@LisaSTL wrote:

How about the fact you are posting on a thread that had absolutely nothing to do with Sentry simply because roflwofl posted here. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see you are being petty and vindictive.

Sorry to disagree with you but many forum members (including you and me) have gone off-topic and crossed posted in other threads. It happens on a weekly basis, if not a daily basis.

Sure, but this is Dave. Watch us treat Dave and anyone who supports him differently.
Watch us not care that aprilredbird slanted her posts to reflect something entirely warped from what happened and then watch us savage Dave anyway because we want to and we can. Watch us jump Steve and Mary for posting in a Sentry thread because we don't want anyone to defend Dave. Yeah. Let's get rid of Dave and Steve and Mary altogether, just throw them out and be done with it. Then we'll find someone else to chew on, because that's what we do. Let's all take a look at that.

@Sybil2 wrote:

Sorry to disagree with you but many forum members (including you and me) have gone off-topic and crossed posted in other threads. It happens on a weekly basis, if not a daily basis.

All this talk about chewing just gave me a craving for some baby back ribs. Who wants to join me?

As I posted previously, I posted on this thread in response to Steve's comment. It's very interesting that you have nothing to say about roflwofl's blatant contradiction but consider my pointing it out to be an egregious attack. I'd say it's petty and vindictive to post information that's not true in an attempt to discredit another member the forum.

You comment about the PM is true. I wanted to check in and see if something had changed in our previous cordial relationship. If it didn't then, I think it's safe to say that it has now.

It's time for the pity party to stop? This comment is just another example different standards apply to Sentry/myself than other forum members. I should give it a rest while others are free to post contradictory, inaccurate and misleading information with being help accountable.

I think what turns off most forum members is the inconsistency in which standards are applied and the decidedly anti-company attitude displayed by you and a small group of other members.

@LisaSTL wrote:

How about the fact you are posting on a thread that had absolutely nothing to do with Sentry simply because roflwofl posted here. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see you are being petty and vindictive. I rarely read a Sentry thread and comment on them even less. My opinion has been entirely formed by your behavior over the years not by anything written by any member. For Chrissakes, you PMed me after I "liked" a humorous post. The reason, it was written by someone I can only assume you consider one of your arch nemeses. So yes, it's time for the pity party to stop and for you to give it a rest. No doubt your dog with a bone attitude is going to turn off way more potential shoppers than anything I could say in a hundred threads.

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I am a new forum member, so maybe I should just shut up, but since that doesn't usually happen....

I don't have a dog in this fight:
-I haven't shopped for Sentry and can't comment on the jobs, pay, schedulers or owner when working jobs for them. Before this dust up, I didn't have any particular opinion of the company at all: positive or negative.
-I have previously found Steve and Mary to be among the most helpful and informative commenters on this forum. I'd also put Flash, and LisaSTL into this category.

So, I came into the argument neutrally. I can say that seeing the way Sentry's owner has jumped into the discussion and been willing to engage with other commenters directly has made me less interested in working for the company rather than more interested. It's one thing to correct incorrect information, but the way you went about it was off-putting (I agree with @bestofbothworlds). Researching other commenters previous comments to try to find an inconsistency feels like a case of "methinks the lady doth protest too much".

Take this as you will. I don't mean to attack you further. I really just wanted to let you know the net effect it's had on someone who didn't have any opinion of your company before these two discussions started.

Sybil, neither of us owns a MSC we are trying to claim has been done wrong.

Ah then. In your case, Caligirl, we lost as usual, their mission accomplished again. I understand the reluctance to engage, and I applaud you for your courage to speak out.

Thanks Mary. This is an anonymous internet forum, so I'm not going to break my arm patting myself on the back for my courage, though.

In case my post wasn't clear: it was Sentry's owner's posts that mostly left me with a bad taste, not posts by the regular forum members. I know some people really like certain companies and want to defend them. That doesn't bother and wouldn't make me feel negatively about the company in question. It was the owner's posts that felt needlessly defensive and vindictive. I don't have all the history, but I can tell that this particular owner feels badly used by this forum. I would never have known that if he hadn't responded so defensively to the relatively minor criticisms from April and some of the other commenters. Just an observation. Take it for what you will.

@CaliGirl925 wrote:

I am a new forum member, so maybe I should just shut up....

CaliGirl925, both your input and neutrality are more than appreciated here. I struggle with why some of us are at odds with one another on this particular topic and your input, as someone who is new to the fray, helps bring perspective to it.

I would estimate that LisaSTL and I have agreed on 99% of mystery shopping discussions in the past, with me being sometimes amazed that when I though about posting regarding a particular topic, I could refresh the page and see input from her that was exactly what I would have written. So...the question remains about why this particular topic is so particularly polarizing.

I think it's safe to say that some wrong has been done on both sides. I openly admit that I am quick to judge any who attack sentry, since I'm offended by the double-standard that exists regarding feedback on them. I don't think we need to debate who's wrongs are more egregious, but it would be amazing if some step could be taken on both sides to extend an olive branch and start to bring about an end to this disagreement. Put a John Lennon track on an just imagine a world where all feedback offered was truly unbiased. It's not likely to happen, but I think we'd have a better forum if we could be moving in the direction of that goal.

I can say this for sure; Continuing to fight with a MSC owner who is supplying a decent amount of shops to the MS community, paying in what is close to a timely manner and engaging the MS community for feedback is not going to bring about the positive changes that I think we all agree are needed in the MS industry, and does nothing to create peace on this forum. I wholeheartedly believe that they best way to bring about change with MSCs is to engage in a positive relationship with the MSC representatives.

Outside of just asking Dave and any who agree with me simply leave the forum, which is not likely to happen, how about we then come to some agreement where Dave does not feel the need to constantly post in defense of his MSCs, can spend his time running said MSCs better and we all might be able to provide him feedback that just might bring about positive changes with Sentry so that it is a MSC that CaliGirl925 wants to shop for?

You don't have to like Dave or work for Sentry, just stop the lying in order to make a point. Politely point out the right for MSCs to set their own pay rate and pay schedule, and mention that those who do not like to write narratives might not be the best fit for some assignments....for ALL companies. You might be amazed at how quickly the whole issue will go away.

I don't have the back history and honestly, I don't really want it. To me this forum has been so rewarding. I've learned so much from all of you. Everyone is so willing to give detailed responses that have helped me so much. I don't think the forum should change one bit. I don't think that anyone should be banned either. I like that we, the shoppers, can discuss our opinions about shops and MSC. I like the set of parameters we have now to do this. I definitely don't think any thread should be deleted. Even "ugly" experiences are good for learning purposes and I think that is what this forum is about; sharing and learning.

CaliGirl925

I appreciate your point of view and will take it into consideration. I'd like to ask you to take a second look at the aprilredbird thread because I don't recall posting anything defensive. My first post was actually in response to your comment about our editors instruction (regarding the food description) being "weird and creepy". All my reply contained was the exact text that our editor sent to april. I don't believe that post attacked, criticized or denigrated april in any way. Similarly, my second post was in response to april's comments about the 20 minute time frame. Again, all I did was post the exact text of the guidelines. Nothing in that post commented on the shopper in any way.

If one of the forum's purposes is to share information about companies and assignments, shouldn't that information be accurate? This is one point that seems to be ignored in all of the noise that these two threads has created.

There is some recent history related to my post this morning. Back in July, roflwofl had some very candid things to say about me and my participation in this forum (http://www.mysteryshopforum.com/read/6/336348/443071#msg-443071). While the post was qualified as his/her opinion, many of the comments were asserted as facts and overall, the post was not complimentary. One of the comments is that I attack forum members and another brought up an issue from 2009. My behavior was described as "pissy and unprofessional".

I'll ask again: doesn't accuracy matter? If a forum member is going to call one another forum member for treating others with disrespect, shouldn't the information they post be accurate and truthful?

You made a Shakespeare reference (The lady doth protest too much, methinks) earlier regarding my posts refuting information I believe to be incorrect. I wonder, does the same thing apply to forum members who have held a grudge for more than six years? You are correct about their being a history. You may be surprised to learn that over the years, forum members have posted profanity, personal insults and information that can only be considered dishonest. While I may actively refute information I consider inaccurate, I don't believe their is one post in the last five years that could be considered an attack against a forum member.

Reading this forum has been very helpful in staying connected to the shopper's point-of-view. Over the years, we've made many policy and procedure changes based on information posted on this forum. We extended our shop submission deadline based in part on comments made by forum members and we revised the way we describe assignments in postings based solely on a thread from this forum. It's disappointing to be chased of here by an angry mob.

I am not anti-shopper by any stretch of the imagination. Despite a significant increase in the number of shop we conduct, I still interact with shoppers on a regular basis and that vast majority of those interactions are very pleasant. Shoppers work extremely hard, many times for low pay, yet the industry cannot exist without their efforts. Shoppers deserve a lot of respect and they should be treated with patience and professionalism. I don't think it's unreasonable to expect shoppers to act in the same manner (patient and professional). I believe that it's good for the industry when shoppers and MSC representatives interact as long as the exchange is respectful. That's what I've tried to do in my participation in this forum.

@CaliGirl925 wrote:

Thanks Mary. This is an anonymous internet forum, so I'm not going to break my arm patting myself on the back for my courage, though.

In case my post wasn't clear: it was Sentry's owner's posts that mostly left me with a bad taste, not posts by the regular forum members. I know some people really like certain companies and want to defend them. That doesn't bother and wouldn't make me feel negatively about the company in question. It was the owner's posts that felt needlessly defensive and vindictive. I don't have all the history, but I can tell that this particular owner feels badly used by this forum. I would never have known that if he hadn't responded so defensively to the relatively minor criticisms from April and some of the other commenters. Just an observation. Take it for what you will.

In response to Steve and Steve only, for a long time I had nothing but a neutral opinion of Dave and Sentry. My opinion was formed much the same way as CaliGirl by the impression of me thinks thou dost protest too much.

My decisions on whether to work with a company are only influenced by payment issues. If a company pays according to their own terms it doesn't make a whit of difference what others think. I dare say some of my favorite MSCs are some others hate. So in reality, I have no dog in this hunt. Sarcasm or not, my involvement now was the suggestion a thread might be deleted which had me seeing red. Combine that with the troll like behavior of carrying this over to an unrelated thread and spitting nails would be an appropriate description of my feelings. I also find it absurd anyone would give a rat's patoot what is said about them on social media by a bunch of anonymous posters. My recommendation to anyone taking anonymous posts so personally would be to grow a pair and get over it. If I had a dollar for everyone who hates me on this forum I would be kissing mystery shopping goodbye.

Any research into my own posts will see appreciation for owners and representatives of MSCs to provide the "rest of the story" after an over the top bashing. It will also reveal I do not tolerate bullsh-t from either ranting shoppers or misguided MSC representatives. Have I made mistakes? You bet your sweet a--. I at least try to have enough sense (once in a while) to call it a day and move on.

If this is meant for Steve, may you should have sent it in a PM.

@LisaSTL wrote:

In response to Steve and Steve only, for a long time I had nothing but a neutral opinion of Dave and Sentry. My opinion was formed much the same way as CaliGirl by the impression of me thinks thou dost protest too much.

My decisions on whether to work with a company are only influenced by payment issues. If a company pays according to their own terms it doesn't make a whit of difference what others think. I dare say some of my favorite MSCs are some others hate. So in reality, I have no dog in this hunt. Sarcasm or not, my involvement now was the suggestion a thread might be deleted which had me seeing red. Combine that with the troll like behavior of carrying this over to an unrelated thread and spitting nails would be an appropriate description of my feelings. I also find it absurd anyone would give a rat's patoot what is said about them on social media by a bunch of anonymous posters. My recommendation to anyone taking anonymous posts so personally would be to grow a pair and get over it. If I had a dollar for everyone who hates me on this forum I would be kissing mystery shopping goodbye.

Any research into my own posts will see appreciation for owners and representatives of MSCs to provide the "rest of the story" after an over the top bashing. It will also reveal I do not tolerate bullsh-t from either ranting shoppers or misguided MSC representatives. Have I made mistakes? You bet your sweet a--. I at least try to have enough sense (once in a while) to call it a day and move on.

@Sentry Marketing wrote:

If this is meant for Steve, may you should have sent it in a PM.

Maybe you should utilize the toggle feature. Otherwise, don't tell me what the f--k to do.

Equal rights for others does not mean fewer rights for you. It's not pie.
"I prefer someone who burns the flag and then wraps themselves up in the Constitution over someone who burns the Constitution and then wraps themselves up in the flag." -Molly Ivins
Never try to teach a pig to sing. It's a waste of your time and it really annoys the pig.

@ wrote:

I'll ask again: doesn't accuracy matter?

Of course it matters. But "accuracy" is in the eye and ear of the shopper and the MSC. It's not just your way or the highway, Dave. We all see things differently.

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Thank you and hear-hear, LisaSTL!

best - If your talking about perception, not only do I get it, I agree with you. For example, PaulinMI has made it very clear that he thinks our burger project is too much work for the fee and reimbursement. Have I made one comment in response to Paul's many references to his view? I don't think you'll find even one. Paul is a great shopper who produces outstanding work.

The other two situations are different. aprilredbird posted information about instructions given to her by our editor as well as assignment instructions regarding the required time to stay in the restaurant. The other involves a forum member taking me to task for my behavior and then posting information that is contradictory. I don't see how "eye of the beholder" applies.

So if accuracy matters and the posting guidelines are to "be honest", how does my raising a clear contradiction set off a firestorm? The angry mob can bully and insult as much as they want. The question still remains why there is so little concern for accuracy and honesty in one situation and so much concern for it in others.

@bestofbothworlds wrote:

@ wrote:

I'll ask again: doesn't accuracy matter?

Of course it matters. But "accuracy" is in the eye and ear of the shopper and the MSC. It's not just your way or the highway, Dave. We all see things differently.

Thanks to a friend forum member for PMing me. Having toggled both Dave and Steve, I had no idea about the discussion of inaccuracy. I totally agree accuracy is important, and I apologize to the forum for my inaccuracy. Let me set the record straight. I am registered with Feedback Plus and I have performed shops for them. I used to love their quick payment and short reports. I am probably still registered but I have not worked for FP since it was purchased by David Agius, who also owns Sentry. I am not and never have been registered with Sentry. After reading posts made by Dave on this forum, I chose not to register. And, after FP being purchased by Dave, I chose not to perform further shops. As independent contractors, we choose which companies we wish to work for just as companies choose their shoppers.

As to Dave's frequent whining about being treated differently, and Steve's assertion that he is offended by the "double standard" applied to Sentry feedback, I would completely agree. In the 3 years I have been reading here, Sentry has been treated differently from all the other MSCs. There are a lot of complaints posted about Sentry, a rather small MSC, and Sentry has few defenders here on the forum. I think, and this is only the humble opinion of an inaccurate and infrequent poster, that the different treatment is directly related to the behavior that Dave Agius exhibits on this forum. Dave's behavior and posts on this forum are far different from any other MSC owner on this forum.

How many MSC owners make such frequent and argumentative posts to this shopper forum? How many MSC owners use this forum to identify shoppers and deactivate them based on their posts here? How many MSC owners jump in defensively to any thread mentioning their company that is not positive? Dave is treated with less respect and receives more criticism because he behaves in a way that other MSC owners do not on this forum.

Thank you roflwofl because you have succinctly identified precisely why Mr. Agius is held in contempt by many of us who have watched his prior performances. Of course he will come back and attack you, as well as me, because he is unable to leave the conversation without having the last word.

@martica wrote:

I don't think the forum should change one bit. I don't think that anyone should be banned either. I like that we, the shoppers, can discuss our opinions about shops and MSC. I like the set of parameters we have now to do this. I definitely don't think any thread should be deleted. Even "ugly" experiences are good for learning purposes and I think that is what this forum is about; sharing and learning.

I disagree. The Not-So Artful Dodger went on a sexist and racist rampage this past weekend. He used extremely vile words towards women and blacks and so on. The moderators or Jacob quickly removed his nasty posts and in two instances, removed entire threads. These deletions were totally warranted and much appreciated by the forum members who had to experience this behavior. So I disagree with you on this issue.

roflwofl

I appreciate your admiration for Feedback Plus. That's the reason that I purchased the company. When we took over Feedback Plus in April, 2014, the company (Feedback Plus) was losing $15,000 per month and on a trajectory toward bankruptcy. I expected the change in payment terms to be met with some resistance, however, this change was needed to provide Feedback Plus with some breathing room and to avoid having to lay off staff members.

Today, Feedback Pack is on the road to profitability. Many Feedback projects have been migrated to the new Sentry ShopMetrics platform and shoppers have the option of being paid by check or direct deposit. The Feedback reports have not changed in any way and, in fact, we increased the shopper pay for our largest project.

I hold a different view of the size of our company as well as the overall nature of the feedback about our company on this forum. Overall, I'd say the the feedback about Sentry is a balance between those who like working with us and those who don't. Of course, there are a lot of biased comments like the ones you've made here about my "whining" and the number of complaints about Sentry. I think the efforts of some here to damage our company based on a personal grudge is irresponsible and reprehensible.

You're right about my participation in this forum vs. other MSC owners. Most other MSC owners don't take the time to acknowledge the existence of this forum, let alone engage with the forum members. Overall, my interaction with forum members, both in the forum and offline, has been extremely positive. The reality is that more forum members don't post about us because they don't want to be attacked and marginalized by you, LisaSTL and the other members of the angry mob.

Flash - nicely done. I'm not going to attack you, however. You're entitled to your opinion of my company and I and it's no secret that we don't care for each other. For all I know, you are a pleasant person and a delight to be around. I don't care for the manner in which you conduct yourself on this forum or your efforts to damage my company but your entitled to give it your best shot.

@roflwofl wrote:

Thanks to a friend forum member for PMing me. Having toggled both Dave and Steve, I had no idea about the discussion of inaccuracy. I totally agree accuracy is important, and I apologize to the forum for my inaccuracy. Let me set the record straight. I am registered with Feedback Plus and I have performed shops for them. I used to love their quick payment and short reports. I am probably still registered but I have not worked for FP since it was purchased by David Agius, who also owns Sentry. I am not and never have been registered with Sentry. After reading posts made by Dave on this forum, I chose not to register. And, after FP being purchased by Dave, I chose not to perform further shops. As independent contractors, we choose which companies we wish to work for just as companies choose their shoppers.

As to Dave's frequent whining about being treated differently, and Steve's assertion that he is offended by the "double standard" applied to Sentry feedback, I would completely agree. In the 3 years I have been reading here, Sentry has been treated differently from all the other MSCs. There are a lot of complaints posted about Sentry, a rather small MSC, and Sentry has few defenders here on the forum. I think, and this is only the humble opinion of an inaccurate and infrequent poster, that the different treatment is directly related to the behavior that Dave Agius exhibits on this forum. Dave's behavior and posts on this forum are far different from any other MSC owner on this forum.

How many MSC owners make such frequent and argumentative posts to this shopper forum? How many MSC owners use this forum to identify shoppers and deactivate them based on their posts here? How many MSC owners jump in defensively to any thread mentioning their company that is not positive? Dave is treated with less respect and receives more criticism because he behaves in a way that other MSC owners do not on this forum.

Since you seem to have all the time in the world, please find my posts attacking anyone for simply posting anything positive about Sentry. And posts directed at you and your crap don't count. I look forward to reading them in the morning. I should have plenty of time to read them and play Dragonvale before even finishing my first cup of cappuccino.

Dave, take the high road and shut the heck up. You sound like a whiny petulant child who must have the last word. Grow up.

Is this the Dave from Cheech and Chong??
dave's not here...

@jackaroe wrote:

Is this the Dave from Cheech and Chong??
dave's not here...

LOL!

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This has really gotten tiresome

LisaSTL wrote "Sarcasm or not, my involvement now was the suggestion a thread might be deleted which had me seeing red."

Jeez, Lisa, can't you take a joke? As far as seeing red at the suggestion that a thread might be deleted, why weren't you outraged when a forum member wrote "I know why threads and posts are deleted from this forum". [www.mysteryshopforum.com]

So it appears that threads ARE deleted from this forum. Are you outraged at this behavior?

As far as me being a troll, well, I'd say that description fits the forum members who cower behind their anonymity to hurl insults and bully. Not that you'll care, but I respect you for not being a part of that group.

Lastly, I think if someone was trying to impact your ability to mystery shop by posting inaccurate information on social media, you'd have a think or two to say about it.

@LisaSTL wrote:

In response to Steve and Steve only, for a long time I had nothing but a neutral opinion of Dave and Sentry. My opinion was formed much the same way as CaliGirl by the impression of me thinks thou dost protest too much.

My decisions on whether to work with a company are only influenced by payment issues. If a company pays according to their own terms it doesn't make a whit of difference what others think. I dare say some of my favorite MSCs are some others hate. So in reality, I have no dog in this hunt. Sarcasm or not, my involvement now was the suggestion a thread might be deleted which had me seeing red. Combine that with the troll like behavior of carrying this over to an unrelated thread and spitting nails would be an appropriate description of my feelings. I also find it absurd anyone would give a rat's patoot what is said about them on social media by a bunch of anonymous posters. My recommendation to anyone taking anonymous posts so personally would be to grow a pair and get over it. If I had a dollar for everyone who hates me on this forum I would be kissing mystery shopping goodbye.

Any research into my own posts will see appreciation for owners and representatives of MSCs to provide the "rest of the story" after an over the top bashing. It will also reveal I do not tolerate bullsh-t from either ranting shoppers or misguided MSC representatives. Have I made mistakes? You bet your sweet a--. I at least try to have enough sense (once in a while) to call it a day and move on.

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Agreed that this is tiresome. It's pretty clear that some will never cease the argument, no matter how much reason is offered. Hatfield-McCoy comes to mind....

As far as Lisa's contributions to the forum go, I don't have to look at her history to know that it will probably be difficult to find a case of her attacking a poster that said something positive to say about Sentry. She's always been very respectful to me, even when we occasinally did not agree. If you look at her top posts, you will see that she is not afraid to take on shoppers or MSC reps utilizing logic and reason when they are in the wrong, and I would urge anyone posting here to re-read her top post:

[www.mysteryshopforum.com]

I did not post the link to it to discredit Lisa in any way. On the contrary, her defense of the forum posted there is something that I completely agreed with. It echoes what I have said above. Posters on the forum should be expected to account for what they write, and unsubstantiated claims or unprofessional behavior should not be encouraged....in reference to any poster, be they a newbie, a well-known poster or a MSC rep.

I would counter any claims of neutrality with the reality that we all have a dog in this hunt, since we all work in the industry. One of the biggest gripes against shoppers from MSCs and their clients is the lack or professionalism and objectivity from shoppers. This is public forum and anything written about here is searchable. Shoppers may feel safe, cloaked in anonymity, to post overtly negative comments about others, but calling anyone a "whiny petulant child" or telling them to shut up is simply rude and unprofessional, no matter who it's addressed at. It makes us all look bad.

In reference to who gets hurt by a group of anonymous posters on social media, just google the company name and the word 'fraud' in the same search. For me, with Sentry, the 5th hit down the list is this very forum, and when I click that link, guess which thread is at the top of the list presented? From the limited text you see on that page, the words that immediately stand out are "awful", "ridiculously long narrative", "sketchy", "horrible" and an all-caps "RUDE". Does anyone realistically think that's what a non-anonymous entity wants for a public image of their company?

Conversely, that same search utilizing Grass Roots America returned no hits for MSF on the first page. It's sad that a company which left so many shoppers on the hook without paying them has a better social presence on this forum that one that is employing and paying shoppers. When I took Jane Newnum to task for her connection in potentially defrauding 43 forum members and countless others, my entire collection of posts were liked by 9 different forum members in total, and only 3 of those were ones owed money!

The answer seems to be that with limited controversy, there is limited interest. Most forum members would rather support their own specific local interests rather than the industry as a whole, as evidenced by the increasing likes for the bashing of the OP in this very thread.

Feel free to add a bunch of follow-ups, telling me to go back to posting only what I know about. I'm done with this discussion and also done defending the possibility for this forum to not be hated by the majority of MSC owners. I agree that Dave's biggest mistake has been engaging forum members and have said before that the smartest owners prohibit their staff from posting here. When this is the mentality they face, no good can come from maintaining a presence here. Myself, I don't really have that much anonymity since most MSC staff and anyone who's been around from when I was scheduling know exactly who I am. My goal at this point is to simply distance myself as much as possible from the group of people who give a poor impression of mystery shoppers.

@LisaSTL wrote:

How about the fact you are posting on a thread that had absolutely nothing to do with Sentry simply because roflwofl posted here. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see you are being petty and vindictive. I rarely read a Sentry thread and comment on them even less.

Sorry to agree with you in this thread publicly. PM replies are not working.

Uh, oh! Sorry I forgot to copy and paste the PM that I attempted to send. "Way to go, Lisa! Too bad I could not like your post more than once."

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@SteveSoCal wrote:

Agreed that this is tiresome.

And yet you followed this statement up with 7 lengthy paragraphs.
Apparently we have different definitions of tiresome.
Or as I suspect tiresome only refers to the people who are replying to you.
And that last part is directed to all of you.

Seriously. Just drop it.