@shoptastic wrote:
There is some historical racial hypocrisy when it comes to illegal immigration, but I think it's also sort of a red herring when it comes to our current debates/discussions. A lot of really messed up stuff happened in the past in this country, but we can't let that lawlessness dictate how we go forward.
Today, there are laws that seem more fair and make sense when it comes to immigration.
There are legal channels to come here. The U.S. also gives tons of charity to poor and developing nations (some government sponsored and some through individual/private donations - Christian churches being a big source).
If our system is fair today, then that's how we should be judged (not by our grandparents' and great grandparents', etc. actions).
This is the problem in your argument. The current caravan is not from Mexico, and is not interested in simply a safe haven. They've passed through several. Doing so negates their ability to seek asylum.@MikiNV wrote:
I Look in neighboring Mexico, immigrants marching, hoping to reach, not university, but a safe haven.
They are a sovereign country.@shoptastic wrote:
I think given all the wars the U.S. involves itself in, why not go into Mexico and try to crush these drug gangs also?
Apparently, there are about a dozen who control the majority of the trade. Again, we run into the issue of sovereign countries. Part of the solution is killing the demand.@shoptastic wrote:
But, longer term, I wouldn't mind seeing these evil drug gangs wiped off the face of the Earth. I mean, we have the technological capability and firepower to blow them away.
Good on 'ya, there.@shoptastic wrote:
I think everyone wants to help the poor throughout the world. But, I also think we should do it in a way that makes long-term sustainable sense. Maybe it requires some short-term pain, such as some people having to wait longer, but that would be better than destabilizing/collapsing the U.S.A. - in which case, everyone loses long-term.
@iShop123 wrote:
At least be honest -- when 2/3 of non-citizen households are collecting taxpayer benefits (or "only 58%" if you discount the EIC), states such as California are not going to be able to absorb millions more on the dole. It's just not financially feasible.
@iShop123 wrote:
This is the problem in your argument. The current caravan is not from Mexico, and is not interested in simply a safe haven. They've passed through several. Doing so negates their ability to seek asylum.@MikiNV wrote:
I Look in neighboring Mexico, immigrants marching, hoping to reach, not university, but a safe haven.
At least be honest -- when 2/3 of non-citizen households are collecting taxpayer benefits (or "only 58%" if you discount the EIC), states such as California are not going to be able to absorb millions more on the dole. It's just not financially feasible.
I don't think they deserve less -- or more -- scholarships. They ought to be based on merit, not judged by the color of one's skin.@MikiNV wrote:
No, I do not think minorities deserve less scholarships (as someone said, not you, I think) Education is a pilar of democracy, and our international relations and international communities help our communities and economy greatly. Sometimes life stinks.. nah...it is no one to blame...we are doing fine.
@heartlandcanuck wrote:
I do Jones for Timmies sometimes. No Canadian will admit that the coffee tastes terrible, which is why we drink it "double double," but has a magical, addictive quality to it. It is hard to fin a decent cup of coffee in rural Iowa so we use a French press.
You must mean Justin Trudeau... Bieber came south, too. I miss where every small town has at least two rinks: one for curling and one for hockey. The hockey rinks typically are dry arenas in the summer. Can't polka on ice.
Not supposed to get into politics here, so I'll just say that I remind our three sons quite often that they are dual citizens. The thought of getting our house up to snuff to be put on sale is daunting. Some day... (or 2020 will make America kind again...) Anti-immigrant sentiments are quite strong in the Midwest. I realize most of the intention is veiled racism, as people will say they don't mean me, an English-speaking woman of European ancestry. So yeah, the racist remarks aren't really aimed my way. They sting, though. Sometimes I make the mistake of reading public comments on articles by local media. People I know from town will say horrible things. There have been weeks when I didn't want to leave the house. I'd drop the kids at school, make my US-born husband do the grocery shopping, and do mystery shopping on weekends far away from here where no one knows I am an immigrant. I cannot imagine what it must be like for an immigrant who has brown or black skin right now. Open hostility towards "the other' is en vogue right now.
@MikiNV wrote:
@ heartlandcanuck....why would you give up curling, Tim Hortons and Justin?!
Not sure I understand your post, but I can think of a few things worse ;-) [also, not entirely sure who has/lacks a Y chromosome on this site.] If Coyle will fork over the $1500 for a flight to Zanzibar, I'd love to visit. I'm sort of doubting they're willing to pay that, but Rui Palace looks like a blast.@MikiNV wrote:
To a woman, there is nothing worst than adult men complaining and blaming everyone else.
Take on Coyle. American hotel in Dar-es-Salaam. Take a short flight to zanzibar to visit where they picked and send the strongest slaves to your hometown. Walk around the island. People are of different genetics and religion than you; don’t freak out. When you are done, there are few shops at nearby Seychelles, enjoy the beach. If you have not humbled yourself by then, come visit and spend Christmas with me and my family.
C’mon, stop.
@MFJohnston wrote:
Drug Cartels:
We tried that with Reagan's War on Drugs. The issue is this: As long as there are consumers (primarily in the U.S.) who want the products, there are folks in impoverished countries who will try to enrich themselves (even at risk to their own lives) through providing the desired product.
@walesmaven wrote:
Will someone just bury this thread, please ?
I answered the OP's thread on who she's voting for and so should we...really. I was taken back at the aggressiveness of this statement and although I briefly gave my opinion, I do wonder why the Mod's allow this.@roflwofl wrote:
@walesmaven wrote:
Will someone just bury this thread, please ?
Can we also bury the OP's latest new thread about who she is voting for in 2020? Talking about how a political situation affects mystery shopping is political, but when we have a thread started announcing "I'm voting for XXXX XXXX and so should you" that goes well into the political arena and IMHO sprints way across the line and into extremely offensive.