[www.yahoo.com]

Dang.

But they caught him. Wonder how much time he'll get.

This is similar to what I reported recently regarding my elderly spouse. He is told that he is a babe and loved and will soon be together with a young hottie (we saw the pic) who is going to be wealthy in a matter of weeks. Weeks! The first time it was within weeks was months ago. But in their scenario, these details simply do no matter. ?! Meanwhile, he is utilized as an unpaid errand boy because he does not have the big bucks. He has been shipping items and purchasing cards which can be used for cash. He has been told repeatedly by store managers that there is a covid scam involving cards. He persists for the sake of his girlfriend, who wants hundreds and thousands of dollars worth of cards-to-cash at a time. He does this because he has been promised money... in a few weeks... for what he has been doing. Keep in mind there is no binding agreement.

I still do not know if what he is doing is related to fraud, but it is alarming that it is so easy for some people to get sucked into these processes and schemes. At least he told me as events developed instead of keeping everything a secret.

He feels like he loves this alleged young hottie and would like to help her with her situation. The situation? She receives eight thousand dollars every few weeks, has a frozen bank account (but never explains why!), needs to pay off several loans or be killed and/or sued, and has no money to buy groceries and medicine for her child. How can a person who receives eight thousand dollars every few weeks not have money for groceries and medicine for their child?! Coupons and discounts are available for everyone, even if they don't qualify for state or federal benefits. Patient advocates at pediatrician's office and pharmacy know more about these things than I do. But that is merely another pesky detail. I believe there is no child and no hottie. He believes these heart breakers are real. So I play along, as if he were again three years old and believing that Santa and tiny reindeer were real... and applaud anyone who speaks out about their experiences.

Speaking out is important. It keeps situations in the light. Scammers can no longer hide in the shadows... or scam mega money from their victims...

Thank you, HonnyBrown, for posting!



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Here's one closer to home: [rockrivertimes.com].

SEL, I remember you mentioning that, but not in detail.

Why are you allowing that to continue? That's your money!

Now that is bold!

@MSF wrote:

Here's one closer to home: [rockrivertimes.com].

Our money is 99% separate. Usually, this is a wonderful thing, and I prefer it. Just now, this individuation makes it difficult for me to have input into how he spends his money-- some of which is meant to pay for his portion of household expenses. I can only go for so many weeks without his portion of expenses. If I want the household to run well, I have to take action. By default I am cast as the ogress/enforceress in the strange little drama. This is not a good role for me...

@HonnyBrown wrote:

SEL, I remember you mentioning that, but not in detail.

Why are you allowing that to continue? That's your money!

I get it, SEL, I get it. It's a shame he can't see it's all a scam. Just stand back while the train wreck unfolds.

Dr Phil on tv has scams on his show frequently. Mostly they are women being scammed by a male but everything is possible. These are not covid related. They have been going on for years althou they may have updated their script to include covid in their excuses.
Shop-et I am sorry you are caught up in this. In must be horrible. If allowed in your situation you can seek guardianship of the monetary accts. in the courts. Many elderly people have issues with this type of thing.
I myself have started to get grammie calls this past year. I even got a grandpa call...a young person calls and claims to be your grandchild who is in trouble and needs money to ...you name it and there is a story for it.

He doesn't even have a lawyer yet. As sketchy as he is, that alone is pretty risky.

@panama18 wrote:

Dang.

But they caught him. Wonder how much time he'll get.

I got a grammie call. It was baffling because I don't have any kids. It didn't occur to me that it was a scam, I thought it was a wrong number. I would have played that boy like a cat with a broken footed mouse.

@sandyf wrote:

I myself have started to get grammie calls this past year. I even got a grandpa call...a young person calls and claims to be your grandchild who is in trouble and needs money to ...you name it and there is a story for it.

And I have no grandkids, do not owe the gas, elec, irs, or anyone that threatens. But many do owe and worry when they get these calls. I like to play them once in a while too. My daughter thinks I am wasting my valuable time but i feel I am wasting their valuable time. Once I listened to my "grandchild's" sob story as far as the car broke, down, got beaten up, had cards stolen, in the hospital and then in jail and a bunch of other things hoping I would eventually give in. I turned it around on him and finally after 5 minutes or so told him my own sob story about his "cousin" my other "grandkid" and asked that he help him out by way of me and send me some money.

@HonnyBrown wrote:

I got a grammie call. It was baffling because I don't have any kids. It didn't occur to me that it was a scam, I thought it was a wrong number. I would have played that boy like a cat with a broken footed mouse.

@sandyf wrote:

I myself have started to get grammie calls this past year. I even got a grandpa call...a young person calls and claims to be your grandchild who is in trouble and needs money to ...you name it and there is a story for it.

Do you ever watch the television show, "American Greed?"

Shop-et-al, you could have the Power of Attorney of your spouse's affairs. Night Owl at 4:46 AM

Here's another. It would be really interesting to see what the court says about ownership. I say the dealer still owns the painting but I guess you could debate it.

[www.bloomberg.com]

Yes! I am fascinated by these scammers who get caught! American Greed takes it to another level.

@MSF wrote:

Do you ever watch the television show, "American Greed?"

The dang scammers are everywhere! I posted a car for sale on craigslist. Out of 11 emails asking about it, only two were non-scammers. One person even asked if I would take a cashier's check, and then her movers would pick it up after the check cleared the bank. Yeah, we all know that one. "I just happen to have this cashier's check for $6000. If you cash it and give me the extra, we can do business." I let her know that I'm not in the manure business, so I have all the sh*t I need.

I watched an episode this morning. It was pathetic. The women sent the Casanovas more and more money. They didn't realize they were being scammed until Dr. Phil pointed out the obvious.

@sandyf wrote:

Dr Phil on tv has scams on his show frequently. Mostly they are women being scammed by a male but everything is possible.

@HonnyBrown wrote:

He doesn't even have a lawyer yet. As sketchy as he is, that alone is pretty risky.

@panama18 wrote:

Dang.

But they caught him. Wonder how much time he'll get.

His instagram is hilarious. So gross. Obviously a Nigerian in Dubai with scammers money.

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I really wish people would stop falling for these scams.

They are vulnerable in some way - lonely hearts club, or broke, or whatever, depending on the scam they fall for - and want it to be true.

@HonnyBrown wrote:

I really wish people would stop falling for these scams.

They might need to be needed or want to be helpful.

Yes, the young hottie. Is she asking for higher and higher amounts of money?

The picture that she sent you, check the details. Also check the IP addresses of her emails. They should shed some light.

She runs on two basic tracks:

1 Begging for money to pay for expensive medication for her sick child. I checked on the meds costs. The meds for the actual condition that the child allegedly has have a wide range of costs, from cheap (a few bucks) to extremely expensive (thousands of dollars). Hubby has sold his belongings to get money to send for this purpose. Sometime after my report (but not necessarily because of it), she sent him money that he could use to buy back his stuff. Usually, the pleas for Rx money are accompanied by pleas for grocery money. She only started paying for this after my report.

2. She demands that my elderly hubby buy hundreds to thousands of dollars of gift cards, several times every week.. These cards can be converted to cash. (?????) She deposits money into his account for this. It is not possible to purchase cards in those amounts here. She insists that it is. It is not. Usually, she demands that he go immediately and [apparently] is not aware that he works, has responsibilities at home, and needs more sleep than he did. He is changing; this is his aging process. It does not seem to matter to her that he is not free and able to perform on command.

Once, and specifically to change the game, I gave my husband two hundred dollars and made him buy cards for her in that amount. Why? To change the game! I also did it just in case there is a sick child with a challenged mom. Shortly after that, I had access to his phone and sent her a text. I begged her to organize her life so as to care for her child properly. I gave names of organizations that sometimes help in emergency situations. I forgave her for not thanking me for the gift of two hundred dollars. About two weeks after that, the hubby was still pouting and fuming. But he began to stand up to her. Some of the time, he makes her wait instead of jumping up and fetching her cards. He is getting better at this. He reports daily that she just doesn't seem to get it about the cards not being available just because she wants that to be so.

At one time, there was a lawyer in the scenario. They referred to themselves as "Barrister somebody". Really? In the United States? We usually say lawyer or attorney. In other parts of the world, barrister is used more often. Anyway, this person supposedly was arranging for the alleged hottie to receive the remainder of her father's multi-million dollar estate. For whatever reason, she has been receiving the money in increments of eight thousand dollars, administered every few weeks. Her bank account has been frozen-- and she never explains why that happened. About a month ago, "Barrister somebody" stated that he was going on vacation [to Sweden?] and would work on the hubby's accounts after he returned. That was the last communication from the alleged lawyer. The hubby had given her/him/someone? all his credit card and bank account information because they had promised to pay all his bills for him. [Yikes.!] Now, she has lowered his promised payment by thousands of dollars. He has a new account, and she can deposit money into it. As far as I know, she cannot withdraw or transfer funds from it. [Eek.!!!!!] I know that she has not provided him with sufficient funds to pay his bills as promised or paid them directly.

The pics of the alleged hottie and alleged kid went to his previous phone. He showed them to me For the alleged hottie, I saw someone who looked tanned, young, and wore red or orange. That's it. He says she is really beautiful. The pic of the alleged kid could have been any kid, even one from a new wallet. It would be easy to photo shop various images into one. Was the kid wearing yellow? Was there a harvest gold (old!) appliance in the background? What was/were the white or cream thing or things on a table? I did not look at that for more than one second. There was nothing to indicate that the child was real, alive, in the custody of the alleged hottie, and/or healthy or unhealthy. If he transferred images to the new phone, I can view these again.

I believe that if this person really had a sick child, someone in medical world who examined this child would be aware of the lack of money for medications and possibly a lack of nutrition/other health concern. The pharmacy would have a record of purchases of half amounts of medication made frequently. If I were certain of where they lived, I would call child protective services for that state. I only know that the person's phone number is for a tiny town that is located near a prison and a mental facility. They supposedly live elsewhere in that state, in a county that has a larger city.

Our devices are 95% separate. It will take time for the hubby to show me those pics and e-mails (if they are accessible). Just now, we are working too many hours. We will get back to her stuff next week.He thinks she is beautiful and therefor superior. He is resistant to questioning. I will bribe him with fave restaurant and a fishing day.

I apologize for the disjointed info. I am hurrying between tasks, jobs, and errands. With us luck.

Thanks for the great tips!

@HonnyBrown wrote:

Yes, the young hottie. Is she asking for higher and higher amounts of money?

The picture that she sent you, check the details. Also check the IP addresses of her emails. They should shed some light.

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Holy crap! I don't even have the words....

@HonnyBrown wrote:

Holy crap! I don't even have the words....

It’s a very sad situation.

Today, she tried to bribe the hubby to stay in town and do her bidding instead of keeping plans that he already had made. That did not work well for her.

However, I picked up a useful tidbit at the doc today. Sometimes, there is a grocery/pharmacy connection. Just now, one grocery chain that has an in-house pharmacy is giving $75 of groceries to anyone who transfers a prescription or brings a new prescription.

This is not a huge amount of groceries, but it is something the alleged mom could do that helps her household with food and medicine.

@Shop-et-al wrote:

Today, she tried to bribe the hubby to stay in town and do her bidding instead of keeping plans that he already had made. That did not work well for her.

However, I picked up a useful tidbit at the doc today. Sometimes, there is a grocery/pharmacy connection. Just now, one grocery chain that has an in-house pharmacy is giving $75 of groceries to anyone who transfers a prescription or brings a new prescription.

This is not a huge amount of groceries, but it is something the alleged mom could do that helps her household with food and medicine.

#1 the person is not female
#2 the person has no child

I can't make it any clearer than that.

4. People should know about the tidbit. You never know when a few essentially free groceries will come in handy. Covid economics are likely to continue into next year and even into 2022. Little things like this might help someone in future if things become bad for them.




1. When she speaks on the phone, her voice sounds authentically female. I have heard this a few times. It does not sound like an altered voice. And, she works it in the way of a female who has worked it since the womb.
2. I believe there is no child for whom she has responsibility. But we have to do what we have to do......
3. ..... I wrote a bit about dealing with her in the 'what are you doing today' thread. Something different from hubby's method is needed. And, there has been no feedback regarding a formal investigation. So, it is up to us to deal with this.

I understand that your finances are separate, but this is affecting your household/you. You can only watch the train wreck for so long before you have to take action.

ETA: How much has he given the scammer so far?



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