MF same restaurant, two different meal periods assigned on same date-- clerical or end of period rush?

So I put offers on some Market Force shops. It was the same location, one during the 6am-9am time frame and one during the 11am-8pm time frame. Both were accepted on the same day. I wrote to the help desk because my shops are tomorrow but nothing so far. I don't want to get one or both rejected!

Do they frown upon this and did someone make a clerical error or do they just need these shops DONE and let me have both? The location is just down the road and my offer for $25 each was accepted. It wouldn't be hard at all for me to go get breakfast, come home, write up the report, and then head out for lunch or dinner.

MegglesKat

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I'd be suprised if they got back to you so soon. I sent a question to them about a shop and it took almost a week to get a reply back.

If the shop instructions or cpi don't prohibit you from doing two then go for it. In any case i'd suggest saving the shop instructions and approvals for proof if they make a stink about it. Is the food any good where you are going ?

You can try calling the Help Desk in the morning. In the past they have been good about responding about assigned shops. If this was almost any other MSC my answer would be to just go for it.

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You seem to be fine, double check the guidelines as I am sure they have no restrictions related to shopping the same location for two different meal periods on the same day. Make An Offer is there for a reason. If it bothers you, next time choose different dates when applying

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There's absolutely no problem with this. In fact, MF encourages you to put in the report from the first shop before you sojourn forth to complete the second one! If this is the carhop place, you're actually allowed 3 shops in a row at the same location before you go into "rotation".

But if you're queasy about it, do the first one and check for an answer from HelpDesk before doing the second one.

Or, as I keep saying, call the scheduler!

@isaiah58 wrote:

You seem to be fine, double check the guidelines as I am sure they have no restrictions related to shopping the same location for two different meal periods on the same day. Make An Offer is there for a reason. If it bothers you, next time choose different dates when applying

They only had tomorrow listed as the date *shrugs* ? I hope they approve both. I can perform one around 7 AM and the other I can do around 5PM to spread it around some.

MegglesKat

@ceasesmith wrote:

There's absolutely no problem with this. In fact, MF encourages you to put in the report from the first shop before you sojourn forth to complete the second one! If this is the carhop place, you're actually allowed 3 shops in a row at the same location before you go into "rotation".

But if you're queasy about it, do the first one and check for an answer from HelpDesk before doing the second one.

Or, as I keep saying, call the scheduler!

I've called and left messages with the help desk but cannot get to a live person. They keep saying it will reply via email. They are the same place on the same day but two different times-- breakfast and lunch/dinner. I figure who ever approved my first offer must have approved my second too. If they don't approve both, then I'll just be out a few bucks if no one replies back before the evening tomorrow. I keep getting messages about high call volume due to time of month. I've never had them assign the same place twice on the same date before but if I do an AM shop and then go 7-8 hours later, it will likely be different associates, I hope!

MegglesKat

If the guidelines don't cover a same day restriction or other type of rotation you have two strong arguments if QC attempts to invalidate the second. If they do, don't hesitate to fight.

Very odd. If this is the client I think it is that was an error on someone's part. The earlier it is in the month the more days the client requires between shops. This time of the month it should be 1 day BETWEEN shops (not 1 one day and 1 next day) for each location (independent of who the shopper is). They are not supposed to even do back to back days until the 25th.

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I just checked my dashboard and they did the same thing with a sweet type of shop 0_o I think I may just proactively cancel one of each instead of waiting on a reply. hmmmm

MegglesKat

Call a scheduler, not the HelpDesk. In fact, the HelpDesk clearly states not to call or e-mail more than once; it just makes the backlog that much bigger.

In fact, you could do the breakfast shop, submit the report, then call the scheduler and make 100% sure you're good to go on the second one. Schedulers can immediately clear this up.

If you don't have any phone numbers for schedulers, PM me. I will state, though, the schedulers I work with might not cover the area you are in. I don't know what their geographical restrictions may be.

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/22/2017 02:49AM by ceasesmith.

I'm in KY near the VA border. I don't have any scheduler information at all for them. I just called back the phone numbers I always get calls from for MF -- which are about a half dozen that all route back to the main line that says press X number for _________.

MegglesKat

@ceasesmith wrote:

In fact, you could do the breakfast shop, submit the report, then call the scheduler and make 100% sure you're good to go on the second one. Schedulers can immediately clear this up.

Spectacular advice.

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The only hard rule that MF has is that you can't shop the same meal period twice on the same day for any client. Personally, I don't like to shop the same location twice within a week even if there's technically no rotation, but $25 compared to what MF normally pays would be enough to change my mind.

I don't think there will be an issue, as long as it is not the same meal period. As some one else mentioned, I would try to submit the first report, before completing the second shop, just to be safe.

Do you have 2 CPIs for the shop? Do you have a different assignment numbers? While there is two different meal times at the same place on the same day it seems to be quite normal for MF. And was this a "Make an Offer" shop? You were assigned. I would perform the breakfast shop, go home or wherever and submit the report, and continue your day. Return to the Retail at or around 630p to do the dinner shop, go home and submit the report and go to bed. Perform the dinner shop after 6 pm because the day shift would have been gone by that time. (It may be common for the Retail to see a customer two or three times a day, but to be on the safe side.) Go for it. two CPIs and two assignment IDs -------->go for it.

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/22/2017 03:25PM by sojo917.

@MountainCacher88 wrote:

I'm in KY near the VA border. I don't have any scheduler information at all for them. I just called back the phone numbers I always get calls from for MF -- which are about a half dozen that all route back to the main line that says press X number for _________.

Check your messages. I sent you some phone numbers.

Got up yesterday morning and the shops all had the option to move the date around a couple of dates after it was not there previously. I went ahead and proactively moved one of each shop type, but they did have different CPI's, different shop numbers, and were different meal periods. They were all "make an offer" that needed completed ASAP (I guess by the end of month).

MegglesKat

@DrSquash wrote:

The only hard rule that MF has is that you can't shop the same meal period twice on the same day for any client. Personally, I don't like to shop the same location twice within a week even if there's technically no rotation, but $25 compared to what MF normally pays would be enough to change my mind.

Hmm, I had wondered about no two shops in same meal period. So does that mean we can shop a burger place at 11am and an Asian cuisine place at 12pm so long as they are not for the same client ? I had always spaced them thinking we weren't supposed to shop the same meal periods for anyone. I even space out my sweets shops to avoid overlapping my burgers. Hmmmm.

MegglesKat

@MountainCacher88 wrote:

@DrSquash wrote:

The only hard rule that MF has is that you can't shop the same meal period twice on the same day for any client. Personally, I don't like to shop the same location twice within a week even if there's technically no rotation, but $25 compared to what MF normally pays would be enough to change my mind.

Hmm, I had wondered about no two shops in same meal period. So does that mean we can shop a burger place at 11am and an Asian cuisine place at 12pm so long as they are not for the same client ? I had always spaced them thinking we weren't supposed to shop the same meal periods for anyone. I even space out my sweets shops to avoid overlapping my burgers. Hmmmm.

It means if the 11am client shop is for breakfast then you can shop 12pm if the other client is for lunch. The clients don't matter, it's the meal period. You can not complete two of the same meal periods, regardless of the time or client.

@eyelove2shop wrote:

...............................................You can not complete two of the same meal periods, regardless of the time or client.

This statement is not true. While you are shopping specifically for MSC, you are not bind by the Clients desires unless the MSC has informed you of such. While MF prohibits us, the Shopper, from shopping two meals within the same time frames. If I want to preform a MF shop at 11am --2pm. I can still preform a iSecret meal shop between the same time. Cost of doing business.

BTW, breakfast to some Clients is at 6:00am, not necessarily 11 am.. (If you're eating breakfast at 11am, then you probably did not go to bed until 4am

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Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 03/27/2017 11:32PM by sojo917.

My post was with regards to the same MSC, specifically MF, as that's what the thread is about.

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/28/2017 12:11AM by eyelove2shop.

@DrSquash wrote:

The only hard rule that MF has is that you can't shop the same meal period twice on the same day for any client. Personally, I don't like to shop the same location twice within a week even if there's technically no rotation, but $25 compared to what MF normally pays would be enough to change my mind.

There is a difference in rules an MSC has for shoppers and what clients have for an MSC. This particular client has specific rules on how many days need to be between shops at a particular location independent of who the shopper is. IE you could not do a lunch at a particular location and then I do a breakfast the next day. Back to back days for this client in the past have not been allowed until very late in the month (regardless of it being the same or different shoppers). By late I mean like the 27th or something. The first half of the month I believe it is two or three days. It drips by one day on the 15th and then again at maybe the 25th. I can't remember the exact schedule but that is close.

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@bgriffin wrote:

@DrSquash wrote:

The only hard rule that MF has is that you can't shop the same meal period twice on the same day for any client. Personally, I don't like to shop the same location twice within a week even if there's technically no rotation, but $25 compared to what MF normally pays would be enough to change my mind.

There is a difference in rules an MSC has for shoppers and what clients have for an MSC. This particular client has specific rules on how many days need to be between shops at a particular location independent of who the shopper is. IE you could not do a lunch at a particular location and then I do a breakfast the next day. Back to back days for this client in the past have not been allowed until very late in the month (regardless of it being the same or different shoppers). By late I mean like the 27th or something. The first half of the month I believe it is two or three days. It drips by one day on the 15th and then again at maybe the 25th. I can't remember the exact schedule but that is close.

If MF's scheduler scheduled two shops on the same day for the same location, and the client has this rule, then that's on MF. They shouldn't penalize the shopper for their mistake. And if the rule goes out the window closer to the end of the month, then apparently MF is still doing it right.

That's exactly what I already stated earlier. A scheduler made a mistake in approving both shops for the same day.

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Also the rule does not go out the window completely. At no time does the client allow same day shops and this was done on the 20th or 21st, a week ago.

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I never received a reply but someone did send me a message with scheduler numbers for next time. I woke up to get my CPI's and see if there was any responses from MF and the shops were able to be rescheduled for the next day. I did one of each type one day, and one of each type the next. It looks like all went through just fine, though. Both locations tend to stay on the board for a long time if I'm out of rotation and as it nears the last week of the month, they'll pop up for me. I get that a lot out here.

MegglesKat

When they pop up like that for you, that's when you want to ask for that bonus. If they need them done badly enough to break rotation, then you deserve a bonus!

Once on the old site and before Make an Offers were popping up I had a Fast Casual that I did for lunch, went tot work and MF called me. I thought they had an issue with the shop, but no it was a scheduler offering a bonus to do a fast casual near closing.....same location for a bonus That day if possible.
I told them I just did the shop there for lunch, he said it didn't matter. I still had to decline for that day since I was going to be working the rest of the day and I'm not sure anyone should eat that many fries in a day. So I scheduled i for the next day.
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