BWW Shop Questions

I have a dining room shop scheduled for Tuesday. My last shop there was over a year ago. On my shop board, there are no guidelines. Have the requirements for the shop changed since 1/2016?

The second question is about the arrival time. The shop times are 5pm-8pm. Can I arrive 10 minutes earlier? What about sitting at the bar until 5pm? Will either of those get the shop rejected?

Third question is about the menu. I understand shoppers cannot get special items, such as crispy fries, but can they get a dry seasoning on the chips or something like that?

I posed these questions to the scheduler and haven't gotten a response yet.

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When you self assigned the shop the shop assignment includes a Confirm link on your job board. After you confirm you have full access to the materials.

The time requirements are stated as "must be conducted between.." on the survey you have access to. Part of your evaluations include the greeting and seating steps. Since a dinner shop can not be performed at the bar, it does not make sense to circumvent things by sitting at the bar if you interpret the guidelines to not allow arriving before 5pm

The ordering requirements are very clearly laid out on the survey and guidelines, including the new picture of the receipt requirements.

If the dry rub is not a regular option to add to something, do not add it as it could be seen as a special order.

I would GeoVerify to be safe, even if the requirement is not currently mentioned.

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/22/2017 01:35AM by isaiah58.

@isaiah58 wrote:

When you self assigned the shop the shop assignment includes a Confirm link on your job board. After you confirm you have full access to the materials.\

Isaiah is correct about the way Sassie works, and there is full access to any available materials once a shopper confirms. However, Honny is correct that she cannot view the Guidelines. The Guidelines for the BWW assignments for next week have not been loaded, so that is why she cannot view them.

I did a dinner shop earlier this month and the guidelines are the same. Remember to get an Appetizer AND an entree or wing order. Tuesday is bone-in wing special night. Thursday is boneless wing special night. I agree about not sitting at the bar. Since the report requires you to start no earlier than 5PM and you must report on how you are greeted and seated, if you sat at the bar before 5PM, you would need to exit the location and re-enter so you could properly report the 5PM green/seat. That seems extremely awkward. I would probably not even think about entering before 5Pm and sitting at the bar.

The new survey is up, I assigned two of the shops yesterday. After confirming I opened the survey. I was able to see the new receipt picture requirement being discussed.

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The reason I know Honny can't see them is that I can't see them either. I have two shops scheduled, both confirmed, and I can view the Comments and the Report. The Guidelines are not available. The picture requirement is covered in the Report form.

Guidelines are not currently a bullet point in the shopper's log. They are accessed from the survey. Geo is not currently a requirement. Arriving for a 5 pm shop earlier than 5 pm is a violation. I suggest waiting in your car, not at the bar. No sides or add ons allowed, and no special items, such as extra crispy wings. I would not push my luck by requesting preparation of anything differing from the menu. From eating there on my own time and dime, I know that customers can order their wings in all flats or all drums, and can mix and match sauces and dry seasonings. I consider those to be special requests, and do not do that on a shop.

@Mert wrote:

Guidelines are not currently a bullet point in the shopper's log. They are accessed from the survey. Geo is not currently a requirement. Arriving for a 5 pm shop earlier than 5 pm is a violation. I suggest waiting in your car, not at the bar. No sides or add ons allowed, and no special items, such as extra crispy wings. I would not push my luck by requesting preparation of anything differing from the menu. From eating there on my own time and dime, I know that customers can order their wings in all flats or all drums, and can mix and match sauces and dry seasonings. I consider those to be special requests, and do not do that on a shop.

Thanks for the clarification, I overlooked the link. They also now state the latest you can start the shop. I am going to play it safe and still GeoVerify.

The new guidelines are more comprehensive yet not complete. We need to read the initial instructions, the survey and the guidelines to fully clarify everything.

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Slightly off topic, but I've gotten in the habit of Geoverifying everything so that I never forget. If I always do it, I'll never miss it when I need it.

Am I understanding some of you correctly that you're suggesting one can only order an entree and an app for dinner or an entree only if it is a lunch shop? If so, I'm trying to figure out where you're getting that.

I almost always order a side salad or other side and, at lunch, an app. Never had a shop rejected, including the lunch shop I did Friday where I ordered wings and a salad. It's been approved with a 10/10.

For the dinner shop I order the mozzarella sticks (app) the southwestern black bean burger (entree) and an alcoholic drink. I always come under reimbursement.

Don't shop before the time. As stated, they have specific questions for your greeting and seating area.

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/22/2017 12:59PM by eyelove2shop.

Not a response to your questions, Honny, but just wanted to say that Tuesdays (traditional) and Thursdays (boneless) are half off wing days!

$4 appetizers everyday for happy hour and other times. Look for/ask for those $4 appetizers.

You can literally have a feast for the reimbursement amount if you eat on Tues/Thur + during $4 appetizer hours.

@whiterosie wrote:

Am I understanding some of you correctly that you're suggesting one can only order an entree and an app for dinner or an entree only if it is a lunch shop? If so, I'm trying to figure out where you're getting that.

I almost always order a side salad or other side and, at lunch, an app. Never had a shop rejected, including the lunch shop I did Friday where I ordered wings and a salad. It's been approved with a 10/10.

We are passing on the current minimum ordering requirements. There are no restrictions on adding more stuff outside of adding items to go.

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Thanks everyone!

I ended up doing the shop today because tomorrow is a game day and the restaurant is at the stadium.

I walked there from work and ended up getting there at 5pm on the dot. I GV'd from the lobby. Had I gotten there much earlier, I would have waited at the bar until 5pm, then sat in the dining room.

The guidelines were available from the survey.

I did the wings and shareables.

After all of that, I made a rookie mistake: I left with the wrong receipt! I got the credit card receipt instead of the itemized. I had to call them and have them text it me the correct one.

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Whiterosie, dinner guidelines state "You must order an entrée or wings AND appetizer/sharable (you MUST order from the sharable list. - you may NOT order a side or add on -they are NOT sharables)." Lunch guidelines seem to be less restrictive "You must order an entrée or wings".

On lunch shops, I have ordered the required, plus whatever I/we wanted. I haven't strayed from the dinner guidelines.

@whiterosie wrote:

Am I understanding some of you correctly that you're suggesting one can only order an entree and an app for dinner or an entree only if it is a lunch shop? If so, I'm trying to figure out where you're getting that.

I almost always order a side salad or other side and, at lunch, an app. Never had a shop rejected, including the lunch shop I did Friday where I ordered wings and a salad. It's been approved with a 10/10.

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/23/2017 02:08AM by Mert.

I have a question about BWW.

Are the tall tables typically located in "the bar area" considered to be "the bar" for the purposes of this shop? The reason I ask is because the guidelines state that we shouldn't sit at the bar.

But, what about those tall tables NEAR the bar, but not part of the actual bar itself?

@shoptastic wrote:

I have a question about BWW.

Are the tall tables typically located in "the bar area" considered to be "the bar" for the purposes of this shop? The reason I ask is because the guidelines state that we shouldn't sit at the bar.

But, what about those tall tables NEAR the bar, but not part of the actual bar itself?

The guidelines cover that.

I am not trying to be a jerk. I am challenging you to read the instructions, guidelines and survey. Otherwise you will make mistakes. The instructions change often.

I need to add one more thing, since someone keeps mentioning doing something against the instructions: DO NOT ARRIVE EARLY AND SIT AT THE BAR. You would have to then lie about some aspects of your shop.

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/23/2017 11:57PM by isaiah58.

I have done a few lunch shops for them in the past and have ordered a salad. I can't remember the name but it was a large salad, not a side. I prefer this over the wings. If I do another lunch shop in the future, does anyone think it would be a problem to order this instead of wings?

@queenie1 wrote:

I have done a few lunch shops for them in the past and have ordered a salad. I can't remember the name but it was a large salad, not a side. I prefer this over the wings. If I do another lunch shop in the future, does anyone think it would be a problem to order this instead of wings?

As long as you order an entree, which the main salads are, yes you can.

FWIW, as long as you order the requirements you can add whatever you want. I take my spouse on the dinner shops. I cover the requirements, she orders anything she wants.

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@isaiah58 wrote:

@shoptastic wrote:

I have a question about BWW.

Are the tall tables typically located in "the bar area" considered to be "the bar" for the purposes of this shop? The reason I ask is because the guidelines state that we shouldn't sit at the bar.

But, what about those tall tables NEAR the bar, but not part of the actual bar itself?

The guidelines cover that.

I am not trying to be a jerk. I am challenging you to read the instructions, guidelines and survey. Otherwise you will make mistakes. The instructions change often.

I need to add one more thing, since someone keeps mentioning doing something against the instructions: DO NOT ARRIVE EARLY AND SIT AT THE BAR. You would have to then lie about some aspects of your shop.

I read the guidelines and checked my last survey and don't see anything about the tall tables near the bar, Isaiah58. I could be missing something.

But, as of the moment, all I see is that we must dine in the dining room and not the bar.

I've never dined in the tall tables near the bar, b/c I've always been afraid it counted as the bar and also not the dining room. But, I've wondered in the past whether those tall tables counted as part of the "dining room" or not? Apologies to all if I'm missing something. It might seem a little silly to quibble about or second guess the meaning of "bar" and "dining room," but I do like the tall tables and wouldn't mind eating there some day. And they seem to maybe straddle the line between "bar" and "dining room."

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/24/2017 12:15AM by shoptastic.

The guidelines specifically answer this question.

@shoptastic wrote:

I have a question about BWW.

Are the tall tables typically located in "the bar area" considered to be "the bar" for the purposes of this shop? The reason I ask is because the guidelines state that we shouldn't sit at the bar.

But, what about those tall tables NEAR the bar, but not part of the actual bar itself?

I sat in the bar at a table, as opposed to the bar top. That was acceptable. I received a 10 on my report.

"I told myself to quit you; but I don't listen to drunks." -Chris Stapleton

Can you order a drink// I didn't see it in the guidelines and I am doing one tomorrow.

@Insight wrote:

Can you order a drink// I didn't see it in the guidelines and I am doing one tomorrow.

You can order a drink and the report has some questions about your adult beverage. There may be a limit on how many beverages, so best to review the guidelines to be sure.

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When they say "bar", they don't mean "belly up to the bar", they mean in the bar. The tall tables are in the bar. I suspect, had they know someone sat there, the shop would be invalidated.

@Insight wrote:

Can you order a drink// I didn't see it in the guidelines and I am doing one tomorrow.

You can order whatever you want as long as you get one beverage and one entree/wings, and if you got at dinner an appetizer. You can't get more than one drink though, and the reimbursement really isn't enough to cover one.

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/24/2017 05:02AM by weatherman2111.

@spicy1 wrote:

When they say "bar", they don't mean "belly up to the bar", they mean in the bar. The tall tables are in the bar. I suspect, had they know someone sat there, the shop would be invalidated.

Direct from the guidelines I and others have highly recommended reading:

"YOU MAY NOT DINE IN AT THE BAR RAIL – YOU MUST DINE IN THE DINING ROOM OR TABLES WITHIN THE BAR"

The guidelines can change. This rule has been around for a while.

My posts are solely based on my opinions and for my entertainment, contact a professional if you need real advice.

When you get in debt you become a slave. - Andrew Jackson

I haven't completed one n a long time so I hadn't read that new ability to SIT IN THE BAR. Thanks for the QUOTE. That's really good news for people who want to SIT IN THE BAR

Always assume that guidelines may differ by region, shop type, and other reasons. I check them every time.

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You should assume that also, before being so scathing regarding others and READING THE GUIDELINESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

@isaiah58 wrote:

Always assume that guidelines may differ by region, shop type, and other reasons. I check them every time.

It could be a regional difference, because the wording of the guidelines is different in my copy (granted it was a copy from my April shop, so maybe May is different now).

@isaiah58 wrote:

@spicy1 wrote:

When they say "bar", they don't mean "belly up to the bar", they mean in the bar. The tall tables are in the bar. I suspect, had they know someone sat there, the shop would be invalidated.

Direct from the guidelines I and others have highly recommended reading:

"YOU MAY NOT DINE IN AT THE BAR RAIL – YOU MUST DINE IN THE DINING ROOM OR TABLES WITHIN THE BAR"

The guidelines can change. This rule has been around for a while.

My guidelines don't say anything about the bar rail or tables within the bar at all. It uses the terms "dining room" and "the bar" only.

Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 05/25/2017 05:00AM by shoptastic.

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