Market Force is Ranked #21 on Honomichl List -- Not #1

Mary, You really are a sweet curmudgeon of a woman. There is nothing negative in BillB's posts about MF. He earned his stripes and should be respected for his achievement with the lowest paying company around. He worked it and came out ahead. That is something the folks at MF (and the rest of us) should respect. I am sure they value his contribution to their business. I have respect for BillBryan.

So many posters have recommended MF for newbies to learn the ropes. The information he provided in the original post was interesting and could have lead to a great exchange. Then, again, the thread was hijacked by idiots who want to portray themselves as superior, put the focus on themselves (in a pathetic way) and derail from the topic. What was missed was an interesting perspective with the underlying thought that some may feel anxiety with the threat of being deactivated. Let's face facts, not one person here wants to be deactivated through no fault of their own, give up their share of the pie or a have slight on their ego.

bgriffin, your reading skills are subpar. I posted the recipe not BillBryan. Unless you are lying about what you have on tap for the end of the month, it would be so easy to figure out who you are. I suggest that every person that gets called for an MF shop tell the "offshore" or other schedulers that they want what bgriffin is getting for the shop.

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@Sybil2 wrote:

Who is aggiejim72 and why does he have two screen names on here?

Three really

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@ShoppingBee wrote:

So many posters have recommended MF for newbies to learn the ropes. The information he provided in the original post was interesting and could have lead to a great exchange.

Please, share with us what conversation the information in your original post could have lead to. That there are other market research companies that are larger than Market Force? I'm seriously interested in a relevant conversation and I know LisaSTL is. You didn't seem to want a conversation that was relevant to the information posted though.

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"Please, share with us what conversation the information in your original post could have lead to. That there are other market research companies that are larger than Market Force?" bgriffin

Again it is about you and your misguided assumptions. Since you cannot comprehend a simple posting there is no need to explain further. You have been confused with being a woman for good reason. Based on your pyschosis you and Sybil seem to be one and the same. Obviously channeling a positive personality is not in your repetoire. Again your reading and comprehension are below the national standard. Grow up and stop derailing the threads. You give crap advise and are too wrapped up in yourself. Get the last word in 'cause that is what you are about!
@ShoppingBee wrote:

Since you cannot comprehend a simple posting there is no need to explain further. You have been confused with being a woman for good reason.

While I agree that not comprehending something is a womanly trait do we really need to be discussing that here?

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@bgriffin wrote:

@ShoppingBee wrote:

Since you cannot comprehend a simple posting there is no need to explain further. You have been confused with being a man for good reason.

While I agree that not comprehending something is a manly trait do we really need to be discussing that here?

There. I fixed it for both of you.

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This is the more appropriate quote from my post:
" You have been confused with being a woman for good reason. Based on your pyschosis you and Sybil seem to be one and the same."
There are plenty of women (and men) that have a comprehension level much higher than yours! Cut and paste, that is what you do best for your own motivation/purpose.
Sybil really was a great movie. If I were to have multiple personalities that is likely a name I would choose!

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When I first read the title of this post I thought it said, "Market Force shoppers #21 in Homicide" tongue sticking out smiley
And how many hours a week do you make that $30 an hour?

We ALL do bonus shops.

@bgriffin wrote:

I normally make in the $30 an hour range from this company. But the more people that don't like them the better for me so go ahead!
So ShoppingBee is BillBryaninCarthage who is also AggieJim72 and two other forum names which were deactivated? Talk about multiple personalities!

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ShoppingBee, I don't think you're BillBryan. As to alternative personalities, I call mine Barbara. Barbara thinks as a psychiatrist/psychologist you don't cut the mustard. Barbara thinks you should stick to mystery shopping in case you're better at it.

Mary Davis Nowell. Based close to Fort Worth. Shopping Interstate 20 east and west, Interstate 35 north and south.
Try $165 on those 3 shops.

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I'll let someone else report the ICA violation that slipped into that last post.....

Bill, it will shock everyone for me to say this, but bgriffin is correct in his objection to your original post; I pointed out the same thing. #21 on this particular list has nothing to do with MF's ranking as a mystery shop company. GfK (international company) and Maritz (possibly international as well) landed higher than MF on this list based on their total *market research* earnings. There is no way to know, based on this list, what their respective total *mystery shopping* revenues might be.

As I said before you are comparing apples (mystery shop ranking) to fruit (market research ranking, one component of which is mystery shopping).

If MF is #1 in number of shoppers, then they are #1 in number of shoppers. If they are also #1 in MS revenue, then they are #1 in MS revenue. As long as they don't claim #1 revenue if they don't rank there, they can still call themselves #1 based on the size of their shopper base.

There is absolutely no reason to discuss this further because you *don't have any facts about their MS revenue, shopper base, client base, or number of shops*. So what are we going to discuss? And what difference does it make anyway?

All you have said is that their failure to be above 2 other companies who outranked them on *this* list means that they are not the #1 mystery shopping company.

Your logic is flawed. Your conclusion is not based on any evidence. This list is moderately interesting but proves nothing regarding who is the biggest, richest, cheapest, best, worse or any other kind of MSC.

Believe whatever you want, including in Santa Claus, but you have proven nothing here because you do not have access to the information needed to do so.

Time to build a bigger bridge.
When you toggle someone you make them disappear. If you click the banner that says "Message hidden -- click to show message" you will see them and can toggle them back.

Time to build a bigger bridge.
You don't know if they rank lower or not. Neither do I. They are #21 on a list of market research companies, which is different than being #21 on a list of mystery shopping companies.

Perhaps MF gets $100 million in mystery shopping revenue and $50 million in other market research revenue.
Meanwhile Maritz gets $75 million in mystery shopping revenue and $100 million in other market research revenue.

They would show up on that list as being larger ($175 million compared to $150 million) but they would not show as larger on a list of mystery shopping companies ($100 million compared to $75 million).

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@BillBryaninCarthage wrote:

And where is this list of mystery shopping companies you refer to? There is no ranking of MSCs

That is exactly what everyone here has been trying to tell you since you posted this list. There is not list of largest MSCs and the list of Market Research Companies is not relevant because it takes into account large amounts of market research that are not mystery shopping.

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Well now, Bill, that's just an outrageous statement and I'm sure on second thought you'll realize that. None of us know what any of the rest of us earn on an annual basis unless we've voluntarily shared that information. Some of us part timers have shared that information but I've never seen definite numbers from the full timers with the exception of ColoKate who published some numbers a year or so ago that were impressive.

Your $2500 check from Market Force was nice but it doesn't prove squat. It was one check, one time, and you have no way of knowing what everyone else is doing. I don't understand how you can believe you are the top money maker because there is no top money maker list.

So, it looks like there is no top MSC list and there is no top shopper list. Of course there are better run MSCs just as there are better performing shoppers. We just don't know who they are, but years of reading the forum and working in the business provide us with clues now and then.

Mary Davis Nowell. Based close to Fort Worth. Shopping Interstate 20 east and west, Interstate 35 north and south.
MDN, he won't read your post, we're both on his toggle list you see. I'm actually on there 5 times. I'm almost embarrassed to be toggled 5 times by someone else. Also if you toggle someone 5 times doesn't that person end up being untoggled?

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Lol I'm neutral here but I have been laughing at Bill's signature. That's great. Gave me a good laugh. Thanks smiling smiley

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B, I'm sorry but you don't have a firm grip on the toggle feature. You've probably been running around like a mad man getting all those high dollar last minute FF shops and you've neglected your toggle education. By the way, way to go on three at $165, congrats on that.

Once you toggle a person, that person is toggled until you UNtoggle him/her. So are you saying Bill toggled and untoggled you five times and now you don't know if you're toggled or untoggled? Bless your heart, that is a quandary isn't it? Personally, I don't concern myself with whether I'm toggled. I answer posts just like everyone can see them and if they can't, well, that's their problem, bless their hearts, too.

I suspect being toggled makes no difference. The reason I say this is because I've toggled a lot of people and I click on their posts and read them anyway but I don't untoggle them because they've ticked me off, so there! So you see why I think maybe Bill reads your posts even if he toggled you, because that's the way I operate. Now I know I'm not quite sane and I'm looking forward to being psychoanalyzed by Bill's buddy Shopping Bee and can't wait to see what she/he makes of me and my alter ego Barbara. We are so far not appreciative of her psychiatric abilities but hey that'S just us, or me, whatever.

Mary Davis Nowell. Based close to Fort Worth. Shopping Interstate 20 east and west, Interstate 35 north and south.


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"I'm willing to stop defending my point of view in this thread, I've made my point."

Uh, no, you didn't. You didn't make your point at all and I think whoever pegged you as being a former troll under a new alias may have been correct. If not, this is the best imitation of his attitude I've ever seen.

And I think now I shall put you on *my* toggle list. And I reported you for having a very inappropriate signature line.

I think you've forgotten that many of these people you're being stubborn and combative with and trying to embarrass with your childish signature line naming whom you have toggled are the ones who have done quite a lot to help you become a good shopper.

And if we all toggle you, as you so richly deserve now, we just won't see the next time you have a problem or ask for help.

so this is my last comment on this bit of nonsense you keep going on and on about. And my next move will be to hit the toggle button and just ignore you.

And I hope that's your real name you're posting with because if it is, you're hopefully about to see your income take a big hit.

Time to build a bigger bridge.
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