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I mean, I’m a full blooded Filipino-American.

The times I do feel I get different treatment are when I’m shopping in towns where Asians are in general, the minority. Due to my age, I’ve also stuck out like a sore thumb when I’ve shopped many 5 star hotels or high end bars. Otherwise, I haven’t had any bad issues due to my race. In the end, that’s just my perception anyways, and usually never gets reported as that’s mainly a subjective view from me.

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One of the very top "lifestyle shoppers" is originally from China. I have met her at conferences. MSCs literally paid her to fly from FL to the west coast to do their shops. She sometimes posts on the forum, but not often, and her forum name would not be any hint of her ethnic origins.

@Shopper9 wrote:

@Tarantado wrote:

I mean, I’m a full blooded Filipino-American.

The times I do feel I get different treatment are when I’m shopping in towns where Asians are in general, the minority. Due to my age, I’ve also stuck out like a sore thumb when I’ve shopped many 5 star hotels or high end bars. Otherwise, I haven’t had any bad issues due to my race. In the end, that’s just my perception anyways, and usually never gets reported as that’s mainly a subjective view from me.

As you might know, I'm East Asian, and ethnic Chinese, at that. We definitely get stereotyped, stigmatized, and treated way worse than Filipinos, at least in my area. There's a wide range of people who look ethnic Chinese, with some looking very respectable, cool, educated, and rich, and others looking less so. I definitely get the worst treatment and the greatest mis-typing due to various factors.

I'm not familiar with other East Asian-looking shoppers, and I wonder if there are very few. Maybe they have horrible experiences like I do, so maybe they stop doing it quickly. People in my area have very a very strange attitude towards people who look Chinese, though there's a wide range of experiences from ethnic Chinese around me.

What an incredibly strange thing to say.
Perhaps a therapist might help you?
You might consider moving if it's that bad?

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Wow, just wow.

This is a great question, especially this month! I'm curious why you deleted your comments.

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Why is that strange if that is how he feels?

@SoCalMama wrote:

What an incredibly strange thing to say.
Perhaps a therapist might help you?
You might consider moving if it's that bad?

@HonnyBrown wrote:

Why is that strange if that is how he feels?

@SoCalMama wrote:

What an incredibly strange thing to say.
Perhaps a therapist might help you?
You might consider moving if it's that bad?

This comment that I bolded I find to be strange:
We definitely get stereotyped, stigmatized, and treated way worse than Filipinos, at least in my area.

I work with no less than 50% Asian people. Vietnamese, Philippinos, Chinese, hmm I think that's it. I have not heard of any sort of specific issue against Chinese people versus any other Asian person. My co-worker, ethically Chinese, would tell you first-hand that he is not now nor ever has had any issues. At least two of my coworkers were refugees (imagine the worst situation you can, and then it's worse than that).

I'm curious to know where in California we have a special city/area to stigmatize Chinese people?

This is Asian Pacific Heritage month. Is that what you meant, HonnyBrown?

Here, in small town America that is dominated by a small university, we have people from Asia and other regions who are studying, researching, teaching, working, and generally being productive and well behaved. They are welcome everywhere, as far as I know.

Why would your coworkers vent something like that to you? Even if you asked them directly, would they tell you what they deal with? Does that make sense?

I agree with HonnyBrown. Ppl generally don't include this in normal conversations especially to friends who belong to a different ethnic background. @Shopper9..You don't have to delete your comments. There is nothing wrong with expressing your opinion and if that's how you feel.

@HonnyBrown wrote:

Why would your coworkers vent something like that to you? Even if you asked them directly, would they tell you what they deal with? Does that make sense?

Yes they absolutely would tell me.
As a matter of fact at the beginning of the Asian Asian hate situation one of them specifically said, “ I have never experienced that.” His mother was a refugee, along with the rest of their family, and he spoke to me in depth about some of the atrocities that they experienced their overseas and the refugee camps.
Some of my coworkers are first generation. Their parents generally speak English, and their grandparents don’t speak any English.

I work next to them nine hours out of the day at this point, 5 to 7 days a week, so yes we do talk about these things. We see each other more than we see our own families, so we do talk a lot. We might lose our minds if we talked about science and chemicals and pathogens all day long?

That is exactly what I meant, SEL.

In your second paragraph, you say, "...as far as I know." I ask of you the same as I ask of SCM: how would you know otherwise?

Are people wearing brightly colored t-shirts that say, "I'm X-ethnicity and I have been stigmatized!"

Things typically are not that blatant.

@Shop-et-al wrote:

This is Asian Pacific Heritage month. Is that what you meant, HonnyBrown?

Here, in small town America that is dominated by a small university, we have people from Asia and other regions who are studying, researching, teaching, working, and generally being productive and well behaved. They are welcome everywhere, as far as I know.

Lol ok. You know everything. I get it.

So where is this special place where ethnic Chinese get extra hatred above all others?

I know "everything?" I am asking questions and sincerely trying to understand.

@HonnyBrown: I do not seem Asian. Anyone with functioning eyes can discern that I am a boring old Caucasian broad. Yawn. No one will ever treat me well or poorly based upon my perceived Asian-ness because that does not exist. Thus, I can never experience what someone who is perceived as Asian experiences. OTOH, I do not see many incident reports regarding people who seem "Asian" or have Asian sounding names. There seem to be numerous people who look Asian and/or have Asian-sounding names who are performing high level work and contributing much to our small community and all the places and situations that the university reaches. This is global achievement and influence! Have any of these people who may or may not be Asian to any extent encountered obstacles? I dunno. They did not tell me about it. Does this mean I have a pro-Asian bias? As always, I dunno.....

Interesting...where would a racism based incident report be filed?

Post 9-11, I was traveling in Europe (far from the UK) for work. You know, when Americans were told to be cautious when traveling and not to wear anything that would identify you as an American. Well, I entered a German pub for a meal and another patron, who appeared to me to sound Polish asked if I was British. After a short pause, I replied, "yes." "Gen Dobry!"

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Racism, schmacism. There are few incident reports of any type. It appears that Asians are not troublesome here and are productive and decent residents. I like them already!

But since you asked, it depends upon where the incident occurs. In some places, absolutely everyone is expected to stop whatever they are doing and hear anyone else's report of absolutely anything that seems wrong, makes them feel uncomfortable for any reason (not just race), and then guide the offended one to next steps. At my workplace, there is an office for the advancement of awareness of all types of diversity including race. This is a logical place to report any race-oriented and other offenses that might fit under the large umbrella of diversity.

This is needed most of all, I think, to distinguish between racism and the fact that all people will make some sort of error at some time. Sometimes, we do not know what is in or out of fashion (PC) at any given moment. Perhaps we misspeak or mishear. Did we overreact before checking facts? If someone will sift the factors, we might learn something without being blasted. Someone might teach us instead of retaliating. This is civilized. At other times, someone might play the race card when no reference to race existed, even though other offenses might have been involved. The diversity experts can identify where racism and the other diversity oriented offenses actually occur.

@HonnyBrown wrote:

Interesting...where would a racism based incident report be filed?