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I have been paid well, paid timely, paid a little late, paid way late, and not been paid at all.

With any new company, my MO is to accept one geographically close, no-purchase required job, complete it, submit it, and wait to be paid. I make notes on when I completed the job, ease of dealing with schedulers/editors, my shop rating, overall impression, and finally... when I got paid.

Only when I get paid for my first one, will I go back and schedule others. That way, the worst that happened is I lost some of my time.

BillBryaninCarthage Wrote:
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> Hello,
> Do any of you have any experience working for
> Cirrus Marketing Intelligence?
> I have just joined them as an IC, after having
> seen a job posting made by Quality Scheduling and
> following a link in that job posting that led to
> Cirrus. Being new to shopping, only after I joined
> did I think to search this forum for information
> on this company. What I read (late-pay, no-pay,
> small-claims court issues) has made me nervous
> about working for them. But their job board lists
> some good-paying apartment shops that I am
> interested in. Any advice?

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I performed 7 shops with them in Dec 2013, and then 1-3 every month until April 2014.

My advice: do not work with them. They did not make a single payment on time for me. I had to send reminders, not just one but several. Excuses included: person not in the office, we've already paid you, etc.

Not a professional company. I refuse to work with them again. As a contractor they expect me to submit my reports on time, I expect to be paid on time. Many other company out there other than Cirrus. Use your time wisely.

At this point, I just treat them like surprise money. Take the job if it interests you and the money's right. Even if you're waiting 3 months on payment, when it comes, it's still the same amount, no?

BillBryaninCarthage Wrote:
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> Thank you BBird071. After reading your post I
> thought about applying for some jobs with Cirrus.
> Then I noticed the MSC payment dates thread and I
> decided to open it. Cirrus, it is said, pays 3.5
> months after a shop. This is much too long for me.
> So I don't even know if I should take the job they
> are offering.

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I would not turn down a good opportunity based solely on the payment terms. I wouldn't normally load up my schedule with a bunch of shops for which I won't be paid for 60-90 days, but one or 2 is fine with me - as long as I know that ahead of time AND the MSC is timely with payment, whatever their terms are.

I'd suggest you try one... only one... and see how it goes as suggested above. But I personally put them on my do not shop list based on the comments on the board here, not just about slow payment, but about having to keep after them to get even a slow payment. Time is money in this business, and the time spent hunting down a slow payment could be spent hunting down next week's shops.

Having said that, if I was booking a route and having trouble filling it, I would consider taking a job from them. If there was a job I would be pretty much driving past (no investment in gas to get to it) and I had the time to do it and the report did not appear overly burdensome, I would stick it in the route. But only if there was nothing else I could pick up in the area from a more reliable company.

You're new, with not as many options yet as the rest of us, so if you can do one on pretty much a "no skin off your back" basis -- sure, take one. Every shop we do helps us do the next shop better.

Time to build a bigger bridge.

To me it's the principal. A contract must be upheld by both parties. If a company expects me to submit my shops on time and in the format they deem right, I expect to be paid on time. Non payment is breech of contract. I can name a dozen other companies that pay on time. And I refuse to work with Cirrus based on their late payment. It would be one thing if it was a random one time thing. I have not been paid on time for several months and have records to prove this.

I agree with dspeakes: "and the time spent hunting down a slow payment could be spent hunting down next week's shops."

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/11/2014 07:37PM by djo88.

I have done 2 high paying shops with them. Each time I had to email remind the to pay me. They pay 90 days after the last of the month of your shop (don't forget to email the invoice since that's another hoop they use to throw you off!), so payment can be 4 months out.

Biggest tip: Don't forget about them, since you might not get paid if you do forget.

It took me six months to finally hound them enough to send me the payment for the bonused 'meatball' shop that I did.

That shop, by the way, was the worst shop I have ever done.......I don't like the store to begin with, and the return scenario was retarded. Wait for 20 minutes to pick up your bulky item at the delivery door, then wheel the cart 30 feet to your right to the return counter to immediately return it?? The report took me over 3 hours......and I am typically fairly quick at completing narrative reports.

BillBryan, as it is apartment shops you're interested in, I would take them and build a shop day around them. Since they're fee only, it's not like you're putting out your own money and waiting months for reimbursement.

I personally like Cirrus, and the long payment period doesn't bother me on fee-only shops.

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