Second-To-None wants to know why we don't like their pizza shops

They're sending notices about their pizza shops.

What caught my eye was this:

"Not interested? Please provide me with details as to why you do not wish to complete a shop or information as to how we can get you to participate. Thanks!"

Have any of you responded to this? I'm tempted to respond, but I don't want to risk getting deactivated or some such nonsense.

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Is it a form letter?

You could always reply to the same contact person with a disposable email address and then really be honest without them taking your feedback and possibly deactivating you for telling them what you really think they need to hear.
Phoebe, if this is about a certain "mangled pizza shop" that involves a red, green, and white logo and cardboard for "pizza," go ahead. Shopper hatred of that particular shop is well-known, hence why it bounces from MSC to MSC. If I was already registered with StN I'd do it myself: I've done that shop only once and the food made me INCREDIBLY ill, and I'm all too familiar with the client's refusal to pay.
Allow me to order additional items in same order, and only reimburse for the cost of the required pizza.

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Is this the same MSC that was sending emails saying how they were going to enter you into a $1000 lottery drawing for every shop that you did for this cardboard with imitation cheese floating on grease you butchered?

How gullable do they think people are?

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/28/2014 07:07PM by scanman1.
I actually wish that more MSC would ask this question in general.
They need to face the reality of what it takes to get the job done and to stop underbidding the contracts,

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LOL You are all funny. I do these shops for both companies and think it the easiest shop. No remembering anything (outside of a few times), reports are quick and easy. I admit I do not eat much of the pizza (as I am SO TIRED of it and agree that it does taste like cardboard LOL). I just give the pizza to my teenager who then shares it with his buddies or I take it to work for the breakroom. I do not take them for less than a $10 bonus but I do at least 10 of these a month (most of the time more as I have been picking up the double shops).


Hint: For the regular 1-2 topping, the pictures seem to come out better when pepperoni is ordered. I found that out as it is the teenager's favorite and the pictures are so much prettier! It must be the color contrast.

For the cheese ones, turn it over and do the flip view. Then cut the slices from the bottom. They don't smash that way. I use paring knives I got from the Dollar Tree. A four pack of them was $1. That way I can carry extras in the car or my MS bag and I don't feel bad if I lose one.

Shopping across Indiana but mostly around Indianapolis.
I do about ten of these a month as well. I take them between $13 and $25.

We generally do not eat the pizza. My children will eat it maybe once or twice in a month. I've been feeling bad about feeding it to them that often... they're starting to view it as a punishment.

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I won't go so far as to say that the crust is cardboard, but it is definitely oddly flat/smooth, tasteless, and tough. We like soft, fluffy, yeasty pizza crust. The sauce is Ragu-like. The cheese is waxy and doesn't much taste like cheese. I don't think they bake their pizza on a pizza stone. It looks like they use metal trays... Pizza stones breathe. Their pizza bottoms get suffocated.

We prefer homemade.

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Anybody that has done these for this company, can you tell me how long it usually takes them to approve it? I did my first one for them and it is still in process, 9 days later. Really would like to stop checking on it. Thanks.
I did exactly one of these shops and that's it. I got paid about 2 months later, but it has never made sense to me to do another one.
Gee, I wonder what they would think if you sent them these glowing testimonials (anonymously) prefaced with, "I asked this question in a shopping forum and these were the answers I got:"

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if this is about a certain "mangled pizza shop" that involves a certain colorful logo and cardboard for "pizza," go ahead. Shopper hatred of that particular shop is well-known, hence why it bounces from MSC to MSC. If I was already registered with StN I'd do it myself: I've done that shop only once and the food made me INCREDIBLY ill, and I'm all too familiar with the client's refusal to pay.


Is this the same MSC that was sending emails saying how they were going to enter you into a $1000 lottery drawing for every shop that you did for this cardboard with imitation cheese floating on grease you butchered? How gullable do they think people are?


I actually wish that more MSC would ask this question in general.
They need to face the reality of what it takes to get the job done and to stop underbidding the contracts,


We generally do not eat the pizza. My children will eat it maybe once or twice in a month. I've been feeling bad about feeding it to them that often... they're starting to view it as a punishment. *******this is my personal favorite comment***


LOL. And children normally LOVE pizza. This stuff must be nasty.


I won't go so far as to say that the crust is cardboard, but it is definitely oddly flat/smooth, tasteless, and tough. We like soft, fluffy, yeasty pizza crust. The sauce is Ragu-like. The cheese is waxy and doesn't much taste like cheese. I don't think they bake their pizza on a pizza stone. It looks like they use metal trays... Pizza stones breathe. Their pizza bottoms get suffocated.

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I really think they need to know. But I don't do these shops. I did one, had essentially the same experience as the rest of you, and have never done one since. Someone needs to tell Giovanni that his pizzas are crappy.

But probably no worse than Julius's. At least we don't have to mangle those before we try to eat them.

Time to build a bigger bridge.
I did a whole bunch of these, for two different MSCs, and only once did I ever have one rejected. (Oddly enough, I was still paid on it.) Another time I was offered the same location two days later, and found out they weren't happy with my first attempt that way. They wound up accepting that one.

The gargantuan MSC that does them did ask if those were all the pictures I had. I was worried I'd be getting a rejection after responding but they paid as well.

I haven't done these lately, mainly because I am starting to dislike the fact this company doesn't want to pay its workers properly. If the CEO can afford a megamansion, the company can afford to pay the people that actually make the profit for the company just a little more so they make an actual a living wage without having to take on two jobs.
diana615 Wrote:
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> Anybody that has done these for this company, can
> you tell me how long it usually takes them to
> approve it? I did my first one for them and it is
> still in process, 9 days later. Really would like
> to stop checking on it. Thanks.

Diana, I had them ask for a confirmation on my timings around ten to fourteen days later. I answered them and then they approved it. I was surprised at those particular questions being asked so much later.
dspeakes Wrote:
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> But probably no worse than Julius's. At least we
> don't have to mangle those before we try to eat
> them.


Actually, the deep dish from Julius' is really good and quite filling!! And their breadsticks are awesome. We don't like their regular pizza but when the MSC who has these posts the deep dish I always take it.

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Yeah, I didn't mind the deep dish so much. But the word "yuck" actually came out of my mouth after I bit into one of the regular ones. And I quoted myself in the report.

Time to build a bigger bridge.
I did 19 of these in the last month. Most of the time I give them to Youngest Son, who gifts them to his friends; most 20-somethings love pizza, especially when it's free!

A couple of weeks ago Oldest Son came through town after a business trip. I didn't have time to cook anything for dinner, but I had a couple of the pizzas in the freezer and re-heated them. To my surprise the crust tasted MUCH better-it had crisped up nicely.

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If they would stop the requirement of "molesting the pizza" perhaps more shoppers make take these smiling smiley
Let's see if I have this correct. The crust is flat, smooth tough and tasteless. Tastes like cardboard. The cheese is processed, floating on grease and is waxy. The sauce compares to Ragu. Eating it makes you sick and kids view eating it as punishment. Apparently the most redeeming feature is a colorful box.

Sounds great. I'm ready to dump my local privately owned Italian pizza shop that will make my pizza thin and well done or make special order pepperoni garlic knots or calzones with mozzarella only, no ricotta.

But perhaps I shouldn't pre-judge. I have never had a pizza from this particular chain, In fact I haven't had one from any chain in probably 20 years.

Am I missing something.

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/30/2014 01:35AM by LIJake.
Just watch Botox Business Owner's ads and you'll understand why it is stomach turning. Peyton Manning owns five of BBO's franchises and he's welcome to 'em! That stuff is cardboard crap!

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I have shopped them for four different MSCs, if memory serves. To start, I don't like what I have to order, and the ordering requirements are restrictive to the point of being shop busters. Past that, the report is easy, and I have never had photos rejected. So, when bonuses reach my point of good enough to be profitable, I take the shops.

To STN - Purchase requirements are absurdly restrictive, and potentially mark the shopper. All these years, I have had to order a 14" original crust, cheese, or two topping pie (and the approved toppings are limited). I like thin and crispy crust. I like pineapple and veggie pizza; mushrooms and black olives; barbecued chicken; spinach alfredo; chicken and tomato; margherita; anchovies and portobellos - none of which can be ordered. Also, I feel foolish when the upsell is a better deal and costs less than my required, and I have to pass. Also, that my freezer contains pies that will likely not be consumed by humans, as I no longer have starving teenagers with indiscriminating tastes who love any pizza with sausage, cheese, or pepperoni; and as my husband has gotten older, has developed a discrimating taste and an appreciation of a healthier diet.

I do appreciate STN for attaching a fee to the shop, and asking feedback from shoppers. That said, I doubt the all-knowing father figure will budge.

Edited for housecleaning purposes.

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If you can't raise the cost of your product by 15 cents per pie to provide your slaves, I mean employees, with health care, I don't want to eat your crappy product anyway. Who knows how ill the people making it are, eating substandard food due to low wages, hanging out with the public as a job requirement and then not being permitted healthcare or sick days?
I might consider doing them for a fee, but I am not registered with STN yet. The only pizza shops I see listed with the companies I am signed up with are reimbursement only. It seems like a lot of work to go through for a free mangled pizza.
I am registered with STN but have never considered doing one of these pizza shops from any of the MSC's they've used based on all the horror stories I've read here.

When our local baseball team (Tampa Bay Rays) scores 6 or more runs in a game, you can order one of their pizzas online for half price. I recently decided to take advantage of that deal and was totally disappointed. Their website is hard to use, never registered my toppings choices, and my confirmation e-mail went to junk. So I never saw when to pick it up. I finally called and was told it was ready, so by the time I got home it was barely lukewarm. It was an unimpressive pizza even after being rewarmed in the oven. I prefer deep dish crust, so I won't be ordering from them again for any reason--even if the Rays score 6 runs in the rest of their games (highly unlikely the way they're going).
I won't do them because I don't feel I can share manhandled pizza with my friends. I think that is so gross. I would not want to eat it if someone else was doing to it what were are expected to do to it before the first bite is taken.

With no fee attached with most of the MSCs who handle this account, all it is to me is overpriced dog food that I really don't want my dogs eating.
^My dogs are raw-fed, so I wouldn't feed this or dog chow to them either.

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^Mine are fed mostly homecooking and raw with a high quality grainless food as backup (due to long, overnight routes). They are Boxers so I have to always worry about bloat, thus I give them a wide variety in small quantities so that I rarely have to deal with upset stomachs. Their systems are used to a wide range of food.

I grew up on organic food and I try to do as much of that for the dogs as well. One of the things I learned while mystery shopping a high-end grocery store is that if something is labeled "organic" or "kosher" it cannot have any GMO-ingredients. Soy and corn are horrible for dogs and both are almost entirely GMO. And that same high-end grocery store carries meaty raw bones for my dogs, which is what I buy for the reimbursement.

You won't find boxes of processed food on my shelves or in my freezer. Pizza is a treat for all of us and, as such, I want a high-quality (preferably vegetarian), unmangled one when I do eat it. Juan's sounds absolutely disgusting (trying to get this back to the subject matter of this thread).
^ I have a pit bull, pit/boxer mix, and a pit/lab mix. smiling smiley

That is how I grew up as well, (farm girl) and I wouldn't want any less for my dogs either.

My kids enjoy pizza, but... while they will gobble down a homemade pizza... the second I walk through the door with STN's client's pizza... my 3 1/2 year old goes running and hides in her closet. This is the kid who, when I yell "Hey guys, dinner's ready" she comes running to set the table, gets out glasses, fetches bibs and napkins, and settles down to eat. But, for this pizza... she hides in her closet and has to be coaxed out. They both just sit there and pick the toppings off, eat that, eat their salads, and refuse to eat the rest of the pizza. Maybe every 3rd or 4th time, one of them might finish a slice, but... it's rare.

The last time I came in with one after picking it up, my daughter saw it, ran to her closet, and when I went to fetch her (after taking the pictures), she was in her room, picking up her toys and putting them away frantically. When I told her there was pizza if she wanted it, she yelled "No, no, no, I'm GOOD, I'm GOOD...." and pointed to the toys she'd picked up and put away. As if I'd gotten the pizza because she'd been bad.

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Botox Juan? omg...I am REALLY REALLY laughing at that, hahahaha.

I've never done this shop and will never do it. No thanks. winking smiley


bestofbothworlds Wrote:
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> Just watch Botox Juan's ads and you'll understand
> why it is stomach turning. Peyton Manning owns
> five of Juan's franchises and he's welcome to 'em!
> That stuff is cardboard crap!
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