@jrossetti wrote:

@bgriffin wrote:

Ok, so let me see if I understand this correctly:

Edlund schedules shoppers for the PPV events for jrossetti.
jrossetti makes the shoppers sign a non-compete clause to work for him so in turn they're not able to go work directly for Taylor and Associates.
So then the fee the shopper COULD have gotten from Taylor & Associates is now split between the shopper, Edlund, and jrossetti.

Did I get that right?

Once again you have no idea what you are even talking about. I am going to ask you once, nicely, to kindly shut up about what you don't even know about. Perhaps you should engage in a bit of reading and understanding because the non-compete clause doesn't prevent ANYONE from working FOR anyone that they want. I know dozens of people who do work for me or for robert. Why would I care if someone works for someone else?

If you continue to slander and misrepresent myself or my company this is going to get serious very fast.

A. Do not tell me to shut up.
B. I did not slander you
C. is that a threat? Please, follow up on it.

@bgriffin wrote:

Now I'm more confused. Is JRE jrossetti?

Yes. JRE stands for Joe Rossetti Enterprises.

bgriffin, I could always put you in touch with TA. I work for both! ;D

There is absolutely no way in hell.

At any rate, I still appreciate the feedback you (bgriffin) have given here and on the other thread about the PPV audits. I think you, and others who were curious about the audits, had very valid points, and definitely gave me food for thought.

I would also like to point out that I am an INDEPENDENT scheduling/editing company. I do NOT condone everything my clients say. But I do need to make a living.

Not that it's your business at all but there is nothing preventing myself or another person from working for other agencies who do audits. I do not just find jobs for Taylor and Associates. I conduct the same services for other groups through my own business as well.

Your understanding of what I ask people to sign is completely incorrect and Ive addressed this prior. I'll resate it here though in case people missed it. My non compete does not prevent you from doing these jobs for any other company.

You can talk trash about me or call me names or do the same to my business as protected speech, however you overstepped that bounds into making false accusations and statements that could hurt the reputation of the business and that is when you moved into slander. Please ask for clarification before making guarantees and assertions.

To make it 100% clear to anyone reading this. My non-compete clause prevents you from creating your own business doing what I am doing using information that I share or teach people who work for me. You can work for whomever you want, but possibly not on the same job at the same time. For example you could not do a job for TA and then do a job for me with another company at the same location. You could however do a job for TA and a competing company at a different location. YOu cannot make your own business for scheduling or running piracy operations without violating the non-compete however. So unless you planned on doing one of those two things, this affects people to exactly no degree.

Although I do understand that it might have been confusing for some people, what my shoppers did was send a note back and ask about it and I simply clarified. Why would I want to stop someone from making their money? That doesn't make any sense at all. Go out and make your money. I just won't teach someone everything needed to do what I do without protecting myself and it's there for that reason.



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JB- Sorry you did not get a hit. So far you are the only one, IMO that qualifies to perform this type of assignment.

Edlund- From some of the postings on both threads it is easy to see things stated by one poster do not add up. Hopefully you do not have him doing these stings as they will easily be tossed out in a challenge. A good lawyer can rip holes in those affidavits. Joe Gagliardi has every right to go after anyone stealing the signal, but he needs to have qualified reps in the field. Carpet bombing for fines will only last so long when there are shady enforcers out there.

jrossetti- "No company is going to shut down and kick out their customers for someone calling and asking if they are showing the fight."
If you knew what you were doing you would not call ahead to find out if the fight is being shown.

"I can recruit a shopper to do a job, but offer them less than the $250 and pocket the rest. One company I do stuff for doesn't care if he gets the other persons affidavit from me or from them. He'll pay whoever turns it in. "

Why would you submit an affidavit from someone else? Now that is fraud, and makes it easy to challenge any affidavit you or one of your "referrals" submits. Also if your name really is Joe Rossetti it is not too smart to post what you have been posting and that may speak volumes about your affidavits. Then again maybe you are that guy from Carthage or a new age Zelig.

@Robroy wrote:

JB- Sorry you did not get a hit. So far you are the only one, IMO that qualifies to perform this type of assignment.

Edlund- From some of the postings on both threads it is easy to see things stated by one poster do not add up. Hopefully you do not have him doing these stings as they will easily be tossed out in a challenge. A good lawyer can rip holes in those affidavits. Joe Gagliardi has every right to go after anyone stealing the signal, but he needs to have qualified reps in the field. Carpet bombing for fines will only last so long when there are shady enforcers out there.

jrossetti- "No company is going to shut down and kick out their customers for someone calling and asking if they are showing the fight."
If you knew what you were doing you would not call ahead to find out if the fight is being shown.

"I can recruit a shopper to do a job, but offer them less than the $250 and pocket the rest. One company I do stuff for doesn't care if he gets the other persons affidavit from me or from them. He'll pay whoever turns it in. "

Why would you submit an affidavit from someone else? Now that is fraud, and makes it easy to challenge any affidavit you or one of your "referrals" submits. Also if your name really is Joe Rossetti it is not too smart to post what you have been posting and that may speak volumes about your affidavits. Then again maybe you are that guy from Carthage or a new age Zelig.

**If you knew what you were doing you would not call ahead to find out if the fight is being shown.**

I do know what I am doing and rather than wasting my shoppers time by sending them somewhere that may have cancelled last minute (Which several places did on Saturday),sold out of tickets (which happened), has a technical failure(which also happened saturday), had a fire a few days prior and had to close (which also happened Saturday) I suggest that they call ahead before leaving so as they don't waste their most valuable resource, their time and money. I'm a shopper first, and I dont like to waste time. I like to waste other peoples times even less.

I GUESS it would totally make more sense for me to send 60 people out without verifying. I know all of the places ADVERTISED that they would show it prior, but that doesnt' actually mean that's what happens.



**Why would you submit an affidavit from someone else? Now that is fraud, and makes it easy to challenge any affidavit you or one of your "referrals" submits. Also if your name really is Joe Rossetti it is not too smart to post what you have been posting and that may speak volumes about your affidavits. Then again maybe you are that guy from Carthage or a new age Zelig. **

When I refer to turning in someone elses affidavit. I mean like one person collects the homework from the entire class and turns it in. It's not fraud and I would appreciate you not implying things like that. Every single report you do for an MSP is turned in by someone else. Jesus christ man. Can you please ask for clarification or at the very least accept my explanation when I explain it?



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jrossetti,

Please quote me the exact slanderous statement I have made.

@bgriffin wrote:

jrossetti,

Please quote me the exact slanderous statement I have made.

When you make statements regarding the jobs I assign or do or give information that hurts the trust and reputation of my company that is slander. I have told people specifically the policy regarding their identity and information being protected and not being given to the bar owners except in very specific cases and further explain what those are. You are directly contradicting that with statements that aren't true.

As far as we can tell you've never done a job, have a misunderstanding of the contractor documents, but you have a whole lot of things you want to talk about in regards to the job. It's only a problem when it's wrong information. Can we work something out where maybe I tell you how it works and you repeat that instead of what's going on now?

You sat and made a guarantee to people regarding their identity WILL be known. This will scare shoppers and make it more difficult for my business because you have given a damaging and false statement. There's no reason for this.



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Again. Please quote the exact slanderous statement I have made.

@Robroy wrote:

JB- Sorry you did not get a hit. So far you are the only one, IMO that qualifies to perform this type of assignment.

Robroy, thanks for the vote of confidence. Before my first signal audit, I had about a 20-minute phone call with Robert Taylor. Bob is great to talk with and he thoroughly explained what was expected/required and the pricing for each item. He taught me well and, as the song says, it's "nice work if you can get it." The biggest thing is remaining calm, cool, and collected while doing the work.

@EDS - Edlund Data Services wrote:

And also, the forms are reviewed BEFORE you get them notarized, to avoid being in the situation you described above, bgriffin.

So what we have here is someone who hasn't done the job, hasn't 'reviewed the job, but has all sorts of opinions about the documents and the job that she has never had or done?



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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA!
ROFLMAO!

Wrong on so many levels but absolutely hilarious.

For many years I worked for a programming provider in the Signal Integrity department, stinging and converting accounts to a commercial license. What you know fits into a thimble, so I do not have any questions for you.

@jrossetti wrote:

The 5 P's of the military also apply to mystery shopping. Proper planning prevents piss poor performance. Do your homework people.

But that's 6 P's.......

@Robroy wrote:

For many years I worked for a programming provider in the Signal Integrity department, stinging and converting accounts to a commercial license. What you know fits into a thimble, so I do not have any questions for you.

Good, then you stick to what your company requires, and I'll stick to mine and before you make another assertion about something being fraudulent you take the time to make sure what you are accusing me of is true or ask questions so you clearly understand. I feel it is more responsible to not throw words like that around considering the repercussion to that person if you're wrong.

It's not okay for you to tell other people the requirements for MY jobs or what does or doesn't constitute a hit or what is or isn't fraud when you don't know. How would you feel if I came to a group of people in your field and started saying false things about your company or your jobs and they were not true? Any person who listened and believed me would be hurting and damaging your company and reputation. That's not cool to do to you, and it's not cool for you to do to others.



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I'm just wondering if trolling for auditors on Reddit was as productive as trolling for auditors here.

@lc1309 wrote:

@jrossetti wrote:

The 5 P's of the military also apply to mystery shopping. Proper planning prevents piss poor performance. Do your homework people.

But that's 6 P's.......

LOL, You are my new best friend. I was wondering who and when that would be noticed.

Technically thought it's supposed to be piss-poor and I was being lazy.

@jrossetti wrote:

@lc1309 wrote:

@jrossetti wrote:

The 5 P's of the military also apply to mystery shopping. Proper planning prevents piss poor performance. Do your homework people.

But that's 6 P's.......

LOL, You are my new best friend. I was wondering who and when that would be noticed.

Technically thought it's supposed to be piss-poor and I was being lazy.

Ehh.....I don't know that you interpreted my tone correctly then.

@lc1309 wrote:

@jrossetti wrote:

@lc1309 wrote:

@jrossetti wrote:

The 5 P's of the military also apply to mystery shopping. Proper planning prevents piss poor performance. Do your homework people.

But that's 6 P's.......

LOL, You are my new best friend. I was wondering who and when that would be noticed.

Technically thought it's supposed to be piss-poor and I was being lazy.

Ehh.....I don't know that you interpreted my tone correctly then.

Your tone wouldn't have changed my response regardless of whether it was seething anger or sarcasm. All you did was mention how many P's were there.

Wow, such drama!!

I wish that the actual Mayweather-Pacquaio fight had been this interesting.

I do these audits all the time, and make a nice amount of cash. I've always worked for Robert Taylor and found him to be ethical, knowledgeable and an excellent communicator..... which, it appears, a few on this thread are NOT.

After doing this work intermittently for a couple of years now, let me say the following:

1. I've only had good experiences working for Taylor and Associates. Legitimate group, I get paid rapidly, and get good leads each time I go out. Likewise, I personally know the principals involved with JRE and EDS and think highly of them both.
2. Yes, you definitely do have to be comfortable out of your personal demographic. I have done these piracy audits in Little Havana, Detroit and Oakland - never had any problems, although once I have what I need I sure as hell do NOT linger. I'm a blonde middle aged Caucasian woman, but there are definitely ways to blend in, to enter an establishment and stay there long enough to make your observations and go.
3. I didn't like boxing and MMA when I started his gig, which is just a tiny offshoot of my overall business. Now that I understand (and appreciate!) the difference between a roundhouse punch and a jab, my affidavits are pretty perfect and do not need editing.
4. I was scared to death the first time I did one of these - but I like pushing my comfort zone and making good money. It's a good fit for me: I like it, am careful about my personal safety, and don't do stupid stuff.

Two edits because Siri hates me.

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@ColoKate63 wrote:

I personally know the principals involved with JRE and EDS and think highly of them both.

I honk highly of you too, ColoKate! ;-)


(I actually googled it, to see if it was one of those obscure idioms. But no. Just a typo, it would appear.)

Jrossetti - Would you be concerned if 1% of the day you did not have electricity? Out of 1,440 minutes, you would not have electricity 14 minutes. Probably OK, unless it was 14 minutes in a row and you were dependent upon electrically operated life support equipment.

Or maybe you could hold your breathe for 1% of the day? 14 minutes. In 10 second increments, lets see, there are 86,400 seconds in a day. 10 seconds at a time. Works out to holding your breathe 8,640 times. Big number.

Wait a minute, in another post, you said that you know "a TON of full time mystery shoppers," and I pointed out that that means either 2,000 or 2,240 Full Time Mystery shoppers. Lets assume that you do (I don't). So, 1% of 2,000 is 20 people. I guess it would be alright if 20 of them went to jail, as long as you weren't one of them. Wait, you said, "under 1%", so maybe you really meant 0.1%? That way only 2 of your 2000 Full Time Mystery Shopper acquaintances would be arrested.

I can assure you that I am not going to be of them.

@myst4au wrote:

Jrossetti - Would you be concerned if 1% of the day you did not have electricity? Out of 1,440 minutes, you would not have electricity 14 minutes. Probably OK, unless it was 14 minutes in a row and you were dependent upon electrically operated life support equipment.

Or maybe you could hold your breathe for 1% of the day? 14 minutes. In 10 second increments, lets see, there are 86,400 seconds in a day. 10 seconds at a time. Works out to holding your breathe 8,640 times. Big number.

Wait a minute, in another post, you said that you know "a TON of full time mystery shoppers," and I pointed out that that means either 2,000 or 2,240 Full Time Mystery shoppers. Lets assume that you do (I don't). So, 1% of 2,000 is 20 people. I guess it would be alright if 20 of them went to jail, as long as you weren't one of them. Wait, you said, "under 1%", so maybe you really meant 0.1%? That way only 2 of your 2000 Full Time Mystery Shopper acquaintances would be arrested.

I can assure you that I am not going to be of them.

Again, until you look up what an Idiom means, you and are are not going to be able to have much of a discourse because you're not even on the same page.

No one has provided any evidence that any mystery shopper in existence has ever been arrested for performing a mystery shop for loss prevention at a business. So I dont even know where your 1% number comes from.

Seriously though, you need to look up Idiom. Then we can talk more. I think it might help you be less confused.

Lastly, you wouldn't be one of them whether you did them, or you didn't, because it doesn't happen.

Also, under 1% is anything from never to .99% repeating. I can tell you from personal experience that I have had a hand in over 1,000 of these assignments and exactly none of them have ever had this happen.

I can tell you that Taylor and associates has done this for something like a decade and said he's had one person and he's done tens of thousands.

I hope this makes you less confused.

Also, to make life easier for you Ive printed the defintion of idiom so you won't have to think someone is talking about 2,000 people when they use an expression with "ton" in it. Maybe english is your second language, and I want to make sure someone explains so you dont look so ridiculous trying to use it as a number when it's nothing more than a simile for "a lot".

Common Idioms
Some idioms are used by most people that speak English; others are used by a more select group.

Common idioms that refer to people include:

A chip on your shoulder - means you are holding a grudge
High as a kite - means you are drunk or on drugs
Sick as a dog - means you are very ill
A ton of cattle - means that there are a lot of cattle



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@myst4au wrote:

Jrossetti - Would you be concerned if 1% of the day you did not have electricity? Out of 1,440 minutes, you would not have electricity 14 minutes. Probably OK, unless it was 14 minutes in a row and you were dependent upon electrically operated life support equipment.

Or maybe you could hold your breathe for 1% of the day? 14 minutes. In 10 second increments, lets see, there are 86,400 seconds in a day. 10 seconds at a time. Works out to holding your breathe 8,640 times.......

I think that we also need definitions for "Instant Expert," "101st Keyboard Ranger," and "Hysterical Hyperbole" because it appears that there is a a TON around here. All from folks who have absolutely no idea what they are talking about.

@ColoKate63 wrote:

@myst4au wrote:

Jrossetti - Would you be concerned if 1% of the day you did not have electricity? Out of 1,440 minutes, you would not have electricity 14 minutes. Probably OK, unless it was 14 minutes in a row and you were dependent upon electrically operated life support equipment.

Or maybe you could hold your breathe for 1% of the day? 14 minutes. In 10 second increments, lets see, there are 86,400 seconds in a day. 10 seconds at a time. Works out to holding your breathe 8,640 times.......

I think that we also need definitions for "Instant Expert," "101st Keyboard Ranger," and "Hysterical Hyperbole" because it appears that there is a a TON around here. All from folks who have absolutely no idea what they are talking about.

*In military cadence*

Keyboard ranger keyboard ranger, where have you been?
Around the wooooorld, and, back again!

Keyboard ranger keyboard ranger, how did ya go?
A c130...flying low!

I just find it ironic that the person who is throwing the most mud around on this forum thread can't understand a simple one page affidavit, doesn't know what a notary public is, hasn't successfully completed a single one of these assignments, but is of course a Self-Appointed Instant Expert on this work.

How does this poor person walk and chew gum at the same time? Drive and listen to the radio too? Forget the piracy assignments... simple daily life obviously poses insurmountable challenges at every turn for this poor soul.

You two should take that show on the road. You could make way more than you do on PPV audits.

You mean mud like the person who comes on here and then says things like this forum is full of idiots. And yet still is posting? Hrm.

I've been reporting him.

Definitely having aggiejim flashbacks here.