Did you know that " marks become ? marks in Sassie?

I recently received the following comments on my Sassie shopper log for a very detailed shop that I performed for a particular MSC.

"Great job on your report. The comments were perfect. The only thing I changed was the quotation marks. When you type of the comments in word and paste them into sassie, sassie changes quotation marks into question marks. You can see the change after spell checking the survey. Not a problem though."

I still received a "10" on my report but this is the first time in over a year of MS'ing that I am hearing about quotations marks being turned into questions marks. Has anyone else heard of this happening? Just curious.

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No and considering Sassie spell check only works about 1 time out of 10 and doesn't have a word count, composing in Word and pasting it into the form is necessary.

Equal rights for others does not mean fewer rights for you. It's not pie.
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Yes, I've noticed that myself. It is visible if you go back and check, but if you just cut-and-paste it, you will not see it. You have to do the spellcheck before shows up.

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/23/2012 12:43AM by Shelly.
I've noticed that it happens sometimes but not always. I got a not-so-nice remark from an editor once about it.
Did you know that pictures you uploaded to SASSIE were (if not always, then at least sometimes) compressed? That may explain editors claiming your pictures were not clear/legible when they looked just fine to you.

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/22/2012 06:19PM by BusyBeeBuzzBuzzBuzz.
Yes, I've encountered that but it's only for smart quotes (the quotes that curve towards the words) and not regular quotes (the ones that go straight up and down). One of the companies I edit for (Spies in Disguise), I have to change all the smart quotes turn into question marks in the report. It's a pain to have to change it over. There's a way to turn off the smart quotes in Word but when I've tried explaining it to shoppers how to turn it off, it's never something they've been able to figure out.

It's not something shoppers should be penalized for because the system can't handle the quotes. Nor should editors be snarky about it when it's out of your control and you don't necessarily learn that it will do that. Spies will only do it once it's submitted to the client, so the smart quotes look like quotation marks when I edit it, too. So it's easy to miss sometimes.

I'm glad to hear they didn't count it against you, ShopToLive, but I'm sorry to hear BuzyBee got attitude over it.

Just FYI, Shopmetrics can handle the smart quotes so you don't have to worry about it with any Shopmetrics company.

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/22/2012 07:03PM by AlwaysAngie.
How about a quick tutorial on turning them off in Wordsmiling smiley

Equal rights for others does not mean fewer rights for you. It's not pie.
"I prefer someone who burns the flag and then wraps themselves up in the Constitution over someone who burns the Constitution and then wraps themselves up in the flag." -Molly Ivins
Never try to teach a pig to sing. It's a waste of your time and it really annoys the pig.
According to How-To Geek...

"Have you ever noticed that Microsoft Word converts apostrophes and quotes into curly characters? This really annoys me since I'm often trying to write technical documents that require the real quotes. Thankfully you can turn it off, but the setting is hard to find in Word 2007."

[www.howtogeek.com]



Apparently it is a lot easier in Microsoft Word 2003...

Disable in Office 2003

Simply go to Tools \ AutoCorrect Options \ AutoFormat and uncheck "straight quotes with smart quotes".


UPDATE: I have Microsoft Office 2007 so I just followed the instructions step-by-step and I was able to remove the smart quotes. So now I have dumb quotes. ;-)

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“I'm the one that's got to die when it's time for me to die, so let me live my life the way I want to.”
~ Jimi Hendrix

“The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.” ~ Mark Twain

“To the well-organized mind, death is but the next great adventure.” ~ J.K. Rowling, Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone


Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/22/2012 11:54PM by Shop2LiveinFL.
Thanks for including the instructions for 2003. I officially have dumb quotes, although others will probably say I've had them all alongwinking smiley

Equal rights for others does not mean fewer rights for you. It's not pie.
"I prefer someone who burns the flag and then wraps themselves up in the Constitution over someone who burns the Constitution and then wraps themselves up in the flag." -Molly Ivins
Never try to teach a pig to sing. It's a waste of your time and it really annoys the pig.
@ LisaSTL ~ Stealing my dumb quotes quote? I see how you are. GO PATS! :-P

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“I'm the one that's got to die when it's time for me to die, so let me live my life the way I want to.”
~ Jimi Hendrix

“The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.” ~ Mark Twain

“To the well-organized mind, death is but the next great adventure.” ~ J.K. Rowling, Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone
The ? would not come up if you DO NOT use the spellcheck function in sassie, after you paste in the narrative. I spellcheck my narrative in Word beforehand.

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Thanks, good for me to know.

Shop2LiveinFL Wrote:
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> I recently received the following comments on my
> Sassie shopper log for a very detailed shop that I
> performed for a particular MSC.
>
> "Great job on your report. The comments were
> perfect. The only thing I changed was the
> quotation marks. When you type of the comments in
> word and paste them into sassie, sassie changes
> quotation marks into question marks. You can see
> the change after spell checking the survey. Not a
> problem though."
>
> I still received a "10" on my report but this is
> the first time in over a year of MS'ing that I am
> hearing about quotations marks being turned into
> questions marks. Has anyone else heard of this
> happening? Just curious.
THANK YOU for this thread! Especially to Shop2LiveinFL - Yesterday I banged out a really long report, cut and pasted into a Sassie form, and after all of that work went back to re-read to be sure, and don't you know that ALL of my quotes were replaced with ??'s. Baffled, I changed them all in the form. But, thanks to this thread I am able to avoid this in the future!!
LisaSTL Wrote:
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> No and considering Sassie spell check only works
> about 1 time out of 10 and doesn't have a word
> count, composing in Word and pasting it into the
> form is necessary.


Same issue with Bare International. Just remember that the Word composition will seemingly appear as quote marks when you complete the Spell Check. You must always manually re-enter the quote marks before you make final submission.
Shoppers should not be berated or penalized in any way for Sassie's problems.

I've actually seen some shop instructions with the weird ? all over the place. Now I know why.
If you used the WordPad or NotePad applications, instead of word, to compose your narratives in, it might not cause such issues... those apps don't use smart quotes, that I know of. They're just plain-text apps.

I've seen the odd ? marks in instructions, too!

Practitioner of the Nerdly Arts.
Right now I can't give instructions on how to turn them off because my laptop is off being fixed and I'm using Open Office on this rental laptop. Up to Office 2007, they're relatively straightforward to turn off. With Office 2010, they're a pain in the butt to get to and I noticed that it didn't always shut them off, but seemed to be on a document by document basis, though I followed the instructions precisely.

Thanks Shop2Live for giving instructions on turning them off for Word 2003.
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