe shops posted this month? Alternatively, when was the last time you saw the shoe shop?

Or, off topic, we could post recipes. Anyone have any good 4th of July BBQ recipes?

The way the forum is set up is what causes the duplicate threads. Anyone can start a new thread on any company at any time, and the company name may or may not be used in the thread title. Unless there is a forum requirement for all posts about a company to be made to a common thread with a company name for a thread title, we will get all these duplicate posts. There are no guidelines to control it. Under these circumstances, it may be irritating to find duplicate threads running on the same day but we can hardly hold posters accountable when they are posting as allowed.

First of all, thanks to cubbiecat, AustinMom and LisaSTL for "standing up" for me while I was busy performing a hotel shop with a silver spoon in my mouth. Much better food than those MF FF shops and better pay, hotel reward points and credit card cash back.

Second, bullying is a strong and overused word. Taunting is a better word. But instead of perpetuating the debate, let's just all agree to drop it. OK?

And to the OP, so sorry to disappoint. I have no time for head exploding today or for the rest of the week. I am too busy working and traveling and making money. Maybe we can schedule a head exploding appointment for next month. What day is good for you?

MDavisnowell Wrote:
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> Under these circumstances, it may be
> irritating to find duplicate threads running on
> the same day but we can hardly hold posters
> accountable when they are posting as allowed.


But some posters, like Gypsy, purposefully create new multiple threads about the same MSC (MarketForce) and the same shop (pizza) within a day or two of each other. And before everyone gets their panties and leather underwear in a wad, I am only mentioning GM because he/she was the most recent offender.

If the OP wanted to start a thread with subject about duplicate posting, use "Too many duplicate posts," which would be a good subject for discussion.

If the OP wanted to joke, then continued on the existing post where the exploding head comment was originally posted.

The OP started a new thread with simply "Market Force." The intent appeared to want us to click on Market Force thinking it is ABOUT some aspect of Market Force. However, it appears he is asking forum members take side against another forum member. That's taunting and maybe bullying is too strong a word, but it can easily escalate to that.

Peace out...

Shop2LiveinFL Wrote:
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> But some posters, like Gypsy, purposefully create new multiple threads about the same MSC
> (MarketForce) and the same shop (pizza) within a day or two of each other. And before everyone gets their panties and leather underwear in a wad, I am only mentioning GM because he/she was themost recent offender.

Gypsy's posts are a good example of purposefully creating duplicate posts, because her recent MF duplicate posts were not the first duplicate posts she had made; for example, on 4/20 she started a thread "very bad Easter" to say her dog was stolen .... and 24 hours later she started another thread "she is found" to say the dog had been located. In order to understand her second post, other members had to click on her name and research her previous posts.

There are certainly no rules against ridiculously making duplicate posts although deliberately doing so seems disrespectful. However, making fun of a poster for complaining about ridiculous double-posting is also ridiculous.

As a relatively new person to this forum, I would like to add my 2 cents. Perhaps new threads are being started because an OP can't find a thread in the search. Before you gasp, Please Wait... Perhaps an OP doesn't know that they should look for another post. I have tried to find information by searching, even searching by suggestions given, and I can't always find what I was looking for. Perhaps the assumption should be that lack of knowledge about using the forum is the problem, not lack of consideration to readers.

I'm still trying to figure out how posters are making comments on things that I simply do not see in previous posts. As an example, a couple people referred to "bullying", as though a previous poster mentioned that. I did not see any previous post where someone used "bully" prior to Tlt14's comment ...

I didn't take to much exception to yet another thread about the same company, because I have had to get over the fact that people can't do a little scrolling to see it one has already been started or to use the search function. Seems simple (and courteous) to me but I guess not to others.
The first thing that jumped, well really SCREAMED, out to me is the use of all caps. Was THAT really necessary?

edited to add: And why start one just to 'poke' at another forum member? I get poking fun when the the thread goes off topic, there are some great reads!, but, for me this one fell flat.

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/12/2014 04:03PM by eveb.

laura007 Wrote:
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> I'm still trying to figure out how posters are
> making comments on things that I simply do not see
> in previous posts. As an example, a couple people
> referred to "bullying", as though a previous
> poster mentioned that. I did not see any previous
> post where someone used "bully" prior to Tlt14's
> comment ...

The original use of the b word was editied out by the poster at the request of shop2live.

Yeah, that OP is such a jerk with a warped sense of humor that isn't appreciated. I hope the mod will remove this entire thread. And let me caution the rest of you about posting in the middle of the night - tired posting is as bad as drinking and posting. There's bound to be casualties. Don't do it! Oh, and damn the caps lock key too!

I thought it was pretty hilarious.....

I don't appreciate seeing "MARKET FORCE" as the thread title when the thread is about taunting a forum member. It's not funny and a big waste of time. If I were a moderator I'd be issuing a warning about doing this AND make you change the title, or delete the thread altogether.

Ditto to bg. It made me smile.

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Edited because another post intervened.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/12/2014 09:51PM by stilllearning.

nycrocks Wrote:
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> I don't appreciate seeing "MARKET FORCE" as the
> thread title when the thread is about taunting a
> forum member. It's not funny and a big waste of
> time. If I were a moderator I'd be issuing a
> warning about doing this AND make you change the
> title, or delete the thread altogether.

Taunting? I am 100% certain this was not the OP's intent! LJ is all about having fun and making us smile. To characterize the post as 'taunting" or "bullying" is taking it way too seriously.

In my opinion, LJ is a breath of fresh air on this forum, on which some members too often negatively exaggerate the importance/effect of someone's actions.

LJ, please don't get discouraged and please keep doing what you're doing. With your quirky sense of humor, you make me laugh out loud and I thank you!

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Why are people taking such offense to this? Geez, I thought it was funny, and I didn't get any negativity at all from the original post, it was just a joke. Some people need to lighten up.

I posted a thread some months ago about why do we have all the redundancy on this forum, it is extremely irritating. I have learned to just wade through it, because it's obvious it is never going to change.

And as far as Gypsy goes, it seems she fancies herself somewhat of the "star" of the forum and thinks that others must genuinely view her life as interestingly as she does. OK, no big deal, read her posts or not.

There is one person on here (not this post) who I have had thoughts might be a troll. Despite my desire to post it, common sense got the better of me and I have kept my thoughts to myself. I can only imagine the beating I would take for that!

Hope everyone has a good weekend!!! I promise not to start a new MF thread anytime soon.

Everyone makes a mistake sometimes and posts something without thinking it through. I think making a joke is fine and lightens the mood, but better to think about whether another individual is the butt of the joke ......... and if so, better to consider how that person might feel being the butt of the joke.

To stilllearning: I am not humorless by any means, but when the title of a thread is purposely misleading I don't care for it. What if a lot of people did this just to poke fun at someone, or do you believe LJ should have an exclusive right to this privilege?

MOST people reading the forum naturally expect to find real information inside a thread named after a MSC in the MSC section. Have fun - but give people an option to decide if it's worth opening and reading the thread by titling it appropriately. I see now the post was moved out of the Company section (3rd edit), so that's helpful.

Also, I was not the first person to use the word "taunting." I believe the person who was the object of the thread used the word first. "Taunting" was probably meant be the same as "teasing" but I think "teasing" is the better word here.

Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 06/12/2014 11:41PM by nycrocks.

@nycrocks: LJ has my permission to poke fun at me, as others have many times in previous posts without my permission. If LJ wants the exclusive right to this privilege, normally I would charge, however for LJ, I am making a one-time exception based on LJ's bringing the "fun factor" to the forum, which I believe is too often in short supply.

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It depends on how much time we have to spend on the forum, or want to spend on the forum. If we spend lots of time, we are familiar with each thread, and with most members. If we don't have the time, then many posts and threads make no sense.

No worries, just pick and choose what is of interest.

HA! That's cool, as long as she titles the thread "For Fun!"