You need 76 specific interactions (Hotel/Casino) for $125..Shop Fee.

Is this typical for the Hotel/Casino shop? The list was massive and I just wondered if anyone has done a Hotel/Casino shop where you spend 2 days of interactions and one night (sleep)

There were (counted) 76 specific things you must do, regarding interactions and this does not count all the other things you must do, like examining the room, etc.. It is evaluating almost all the departments in the hotel. (most all, except Racebook, Food Court ) It suggests you start your shop LONG before you check into your room.....

I guess I liked this one best: "Clog your hotel room toilet and call the front desk for repair."

Or, this one: SHOPPER MAY NOT PLAY PROGRESSIVE JACKPOT SLOTS! IF THE SHOPPER HAS TOTAL WINS OF MORE THAN $500, THE EXCESS MUST BE RETURNED TO ******* ****** AND THEN TO THE CLIENT.'

I guess this shop has the potential to pay you about $600 bucks back, if you do everything right:

Reimbursement Include:
• 1 night accommodation
• $130.00 Maximum for meals
o $15.00 (for 2) - **** ****
o $45.00 (meal for 2, including gratuity) ******* ***** *******
o $70.00 (meal for 2, including gratuity ******** Seafood Restaurant
• $200.00 Gambling Allowance (3 Table Games Interactions & 3 Slot Interactions)
• $20.00 Bar Visit
• $15.00 Maximum for cash tips (Ex: $4.00

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Wow, that is a huge number of interactions for a one night stay!

Budgeting 24 hours on site, assuming 4 hours are spent doing the 3 meals, and figuring on 8 hours in the room at night, looks like you'd have about 12 hours to do 73 interactions. I think you'd have to win a good chunk of change to make it worth the time, cause the experience sure doesn't sound like my idea of fun.

i would rather chew on razor blades.

I've said it before but only an idiot would
return excess winnings to them. Any big
wins would of been on my own time and
not shop time.

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/25/2014 04:03AM by techman01.

A whole whopping $1.60 for each interaction.

We get $4 for one 20-second Cinnabon interaction.

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For purposes of comparison, if it helps, I've been paid the same amount for a resort stay that only required evaluating check-in/out, maintenance (1 call), general housekeeping, common areas (gift shop, pool, arcade) for general condition. That was it.

There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data.

Don't they just about give the rooms away now, if it's not the weekend?

I'd rather do other shops and then go there and relax and be a normal tourist and get a cut rate room rate.

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Three star rooms are going for $37 (Circus Circus). Four star (Tropicana) for $51.

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/25/2014 08:36AM by scanman1.

Interesting the total tip allowance is only $15!

Food tip on your own?

I wouldn't even take a second look at a shop like this. The tip is less than 12% assuming you spend the maximum allowed. This shop is just crazy but no doubt they are finding people to do them...

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/25/2014 12:34PM by jpgilham.

The shop listed would be on a 10 foot pole list. I have completed hotel only shops for that kind of pay, and also Casino only shops with much smaller interaction lists for the same fee or higher, plus it only took about 2.5 hours on site. Regarding jackpots/ wins: One Casino I visit regularly requires me to sign in with security as I enter. My players card is flagged, and the security department cameras and computers monitor what I do when I am there. Last December I hit a jackpot on a slot machine while completing a shop. Had taxes taken out on the spot, and a check cut. After finishing the shop, had to send the check back to the casino. The part of it that was disturbing was that the jackpot added about 30 minutes to my stay inside the casino, and then I had to spend another 15 minutes writing up the additional interaction.

Philadelphia Based, covering Eastern Pennsylvania, Delaware, New Jersey, Maryland

If this is for Service Sleuth, yes, you have to be prepared and VERY organized. You have to time the interactions carefully. The moment you sit down at a slot, you should request assistance right away to get that out of your way. Then HOPE that a cocktail waitress comes around soon because you will have to sit for an additional 15 minutes AFTER receiving your first drink. In that time, let's also hope you don't lose all your money. You will also have to get all names

That is just one interaction for the slots.

The interaction for the table will be a bit more difficult because you can't just bet one penny at a time. You will also need to get the names of the pit boss, the dealer, the cocktail server. Ask the dealer a question about promos, etc.

But I have come up quite a bit of money doing these shops because of the winnings

Good luck and enjoy!

This shop to me sounds HORRIBLE!

I would much rather (as other posters have said) just book a night there, RELAX and have NO interactions or shopping involved.

My BIG question is this: You hit $43,000.0000 (43 million) on Mega-Bucks Slot Machine and you get $500 back and send $42,000,500 back to them?

I think it said No Progressive machines but just think, what if a shopper did not read that part and hit the Mega-Bucks?

"crying"

At that point, I'd quit working for that MSC and the shop never happened.

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BBird0701 Wrote:
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> At that point, I'd quit working for that MSC and
> the shop never happened.

But "me" thinks they track your winnings through your Players Card, which they require you to get BEFORE gambling

For me, if I win $438,986.231.12 I want to keep EVERY DIME! No mystery shopping for me at a casino

Hotels only yes, casino NO!

I've done a whole whopping two casino shops. My first, the MGM Grand in Detroit, when it first opened and I was freshly 21. I think I came out a whole $20 ahead on that one. :eyeroll:

Second was a Native American casino where I came out about $140 or so ahead, but lost a number of things in my car somehow. (Valet with sticky fingers)... so... total bust there and the report was atrocious.

I had a Nissan car shop once where they were handing out scratch-off tickets when you came in the door. There were a number of prizes and "everyone was a winner!" I guess most people "won" money off their car purchase, but my ticket, I won a TV. MSC let me keep it.

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I actually think returning a jackpot to a casino is illegal and I would
refuse to do it and get the gaming commission involved if it was big enough.
Don't care if I was banned from doing shops from the msc. You return that
money to the casino, now the machine has not paid out as much as the
records show and therefore the hold percentage is actually higher then
being reported to the gaming commission, meanwhile the state gets
less taxes because of that win(states get % of machine hold) and the casino kept the money.

This would hit so many red flags so fast it would implode in their face.

SunnyDays2 Wrote:
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> I think it said No Progressive machines but just
> think, what if a shopper did not read that part
> and hit the Mega-Bucks?
>
>

"crying"

Then the shop would be rejected and the shop didn't happen.

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Plan the work. Work the plan.

This shop sounds so horrible to me and I love going to hotels and casinos. It does not sound like one bit of fun, only stress and trying to get all of those interactions. They give free rooms at the Indian casino near my home and I can keep any winnings ( not that I have ever won) but it may happen one day.

teriraia Wrote:
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> This shop sounds so horrible to me and I love
> going to hotels and casinos. It does not sound
> like one bit of fun, only stress and trying to get
> all of those interactions. They give free rooms
> at the Indian casino near my home and I can keep
> any winnings ( not that I have ever won) but it
> may happen one day.

Stay off the penny machines and you will win.

That's ridiculous.... I personally don't know anyone who would spend that much time in the hotel and not out exploring but OK. I think it's wrong to ask for the winnings to be handed over the client! I'd tell them to go fly a kite

Silver Certified ~ Shopping all of Toronto and beyond

I would think the fact that you are using their money to gamble with (they gave you a $200.00 allowance) would make this all legal for them to expect some or all of the money back. I would probably never do this shop but before assuming you can just say you used your nickle instead of theirs while on the job I would definitely check it out. Your risk/reward is a lot different when you are gambling with someone else's $200. No risk to your own money in this case.

Since the shopper may not play the progressive as part of the shop, a win on a progressive machine would not be considered part of the shop and the winnings would be for the shopper to keep. Shoppers do have a right to gamble on their own in the casino.

If the shopper was foolish enough to report the slot interaction where they received the jackpot as part of the shop and put in a claim for reimbursement on the bet, I guess there could be a case for the casino asking for the winnings back.

That said, this is a lot of work for a shop of that value. I have done casino shops with a few more interactions than this, but they gave me 3 nights at the hotel, meals throughout the stay and just under $1,000 for gambling, with the ability to keep all winnings (provided that I paid taxes on it).

Oh…and as I understand it, the $15 cash tips are for valet, bellman, housekeeping and such. Not for meals. The meals tips are included in the overall reimbursement for meals.

Well, you "could" get your Players Card, not insert it,.... play and hit the Megabucks, get paid out and THEN insert your Players Card and begin the Shop! (rich and smart...)

The Players Card tracks every penny you put inside the machine, every point you earn and any bonus play.

I'm not a gambler… what is a "progressive machine?"

I want to clarify a little bit more about my situation with a jackpot payment.
1- I have a Gaming license issued by the State.
2- I had signed in at the beginning of my 'shift', as such the management of the Casino knew I was on site. They could pull the tapes/ records and that would have compromised the relationship between the MSC and the Casino company as well as me.
3- I am required to use the Players card to document where I am located inside the casino.
4- Theoretically, I could have pocketed the winnings and bailed on the shop, but to me it was better for me to handle it the way I did.
5- Since that time, my shop fees from this particular MSC this year are more than double the jackpot I hit. I took the jackpot return as part of doing business. My professional integrity with regards to this has enhanced the relationship I have with the MSC.

Philadelphia Based, covering Eastern Pennsylvania, Delaware, New Jersey, Maryland

Then congrats you enjoy those shops..... Many of us will decline.
Personal opinion the casino is the original employer via engaging the shopping company and therefore they
Are well aware they are getting and requesting an abundance of information with a cap on winnings. They win.
No thanks.

jangler64 Wrote:
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> I want to clarify a little bit more about my
> situation with a jackpot payment.
> 1- I have a Gaming license issued by the State.
> 2- I had signed in at the beginning of my 'shift',
> as such the management of the Casino knew I was on
> site. They could pull the tapes/ records and that
> would have compromised the relationship between
> the MSC and the Casino company as well as me.
> 3- I am required to use the Players card to
> document where I am located inside the casino.
> 4- Theoretically, I could have pocketed the
> winnings and bailed on the shop, but to me it was
> better for me to handle it the way I did.
> 5- Since that time, my shop fees from this
> particular MSC this year are more than double the
> jackpot I hit. I took the jackpot return as part
> of doing business. My professional integrity with
> regards to this has enhanced the relationship I
> have with the MSC.

I have done several casinos for multiple MSC. What I have read sounds low pay for the effort. My latest was a 36 hour overnight in the hotel. It was a lot of work, but also fun. During that time, when I wasn't doing the interaction, I was working on the reports. It wasn't 76 different, and no plugging up a hotel room toilet. I have never heard of that, in any hotel or casino shop, or combined. I have always been satisfied with my pay and expenses, prior to doing the shop. Each shopper needs to know and then agree before agreeing to shop. They take excellent organization before. For my 36 hour one, I had a timeline already written so I knew where to shop and when. If I didn't have that done in advance, it would have been real hard to meet the strict timelines the MSC had for each venue. A smartphone is a life saver for note taking also. I hope that helps.

saacman5033 Wrote:
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> Wow, that is a huge number of interactions for a
> one night stay!
>
> Budgeting 24 hours on site, assuming 4 hours are
> spent doing the 3 meals, and figuring on 8 hours
> in the room at night, looks like you'd have about
> 12 hours to do 73 interactions. I think you'd
> have to win a good chunk of change to make it
> worth the time, cause the experience sure doesn't
> sound like my idea of fun.

It is not supposed to be fun it is supposed to be work. The only thing they can not do is whip you where it shows.

If I were expected to work for less than minimum wage, it better be fun! But I can see nothing appealing about this shop. Note that I do take on jobs for less than minimum wage, but they always include something to make it worth my while.

Piled Hip Deep, PHD Wrote:
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> The only thing they can not do is whip you
> where it shows.

Huh?

heartlandcanuck Wrote:
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> I'm not a gambler… what is a "progressive
> machine?"

A Progressive machine is where the jackpot starts at a certain amount, let's say $10,000, then, as each person plays it, the jackpot rises. It remains in a progressive state until it is hit (jackpot won). Then it reverts back to $10,000. They are very hard to hit so it takes a gazillion dollars before anyone wins

housingbubblesobstory Wrote:
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> I have done several casinos for multiple MSC.
> What I have read sounds low pay for the effort.
> My latest was a 36 hour overnight in the hotel.
> It was a lot of work, but also fun. During that
> time, when I wasn't doing the interaction, I was
> working on the reports. It wasn't 76 different,
> and no plugging up a hotel room toilet. I have
> never heard of that, in any hotel or casino shop,
> or combined. I have always been satisfied
> with my pay and expenses, prior to doing the shop.
> Each shopper needs to know and then agree before
> agreeing to shop. They take excellent
> organization before. For my 36 hour one, I had
> a timeline already written so I knew where to shop
> and when. If I didn't have that done in advance,
> it would have been real hard to meet the strict
> timelines the MSC had for each venue. A
> smartphone is a life saver for note taking also.
> I hope that helps.

Trust me, it is a REAL mystery shopping company (starts with 2 words) and they do ask you clog the toilet

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