LUXURY HOTEL shops, how much do you get paid and how much free time do you actually have? Why bother?
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Come on, people, let's not fight each other. Let's instead demand to the MSCs that they offer a better pay or/and better working conditions (example: offer one extra night in the hotel for the same amount of report so we can focus on the reports without being frantic). OK, I can hear you, there is no shortage of gullible shoppers who will do those reports for pennies. Still, if we don't ask, we will NEVER get better treatment.
@abclaudia wrote:
Come on, people, let's not fight each other. Let's instead demand to the MSCs that they offer a better pay or/and better working conditions (example: offer one extra night in the hotel for the same amount of report so we can focus on the reports without being frantic). OK, I can hear you, there is no shortage of gullible shoppers who will do those reports for pennies. Still, if we don't ask, we will NEVER get better treatment.
I have one client who gives me an extra night free for myself and my guest so that I can type the report. It’s one of my favorite jobs. I’ve done it twice now. They also include airfare for two.
Which company does that? Tried to PM you but messaging is not working for me.
I'm just curious. If *you* knew about such jobs and there were people who didn't.....would you tell them???
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Yeah but I'm guessing this shop is 1 location that is shopped quarterly and has a yearly rotation. That means if more than 4 people know about this shop then it hurts how often you can do it. Even if it's shopped monthly that's 12 people.
I might understand if we're talking about Holiday Inns that are on every corner. I doubt we are.
I might understand if we're talking about Holiday Inns that are on every corner. I doubt we are.
There are reasons that a body stays in motion
At the moment only demons come to mind
At the moment only demons come to mind
You’re correct as usual. It’s one international location. They don’t need additional people. If they did, the company already has plenty of people up choose from. If those of us who are in the rotation, mess up somehow, I supppse they could ask us for referrals.@bgriffin wrote:
Yeah but I'm guessing this shop is 1 location that is shopped quarterly and has a yearly rotation. That means if more than 4 people know about this shop then it hurts how often you can do it. Even if it's shopped monthly that's 12 people.
I might understand if we're talking about Holiday Inns that are on every corner. I doubt we are.
Almost 20 years of doing this is what got me into the rotation in the first place.
@SoCalMama wrote:
You’re correct as usual.
FINALLY somebody figures it out!
There are reasons that a body stays in motion
At the moment only demons come to mind
At the moment only demons come to mind
Here we go. But do you know what quantified means
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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/14/2018 05:24AM by LisaSTL.
*Raising hand quietly* one of my all time favorite shops that I have done quite a few times is a 50% off hotel in Hawaii. It is literally 5% of the work of a regular hotel shop that pays a fee and/or travel. I can do it and have a real vacation and it is a great property, on my favorite beach, with good food and beautiful rooms. I'm not at all embarrassed or think I have been taken because it only paid 50% of my total cost of the room. It also paid 100% of the cost of my spa, and most meals. Again for 5% of the total work of a typical 2 night hotel room. Love it, and will do it again in a heartbeat.
I've done the International Hotel that SoCalMama refers to that pays the third night to write the report and covers airfare for me and a guest. It's also in a great location, with beautiful rooms and lovely meals. It has a nice fee and I would do it again too.
It really isn't a contest at all. Do what works for you and what you enjoy. If you don't like hotel shops - don't force it.
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I've done the International Hotel that SoCalMama refers to that pays the third night to write the report and covers airfare for me and a guest. It's also in a great location, with beautiful rooms and lovely meals. It has a nice fee and I would do it again too.
It really isn't a contest at all. Do what works for you and what you enjoy. If you don't like hotel shops - don't force it.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/14/2018 08:59AM by MickeyB.
@abclaudia wrote:
Which company does that? Tried to PM you but messaging is not working for me.
you've already made it adamantly clear that you hate these shops so why would she help you?
Because If I had 2 nights instead of one and airfare, I would not hate them. Why the hostility?
@abclaudia, I had that 1-night vs. 2-nights talk with Adam from TrueGuest/5D years ago when he asked why I no longer wanted to work for them. Nothing will change there. Your best bet is to walk away and save your energy for finding the companies that will offer a better experience.
@MickeyB wrote:
*Raising hand quietly* one of my all time favorite shops that I have done quite a few times is a 50% off hotel in Hawaii. It is literally 5% of the work of a regular hotel shop that pays a fee and/or travel. I can do it and have a real vacation and it is a great property, on my favorite beach, with good food and beautiful rooms. I'm not at all embarrassed or think I have been taken because it only paid 50% of my total cost of the room. It also paid 100% of the cost of my spa, and most meals. Again for 5% of the total work of a typical 2 night hotel room. Love it, and will do it again in a heartbeat.
I've done the International Hotel that SoCalMama refers to that pays the third night to write the report and covers airfare for me and a guest. It's also in a great location, with beautiful rooms and lovely meals. It has a nice fee and I would do it again too.
It really isn't a contest at all. Do what works for you and what you enjoy. If you don't like hotel shops - don't force it.
Thanks for confirming.
One of my neighbors has an extra estate in Hawaii and I really need to get out there and enjoy it again. 50% off isn’t bad, but I have a zillion hotel points, So I’m looking at 100% off if I’m not shopping. I went to Vegas two weeks ago and did exactly 0 shops . It was weird.
PS you can thank me for that extra night. I type soooo slowly it’s a crime.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/15/2018 12:25AM by SoCalMama.
bgriff, the hotel industry isn't hurting for more shoppers, but not all shoppers want to do that kind or work. Every shopper has (or will have) a niche that they stick to.
@bgriffin wrote:
Yeah but I'm guessing this shop is 1 location that is shopped quarterly and has a yearly rotation. That means if more than 4 people know about this shop then it hurts how often you can do it. Even if it's shopped monthly that's 12 people.
I might understand if we're talking about Holiday Inns that are on every corner. I doubt we are.
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Trying to find out which companies are those, because so far the ones I have tried were miserable.
@MickeyB wrote:
*Raising hand quietly* one of my all time favorite shops that I have done quite a few times is a 50% off hotel in Hawaii. It is literally 5% of the work of a regular hotel shop that pays a fee and/or travel. I can do it and have a real vacation and it is a great property, on my favorite beach, with good food and beautiful rooms. I'm not at all embarrassed or think I have been taken because it only paid 50% of my total cost of the room. It also paid 100% of the cost of my spa, and most meals. Again for 5% of the total work of a typical 2 night hotel room. Love it, and will do it again in a heartbeat.
Thank you for providing CONTEXT and your insight, Mickey.
"Not going to happen. There is no shortage of hotel shoppers."
If you can believe the financial press, most Americans are living paycheck to paycheck.
If all these shoppers can front the luxury hotel fees and charges and float them until getting paid, maybe thing's aren't that bad. Likely the bills come due before shopper payment.
If you can believe the financial press, most Americans are living paycheck to paycheck.
If all these shoppers can front the luxury hotel fees and charges and float them until getting paid, maybe thing's aren't that bad. Likely the bills come due before shopper payment.
Get a digital voice recorder and tuck it in your bra or pocket. Mine downloads through a built in flash drive. It is easy to get the conversations transcribed and the timing is visible in your computer's sound player. It is legal to record any conversation you are party to for verification purposes.
@anitaplatt wrote:
Get a digital voice recorder and tuck it in your bra or pocket. Mine downloads through a built in flash drive. It is easy to get the conversations transcribed and the timing is visible in your computer's sound player. It is legal to record any conversation you are party to for verification purposes.
That's 100% not true.
Geez.
@SoCalMama wrote:
@anitaplatt wrote:
Get a digital voice recorder and tuck it in your bra or pocket. Mine downloads through a built in flash drive. It is easy to get the conversations transcribed and the timing is visible in your computer's sound player. It is legal to record any conversation you are party to for verification purposes.
That's 100% not true.
Geez.
Depends on the state. NC allows recording with only one party agreement.
@anitaplatt wrote:
It is legal to record any conversation you are party to for verification purposes.
@SoCalMama wrote:
That's 100% not true.
Well it's OK in 39 states, but one of the states with legal issues is NV which brings in a whole different level of legality, so I'm going to rate that statement 20% false. Perhaps 25% if we want to go by population.
However, you will be 100% wrong doing it in those locations....and you will be 100% stupid taking any legal advice from an anonymous person on this forum. Do the research on your own before jumping to conclusions about what is legal.
(edited for posting before coffee)
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@BarefootBliss wrote:
"Not going to happen. There is no shortage of hotel shoppers."
If you can believe the financial press, most Americans are living paycheck to paycheck.
If all these shoppers can front the luxury hotel fees and charges and float them until getting paid, maybe thing's aren't that bad. Likely the bills come due before shopper payment.
Just because "most" American's are living paycheck to paycheck doesn't mean all are. There are still a ton of people out there with the means to do this work and compared to the size of that pool, there are relatively few jobs.
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Seriously, nobody cares that you're offended.
Seriously, nobody cares that you're offended.
I feel like there's got to be more to this 2-party consent law than we may think. Everyone is recording everything nowadays. Anytime anyone holds up a phone in a park to record their kid playing, they're recording other people. Is that illegal?
It just can't be this cut and dry.
It just can't be this cut and dry.
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Seriously, nobody cares that you're offended.
Seriously, nobody cares that you're offended.
Of course, I agree...that group includes most of us here, but it strikes me that the category of people in a position to do these visits is not a huge demographic. I am open to being wrong about that - I have no dog in the fight, just talking out loud.
To make a business case for working luxury hotel shops, it seems one must:
- have some schedule flexibility
- have literary and device skills
- have good credit and the ability to handle substantial cash flow & float
- be a person who can justify the time commitment (in other words, for the truly wealthy, they can just easily pay for a luxury room, not have to work for it with a side gig).
- not have fabulous wealth.
- or be wealthy, but get kicks out of frugality
My hunch is this is a niche field for people like school teachers, writers, authors, editors, government workers, retirees...less common for college students, busy business owners, executives, people with serious debt.
To make a business case for working luxury hotel shops, it seems one must:
- have some schedule flexibility
- have literary and device skills
- have good credit and the ability to handle substantial cash flow & float
- be a person who can justify the time commitment (in other words, for the truly wealthy, they can just easily pay for a luxury room, not have to work for it with a side gig).
- not have fabulous wealth.
- or be wealthy, but get kicks out of frugality
My hunch is this is a niche field for people like school teachers, writers, authors, editors, government workers, retirees...less common for college students, busy business owners, executives, people with serious debt.
@BarefootBliss wrote:
My hunch is this is a niche field for people like school teachers, writers, authors, editors, government workers, retirees...
I don't know why you would include government workers, but in my experience, artists are some of the best hotel evaluators out there. They have flexible schedules, lots of free time, are used to playing a part and working hard for little or no pay at times, and enjoy the finer things in life.
School teachers make good guests because they may have the summer off....and can usually proofread well.
Government workers probably because the amount of leave they accrue is substantially higher than a typical job (at least here - one of my family members is up to six paid weeks per year; I think that's outrageous).
I do the occasionally luxury hotel or resort (though I have yet to even be considered for the Maldives). In my experience, the better companies do everything they can to get the payment to the shopper before the next billing cycle, they provide a fee that compensates for the credit card charges, or the resort reverses the charges. The only time I really got screwed was on an exchange rate that fluctuated widely.
I do the occasionally luxury hotel or resort (though I have yet to even be considered for the Maldives). In my experience, the better companies do everything they can to get the payment to the shopper before the next billing cycle, they provide a fee that compensates for the credit card charges, or the resort reverses the charges. The only time I really got screwed was on an exchange rate that fluctuated widely.
"Let me offer you my definition of social justice: I keep what I earn and you keep what you earn. Do you disagree? Well then tell me how much of what I earn belongs to you - and why?” ~Walter Williams
<Government workers probably because the amount of leave they accrue is substantially higher than a typical job (at least here - one of my family members is up to six paid weeks per year; I think that's outrageous). >
Yes, public sector employees generally have more leave and schedule flexibility than their private sector peers. Further, similar to educators, their compensation is back-ended, so some appreciate making a bit more on the front end through side gigs, as long as there's no conflict of interest.
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Yes, public sector employees generally have more leave and schedule flexibility than their private sector peers. Further, similar to educators, their compensation is back-ended, so some appreciate making a bit more on the front end through side gigs, as long as there's no conflict of interest.
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what companies offer overnight hotel shops?
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