StormCloud Wrote:
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> You're not "smack dab in the middle" of Oregon, if
> Portland is 65 miles North. Not even close. Even
> if Portland is 65 miles to the West, you're still
> no where's *near* smack dab in the middle. You're
> somewhere in the NW quadrant of the state. In
> fact, the middle of the state would probably be
> the worst place to be, so far as MS'ing.
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> Also, Portland is a MAJOR pain in the ass to
> navigate, if you're not used to it. I strongly
> get the idea that Portland (and the greater area)
> is a pain in the ass to drive in, even when you
> *do* know where you're going. Not such an issue
> in the smaller towns.
> (above edited by me)
Stormcloud, I cannot agree with u more. I grew up in the NYC area. Anywhere above the city was considered "upstate". We had a home 60 miles north and we were "upstate" sounding like we were no where near NYC and all the way on the other side of the state even though NY state is one of the larger states in the nation and continued north and west forever after our house. Those people in places like Syracuse considered our "upstate" house to be basically in nyc area. My kids both went to college in Portland and I have had the nightmares of traveling in Portland too, trying to navigate to get to somewhere less than a mile away but across a river, or a ravine or a large center of town hill is impossible. It seems for some people California and Oregon are both only the places west of the 5 or 405 freeway and NY State is only NYC. I am sure I have the same misconceptions about other places I have not been.