Confessions of a spreadsheet junkie

By now, if you have been reading this forum for any period of time, you know I am a huge fan of Excel spreadsheets. I love making ‘workbooks’ where all of my information is at my fingertips. I was putting together one as sort of a genealogy of my goats today since we are about to have a round of new kids and my old paper notebook of who begat whom is falling apart. The question is whether a male offspring of any of the moms will be genetically distant enough from the gals I currently have to be safe to breed without a high probability of defective offspring due excessive inbreeding. The answer is that a male from one of the moms could work provided he is strong and healthy but it would be wiser to do a ‘buck swap’ with someone else to bring a fresh set of genetics to the herd. This brought me to proselytizing once again for using spreadsheets.

I of course keep track of shops with a spreadsheet workbook that at any point allows me to see exactly where I stand thus far for the year, I keep track of who shops whom as a page of that workbook, another page allows me to know what shops I am in rotation for where speed and agility is needed to hone in on shops ASAP when they post, another page is the spreadsheet of companies I am registered with including log ons and passwords. A handy all-in-one tool, but fragile so not for the faint of heart or the folks who aren’t familiar with Excel. Of course I have a basic spreadsheet I have always been willing to share because it was shared with me long ago by a gal who no longer shops.

For restaurant shops I also use a spreadsheet that is set up to calculate elapsed times. There are likely to be multiple timings happening simultaneously on a restaurant shop (time from order to delivery for various items that were ordered at different times and have not yet been delivered, etc.). In the restaurant I just tell my DVR ‘beverage order 7:11:16’, ‘beverage delivery 7:13:12’, ‘appetizer order in 7:14:29’, ‘entrée order in 7:18:57’, ‘appetizer delivery 7:22:49’ etc. When I get home I open the timings blank spreadsheet and start entering the times from the DVR in the appropriate box and the spreadsheet does the calculation of the elapsed time for, for example beverage delivery, by subtracting 7:11:16 from 7:13:12 and returning an elapsed time of 1 minute and 56 seconds. It means I can have an accurate elapsed time without sitting here trying to convert minutes to seconds to do the arithmetic. If anybody wants a copy to play with, PM me with your email address.

But I use spreadsheets with the rest of my life as well. For nearly a decade I have kept a spreadsheet of my bills to pay each month. I do NOT like bank bill pay where they are responsible by sending payment by ACH or snail mail. I want to put the responsibility on the vendor to ‘come and get it’. Then there are the issues of bills getting lost or delayed in the mail and I got them too late to pay them in a timely manner. On or about the 20th of the month I open up my bill paying spreadsheet and every credit card, mortgage, insurance, property tax, vehicle licensing, utility, bank and brokerage account is there with the website, my account number, my login and my password. I have a Firefox bookmark that has all of these vendors, banks and brokerages so that I can ‘open all in tabs’ and start setting up the payments to be paid from the appropriate bank account on their due date. As I enter the payment date and amount on the vendor’s website, I also enter it on my spreadsheet. I can then sum up the entries and make sure every account paying has enough money to cover and I still have a few days to get money moved around if needed. By checking the bank accounts and brokerage accounts in that same session I can enter current balances and see where there is money that can be moved if needed. My spreadsheet now has data going back since I started keeping the sheet and as a ‘trip down memory lane’ about what my taxes, home owner insurance, utilities and health care USED to cost, it is quite revealing. But the main thing is that I have had NO LATE CHARGES for almost a decade because I can’t overlook any of the bills without overlooking all of them. A back page of this workbook includes deposit information and whether a deposit was from shops or some other source. This helps support my overall Schedule C information for the year.

I use a spreadsheet for ‘freezer control’ as I HATE pulling something out of the freezer that has gotten lost in there and I have to pitch it because of frostburn.

I use a spreadsheet to remind me of monthly, quarterly, semi annual and annual chores around the house. HVAC filters need to be replaced monthly, the jet dry in the dishwasher monthly, decalcifying the coffee pot monthly, lube of the moving parts of the garage electric door monthly, citrus fertilization quarterly, draining the HW heater semi-annual, etc. Since none of these thing are ‘fun’, without the reminder it would be easy to forget them even though each one takes only minutes to do. Early during each month I pull the sheet up, get the jobs done and the date performed or the materials ordered and then I don’t have them hanging over my head or wondering what I forgot to do.

Spreadsheets of investment performance are also important to me.

Spreadsheets of medications my significant other is on with date and dosage changes has avoided those medication changes to things that have historically been ineffective for him.

I don’t know how I managed to tie my shoes before spreadsheets :-)

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Hey Flash, An awesome post.

As an increasingly serious mystery shopper, I want to be a voice for up and coming technologies. Smart phones tied to Dropbox and specialized audio recording software from a single platform (Android) do me well.

I keep a centralized dropbox folder between my Droid, 3 laptops, and work computer. That has a backup excel file. My main excel file is on google docs.

I highly recommend download a "sleep recorder" which lets you set the threshold for your shops. When you smack the phone really loud, it records the time index EXACTLY. No more digging around looking for time indices or listening to audio hoping to land on your voice recording!


My recommendation: " Sleep Talk recorder " for android (FREE) in market place. Look for the red icon with the white bed (author: Madinsweden).
There are lots of up and coming techologies and a whole lot of them have built in 'Big Brother' features, so I tend to be super cautious about what I let them do for me until I really thoroughly understand what the down sides are.

For example, ownership of material that you run through some 'free' web-based utility. While perhaps saving my material or passing my material through such a utility is safe, if it is in some way compromised, I have no recourse. I played with Dropbox briefly and my techy son sat me down and pointed out that I must NOT use it with anything that needs to be confidential as I have no right to expect it to be kept confidential. Sure it is convenient but he sent me back to my thumb drive for file transfer between equipment.

It would be lovely to use the Google spreadsheets and calendars and such, but once again there is no right to expect confidentiality as this stuff is saved to their servers.

I am not a paranoid person but rather a cautious one. I do not have a Facebook or Twitter account and I was interested in reading the materials regarding the upcoming Facebook IPO. Facebook plans to intensify its data mining for more productive and directed advertising. Fine. Google already does that with gmail, but my gmail account information is so sketchy I could not be conclusively identified from it. I am aware of what some folks have put in their Facebook information and I can tell you that I don't share such stuff with or via gmail. Periodically I Google myself to make sure that I do not come up on the web. This last time what I found was one of those 'someone is looking for you' websites had my name. I did not register to find out who might be looking for me. To the best of my knowledge, my real name appears on the internet in a few official sites, but you need to know what you are looking for to find me. I like it that way and am not at all worried about the potential of identity theft.

So what I am saying is KNOW the applications you are using. Who owns the information? How are they allowed to use the information? Do they ensure that your information remains exclusively yours?
the answer is of course no flash... thats why they are free... they get to track your movements and see what interests you and what you are writing about...

according to an npr interview many of the things that google plans to do are illegal... lots of lawyers are looking into this matter... mainly because they are forcing people to accept new contract obligations or not use the service... while at the same time not honoring the contracts already signed (grandfathering is the term)..

if they do this you have my word...i will torch my android phone... video tape it... post it on youtube and send it by mail to the google plex... and i will do so... then i will buy a windows phone... my fb friends know of this... and now you guys do to... i only use gmail because my phone requires it for access to the apps and the market... i have no investment in any other of their services... i have no need... i use fb... i have yahoo mail for mail and search... and i have this forum... nothing else do i need from google... never have and probably never will...

facebook of course is going to add to the value they get out of their services by increasing advertising space on the pages... since it is their site they can do so at will... and thus adding to their IPO valuation...

i couldnt care less as to what they do with it... i dont have work information on there because the people i work with are douches or drunkards... or both... i dont have where i live (which is idiotic to post)... and to top it off both my first and last name are supposedly in the top 10 most common names in america... last i went to a gym there were 8 people who had the same name first and last name as me... plus i have only 82 friends... and dont really plan on adding anymore... no need... only ones i have added in the last year have been girlfriends and those get deleted BEFORE i break up with them...

shopping north west PA and south west ny
> Re: Confidentiality

Just a thought...Who cares?

Honestly, think about it. Everyone is up in your business all the time everywhere. You give your full personal info to your employer, bank, MSC, etc... Gmail robots read your email for advertising keywords...you're not giving nearly as much info away on a dropbox or google docs as you would a bank, but at any rate, you kinda have to trust them. We got to live some, and whether you like to accept it or not, cloud file storage is a HUGE storm over the horizon and it is the future of "personal" computing.

I'm a techie son : ). I find my parents paranoia to be them focusing on the exception, sensational news story, rather than the rule.

IMO, you have to balance the risks...what is chances someone could steal your phone or laptop AND get access to your personal information or hack your info directly from your laptop VS. the chances an employee or hacker can get access to your dropbox info? I don't think it is very different. But do bear in mind, these companies use enterprise level security, and you don't.

Also this is kind of an ego centric thing... but unless my next Patent write up is stolen from my drop box, I don't think I have anything ridiculously unique as a person that could get stolen.

If I were a government official or celebrity... man would my opinion on this thread be different!

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/08/2012 03:03PM by marmani.
I care. I'm not ancient, but value my privacy. To me it's not even about identity theft, it's more basic than that. We have devolved into a culture of Jerry Springer and the Kardashians where people share every intimate detail of their lives with anyone and everyone who will listen. I don't wanna know that much about anyone and certainly don't want anyone to know that much about me. I'm a firm believer in TMI.

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Flash Wrote:
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> By now, if you have been reading this forum for
> any period of time, you know I am a huge fan of
> Excel spreadsheets. I love making ‘workbooks’
> where all of my information is at my fingertips.
> I was putting together one as sort of a genealogy
> of my goats today since we are about to have a
> round of new kids and my old paper notebook of who
> begat whom is falling apart. The question is
> whether a male offspring of any of the moms will
> be genetically distant enough from the gals I
> currently have to be safe to breed without a high
> probability of defective offspring due excessive
> inbreeding. The answer is that a male from one of
> the moms could work provided he is strong and
> healthy but it would be wiser to do a ‘buck swap’
> with someone else to bring a fresh set of genetics
> to the herd. This brought me to proselytizing
> once again for using spreadsheets.
>
> I of course keep track of shops with a spreadsheet
> workbook that at any point allows me to see
> exactly where I stand thus far for the year, I
> keep track of who shops whom as a page of that
> workbook, another page allows me to know what
> shops I am in rotation for where speed and agility
> is needed to hone in on shops ASAP when they post,
> another page is the spreadsheet of companies I am
> registered with including log ons and passwords.
> A handy all-in-one tool, but fragile so not for
> the faint of heart or the folks who aren’t
> familiar with Excel. Of course I have a basic
> spreadsheet I have always been willing to share
> because it was shared with me long ago by a gal
> who no longer shops.
>
> For restaurant shops I also use a spreadsheet that
> is set up to calculate elapsed times. There are
> likely to be multiple timings happening
> simultaneously on a restaurant shop (time from
> order to delivery for various items that were
> ordered at different times and have not yet been
> delivered, etc.). In the restaurant I just tell
> my DVR ‘beverage order 7:11:16’, ‘beverage
> delivery 7:13:12’, ‘appetizer order in 7:14:29’,
> ‘entrée order in 7:18:57’, ‘appetizer delivery
> 7:22:49’ etc. When I get home I open the timings
> blank spreadsheet and start entering the times
> from the DVR in the appropriate box and the
> spreadsheet does the calculation of the elapsed
> time for, for example beverage delivery, by
> subtracting 7:11:16 from 7:13:12 and returning an
> elapsed time of 1 minute and 56 seconds. It means
> I can have an accurate elapsed time without
> sitting here trying to convert minutes to seconds
> to do the arithmetic. If anybody wants a copy to
> play with, PM me with your email address.
>
> But I use spreadsheets with the rest of my life as
> well. For nearly a decade I have kept a
> spreadsheet of my bills to pay each month. I do
> NOT like bank bill pay where they are responsible
> by sending payment by ACH or snail mail. I want
> to put the responsibility on the vendor to ‘come
> and get it’. Then there are the issues of bills
> getting lost or delayed in the mail and I got them
> too late to pay them in a timely manner. On or
> about the 20th of the month I open up my bill
> paying spreadsheet and every credit card,
> mortgage, insurance, property tax, vehicle
> licensing, utility, bank and brokerage account is
> there with the website, my account number, my
> login and my password. I have a Firefox bookmark
> that has all of these vendors, banks and
> brokerages so that I can ‘open all in tabs’ and
> start setting up the payments to be paid from the
> appropriate bank account on their due date. As I
> enter the payment date and amount on the vendor’s
> website, I also enter it on my spreadsheet. I can
> then sum up the entries and make sure every
> account paying has enough money to cover and I
> still have a few days to get money moved around if
> needed. By checking the bank accounts and
> brokerage accounts in that same session I can
> enter current balances and see where there is
> money that can be moved if needed. My spreadsheet
> now has data going back since I started keeping
> the sheet and as a ‘trip down memory lane’ about
> what my taxes, home owner insurance, utilities and
> health care USED to cost, it is quite revealing.
> But the main thing is that I have had NO LATE
> CHARGES for almost a decade because I can’t
> overlook any of the bills without overlooking all
> of them. A back page of this workbook includes
> deposit information and whether a deposit was from
> shops or some other source. This helps support my
> overall Schedule C information for the year.
>
> I use a spreadsheet for ‘freezer control’ as I
> HATE pulling something out of the freezer that has
> gotten lost in there and I have to pitch it
> because of frostburn.
>
> I use a spreadsheet to remind me of monthly,
> quarterly, semi annual and annual chores around
> the house. HVAC filters need to be replaced
> monthly, the jet dry in the dishwasher monthly,
> decalcifying the coffee pot monthly, lube of the
> moving parts of the garage electric door monthly,
> citrus fertilization quarterly, draining the HW
> heater semi-annual, etc. Since none of these
> thing are ‘fun’, without the reminder it would be
> easy to forget them even though each one takes
> only minutes to do. Early during each month I
> pull the sheet up, get the jobs done and the date
> performed or the materials ordered and then I
> don’t have them hanging over my head or wondering
> what I forgot to do.
>
> Spreadsheets of investment performance are also
> important to me.
>
> Spreadsheets of medications my significant other
> is on with date and dosage changes has avoided
> those medication changes to things that have
> historically been ineffective for him.
>
> I don’t know how I managed to tie my shoes before
> spreadsheets :-)

vickie stigleman
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