A question about PROPHET, SASSIE, and SHOPMETRICS
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I don't know of a list of companies according to their reporting platform. Some Shopmetrics companies use MSJobBoard.com and Sassie companies use Jobslinger. I am curious why you would want to know. Do you have a preference for one over the other?
Equal rights for others does not mean fewer rights for you. It's not pie.
"I prefer someone who burns the flag and then wraps themselves up in the Constitution over someone who burns the Constitution and then wraps themselves up in the flag." -Molly Ivins
Never try to teach a pig to sing. It's a waste of your time and it really annoys the pig.
"I prefer someone who burns the flag and then wraps themselves up in the Constitution over someone who burns the Constitution and then wraps themselves up in the flag." -Molly Ivins
Never try to teach a pig to sing. It's a waste of your time and it really annoys the pig.
@LiasSTL;
No preference but Jobslinger, Prophet,and Shopmetrics each have signup gateways that get the attention of many more schedulers. I am looking to manage the demographics and profile issues that affect what shops I get to see.
I would also be interested in any other signup gateways you or anyone else might be aware of.
No preference but Jobslinger, Prophet,and Shopmetrics each have signup gateways that get the attention of many more schedulers. I am looking to manage the demographics and profile issues that affect what shops I get to see.
I would also be interested in any other signup gateways you or anyone else might be aware of.
Shopping South Texas where there are miles and miles between each of the miles to every shop.
This may not be the career for you.....
This is not a top of the money chain career to exert so much effort. We all sign Up for as many companies and go with it. You are not afforded the luxury to have THAT many shops to pick and chose from....
If you are.hoping to in turn sell the list... all that is free info.
P T Burke Wrote:
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> @LiasSTL;
>
> No preference but Jobslinger, Prophet,and
> Shopmetrics each have signup gateways that get the
> attention of many more schedulers. I am looking
> to manage the demographics and profile issues that
> affect what shops I get to see.
>
> I would also be interested in any other signup
> gateways you or anyone else might be aware of.
This is not a top of the money chain career to exert so much effort. We all sign Up for as many companies and go with it. You are not afforded the luxury to have THAT many shops to pick and chose from....
If you are.hoping to in turn sell the list... all that is free info.
P T Burke Wrote:
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> @LiasSTL;
>
> No preference but Jobslinger, Prophet,and
> Shopmetrics each have signup gateways that get the
> attention of many more schedulers. I am looking
> to manage the demographics and profile issues that
> affect what shops I get to see.
>
> I would also be interested in any other signup
> gateways you or anyone else might be aware of.
CANADAMOMMY Wrote:
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> This may not be the career for you.....
> This is not a top of the money chain career to
> exert so much effort. We all sign Up for as many
> companies and go with it. You are not afforded the
> luxury to have THAT many shops to pick and chose
> from....
> If you are.hoping to in turn sell the list... all
> that is free info.
Very amusing. In the spirit of "... and the last shall be first";
all information is "free info" -people only get paid for putting it together for you in a form that is most useful to you and that you can deal with.
You wrote "You are not afforded the luxury to have THAT many shops to pick and chose from...."
ROTFL!! In view of the fact that I have the list and the sites have been verified, I find your assertion to be very funny! It would seem obvious that since I do have the list and that as a result I am afforded exactly that luxury.
If you don't signup with all of the companies why do you think you are signing up with as many as you can? Is there something stopping you that isn't stopping me?
So much effort?? What effort - just a few hours of searches and some database processing and as they say in Canada "Voila! It is done! eh?"
If no one has organized the method of finding the companies this may be the exact third career for me. The first two were extremely profitable but they have left me with very little to do.
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> This may not be the career for you.....
> This is not a top of the money chain career to
> exert so much effort. We all sign Up for as many
> companies and go with it. You are not afforded the
> luxury to have THAT many shops to pick and chose
> from....
> If you are.hoping to in turn sell the list... all
> that is free info.
Very amusing. In the spirit of "... and the last shall be first";
all information is "free info" -people only get paid for putting it together for you in a form that is most useful to you and that you can deal with.
You wrote "You are not afforded the luxury to have THAT many shops to pick and chose from...."
ROTFL!! In view of the fact that I have the list and the sites have been verified, I find your assertion to be very funny! It would seem obvious that since I do have the list and that as a result I am afforded exactly that luxury.
If you don't signup with all of the companies why do you think you are signing up with as many as you can? Is there something stopping you that isn't stopping me?
So much effort?? What effort - just a few hours of searches and some database processing and as they say in Canada "Voila! It is done! eh?"
If no one has organized the method of finding the companies this may be the exact third career for me. The first two were extremely profitable but they have left me with very little to do.
Shopping South Texas where there are miles and miles between each of the miles to every shop.
What do you want from us? You have your list, do what you want with it. I doubt anyone here is going to help you with it. We don't need your list to find shops, we have plenty to choose from as it is. I don't want to work for 493 companies, I just need to work for as many as it takes to keep me as busy as I want to be. If I get bored with what I'm doing, I'll go sign up with a couple more companies. I don't have to look far to find them!
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I pray it does not occur that the last thing I did before I died was vacuum the house or eat broccoli.
You may want to contact the providers directly. The MSJobBoard guru, Alex, used to post here sometimes, but I haven't seen anything from him in months. I find the job boards to be effective for targeting companies working in my area. While there may be several hundred more companies, there are enough that are still regional. While I add new companies every month, most of the time I do pick and choose and it is a safe bet that I turn down 4 to 5 times more shops than I take.
Equal rights for others does not mean fewer rights for you. It's not pie.
"I prefer someone who burns the flag and then wraps themselves up in the Constitution over someone who burns the Constitution and then wraps themselves up in the flag." -Molly Ivins
Never try to teach a pig to sing. It's a waste of your time and it really annoys the pig.
"I prefer someone who burns the flag and then wraps themselves up in the Constitution over someone who burns the Constitution and then wraps themselves up in the flag." -Molly Ivins
Never try to teach a pig to sing. It's a waste of your time and it really annoys the pig.
I accept very little of what I'm offered now. Signing up with all the companies would complicate my situation, and unless I want different work I don't need more companies. Any time I want expansion, I can sign up with a few more companies. A system that signs me up with everyone wouldn't work for me. I don't want that many contacts.
Mary Davis Nowell. Based close to Fort Worth. Shopping Interstate 20 east and west, Interstate 35 north and south.
@LisaSTL and @ Mdavisnowell;
Thank you for your courteous reply and for being able to address the topic directly. Obviously some folks lack the capacity to stay on point or to be civil about their lack of ability to comprehend.
I find that there is always a need for replacement companies in my garden of companies. Some companies don't pay promptly while others don't pay at all. Some companies have a really good set-up for the shoppers to login so they dismantle it and put up a website that only works part of the time. I also find that some companies don't have any clients in my area while some of the ones who do don't realize the kind of mileage issues that are part of the landscape here in So Texas.
I am looking at assembling a database that can be screened like a stock screener. I put in my criteria for a good company and the software searches all of them to produce a statistically probable match.
I have noticed that some companies that do grocery shops and do them well are just horrible to deal with on a bank shop. The editors do well on the grocery shops but it is a disaster when they edit the bank shops. I have also found a company with specific plans to expand their international reach to include government projects just as soon as they find a client who is outside of their neighborhood in the city they live in. Champagne plans on a beer pocket book.
I am interested in the data processing aspect as a hobby since it is an unexplored area. Currently I am working on a mapping program that will optimize the routing for up to 25 stops a day.
Thank you for your courteous reply and for being able to address the topic directly. Obviously some folks lack the capacity to stay on point or to be civil about their lack of ability to comprehend.
I find that there is always a need for replacement companies in my garden of companies. Some companies don't pay promptly while others don't pay at all. Some companies have a really good set-up for the shoppers to login so they dismantle it and put up a website that only works part of the time. I also find that some companies don't have any clients in my area while some of the ones who do don't realize the kind of mileage issues that are part of the landscape here in So Texas.
I am looking at assembling a database that can be screened like a stock screener. I put in my criteria for a good company and the software searches all of them to produce a statistically probable match.
I have noticed that some companies that do grocery shops and do them well are just horrible to deal with on a bank shop. The editors do well on the grocery shops but it is a disaster when they edit the bank shops. I have also found a company with specific plans to expand their international reach to include government projects just as soon as they find a client who is outside of their neighborhood in the city they live in. Champagne plans on a beer pocket book.
I am interested in the data processing aspect as a hobby since it is an unexplored area. Currently I am working on a mapping program that will optimize the routing for up to 25 stops a day.
Shopping South Texas where there are miles and miles between each of the miles to every shop.
You want to know why I understood immediately? A dear friend and fellow shopper is a total geek and I mean that lovingly. He has been in the process of doing pretty much the same thing
It amazes me and blows my mind. Like you, he only shops part-time and is doing it to see if he can, not with any intentions to sell the result.
It amazes me and blows my mind. Like you, he only shops part-time and is doing it to see if he can, not with any intentions to sell the result.Equal rights for others does not mean fewer rights for you. It's not pie.
"I prefer someone who burns the flag and then wraps themselves up in the Constitution over someone who burns the Constitution and then wraps themselves up in the flag." -Molly Ivins
Never try to teach a pig to sing. It's a waste of your time and it really annoys the pig.
"I prefer someone who burns the flag and then wraps themselves up in the Constitution over someone who burns the Constitution and then wraps themselves up in the flag." -Molly Ivins
Never try to teach a pig to sing. It's a waste of your time and it really annoys the pig.
P T Burke, now I'm REALLY interested in what you plan to do. My understanding is this would work somewhat like the stock screening features on MSN Money. That would be great. For example, I could put in my personal data and it would match me up with an MSC looking for me. Or, I could put in my criteria for a new MSC, and it would match me up with those working in my area. Or, I could put in my criteria for shops I want to do, and it would match me up with companies having those jobs in my area? That would be fantastic. While I'm not interested in signing up with hundreds of companies (I couldn't handle the contacts), I would be interested in signing up with specific companies with specific jobs in my area. Can you make that work?
Mary Davis Nowell. Based close to Fort Worth. Shopping Interstate 20 east and west, Interstate 35 north and south.
Burk, just a little venom goes a long way. RUN!
You may also want to add Clientsmart as a platform. There aren't as many as even the Shopmetrics-based companies, but there are more than a few.
@MDavisnowell; yup - a stock screener morphed into a MSC screener. I am looking at web crawlers and data bots to gather keyword hits from the active MS websites and to use the resulting keyword accumulation to harvest the www for other likely MS company candidate sites.
I am talking with a colleague about a "best path" route optimization feature also. You would enter an origin and some number of destination in random order and a return point and get a reordered best path (shortest or quickest) itinery for the route. I currently have that option on my mapping software and it is very nice. I enter up to 25 stops and it gives me the optimum route to make the stops and it gives me lunch and gas stops for the day.
I finally have a validated list of 356 companies that are actually in existence, and have a legal existance with the Secretary of State in their respective state or country of origin (or a certificate of authority as a foreign entity filed for record) and I can find their web address on a server and their domain name.
I have found 11 operational sites that are mystery shop sites but the sites are contaminated by trojans and viruses of other destructive types. It could be a disaster for an unsuspecting shopper to land on one of those sites. Even if the site is up and running an accidental visit out of curiosity will result in accquireing unwanted gifts that keep on giving.
I also have the software platform identified for most of those mystery shop companies. Prophet, Sassie, Shopmetrics, and Clientsmart are probably the most common.
I have only managed to collect the name, email address, and telephone number for the company contact person for 102 of those 356 mystery shop companies. I find that to be interesting.
@LisaSTL: I suppose that I actually am a geek at heart. My specialty is artifically intelligent self correcting databases and their theoretical design. I worked in the field of legal research (curative title) for large ranches (50,000+ acres) and various mineral rights entities (read mining and petroleum) in Texas and Mexico. I do find MS to be fun, but I also am learning alot.
By the way, how did you insert the smiley? I thought that editing the hyper text markup language (HTML) for this site was kinjite ( a forbidden subject) and cause for instant banishment to Cocytus (The 9th level of Hell in Dante's Inferno).
In my opinion the reason that so many people are spending so much time and effort to make a modest income is that they lack the needed understanding of the tactical means to take control of their endeavors and they lack the strategic planning tools they need.
I am talking with a colleague about a "best path" route optimization feature also. You would enter an origin and some number of destination in random order and a return point and get a reordered best path (shortest or quickest) itinery for the route. I currently have that option on my mapping software and it is very nice. I enter up to 25 stops and it gives me the optimum route to make the stops and it gives me lunch and gas stops for the day.
I finally have a validated list of 356 companies that are actually in existence, and have a legal existance with the Secretary of State in their respective state or country of origin (or a certificate of authority as a foreign entity filed for record) and I can find their web address on a server and their domain name.
I have found 11 operational sites that are mystery shop sites but the sites are contaminated by trojans and viruses of other destructive types. It could be a disaster for an unsuspecting shopper to land on one of those sites. Even if the site is up and running an accidental visit out of curiosity will result in accquireing unwanted gifts that keep on giving.
I also have the software platform identified for most of those mystery shop companies. Prophet, Sassie, Shopmetrics, and Clientsmart are probably the most common.
I have only managed to collect the name, email address, and telephone number for the company contact person for 102 of those 356 mystery shop companies. I find that to be interesting.
@LisaSTL: I suppose that I actually am a geek at heart. My specialty is artifically intelligent self correcting databases and their theoretical design. I worked in the field of legal research (curative title) for large ranches (50,000+ acres) and various mineral rights entities (read mining and petroleum) in Texas and Mexico. I do find MS to be fun, but I also am learning alot.
By the way, how did you insert the smiley? I thought that editing the hyper text markup language (HTML) for this site was kinjite ( a forbidden subject) and cause for instant banishment to Cocytus (The 9th level of Hell in Dante's Inferno).
In my opinion the reason that so many people are spending so much time and effort to make a modest income is that they lack the needed understanding of the tactical means to take control of their endeavors and they lack the strategic planning tools they need.
Shopping South Texas where there are miles and miles between each of the miles to every shop.
No editing happening on our end...just simple emoticons that you can use pretty much anywhere...the forum is set to interpret certain keystrokes as emoticons.
P T Burke Wrote:
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> In my opinion the reason that so many people are
> spending so much time and effort to make a modest
> income is that they lack the needed understanding
> of the tactical means to take control of their
> endeavors and they lack the strategic planning
> tools they need.
First, I want to wish you well with your work, and I hope you come up with something spectacular. Experience in mystery shopping is not required to develop a program to provide a better way to find companies and jobs. That can be accomplished with technical skills and a simple understanding that we have to find work.
Second, in response to the paragraph quoted above, in my opinion you have not fully grasped the scope of what we do and the particulars involved in the management of our businesses. Fortunately, it is not necessary for you to understand this part to make your program work.
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> In my opinion the reason that so many people are
> spending so much time and effort to make a modest
> income is that they lack the needed understanding
> of the tactical means to take control of their
> endeavors and they lack the strategic planning
> tools they need.
First, I want to wish you well with your work, and I hope you come up with something spectacular. Experience in mystery shopping is not required to develop a program to provide a better way to find companies and jobs. That can be accomplished with technical skills and a simple understanding that we have to find work.
Second, in response to the paragraph quoted above, in my opinion you have not fully grasped the scope of what we do and the particulars involved in the management of our businesses. Fortunately, it is not necessary for you to understand this part to make your program work.
Mary Davis Nowell. Based close to Fort Worth. Shopping Interstate 20 east and west, Interstate 35 north and south.
MDavisnowell Wrote:
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> First, I want to wish you well with your work, and
> I hope you come up with something spectacular.
> Experience in mystery shopping is not required to
> develop a program to provide a better way to find
> companies and jobs. That can be accomplished with
> technical skills and a simple understanding that
> we have to find work.
>
> Second, in response to the paragraph quoted above,
> in my opinion you have not fully grasped the scope
> of what we do and the particulars involved in the
> management of our businesses. Fortunately, it is
> not necessary for you to understand this part to
> make your program work.
My interest is not in the management of your businesses. I think that each shopper should manage their business in what ever manner pleases them. They are independent contractors and free to accomplish their goals in what ever manner they deem appropriate. I don't have the vast experience of those of you who have slaved in the shopper mines for these many decades.
You are right - finding the prospective companies is nothing more than a minor facet of a trivial bit of serendiptious technical good fortune that results from a degree in Computer Science. (that was meant to be funny, by the way :-) )
I am interested in the list processing and optimum path aspects of finding and pursueing the various shops that interest the shopper. I also notice that there is no rating system where the shoppers can rave up or rave down an MSC. There are many shoppers in my area who find vast holes in the territory they cover and they cannot find the companies that serve the entities in those holes.
I have encountered shoppers who have been deactivated for what appear to be absurd reasons. I agree that a company has the right to use, or not use, the services of an independent contractor as they see fit and that they do not owe an explanation. That is the nature of being an independent contractor.
The sites that I have encountered that are contaminated with trojans and other viral issues are still out there. I don't see any place where the shoppers are warned about the dangers of these sites.
I also am doing this for my own benefit. I have been able to consistently schedule and complete four days per week with 7 to 11 shops for an average of $312 per day. That makes a gross margin of $1248 dollars a week. When I subtract the paid out gas and travel costs I get a net margin of $575 per week. Currently I don't count the reimbursements or the fact that each day includes lunch and dinner with pay. I use the other three days each week to do other related activities so my earnings per hour are not that great but I am having fun. Most of what I am doing I do for myself. I am finding mystery shopping to be fun and interesting. It is also educational. I have never met so many incompetent car salesmen in my life. I also found a great bank with better customer service than I have ever received from any bank. My Suburban gets serviced, my tires checked and rotated until they are dizzy and I get to look around hardware stores on my way to a gas station for a dollar's worth of gas.
My spelling has improve somewhat, I now have three thesauri on my computer, and I have a ball trying to figure out how to explain what I meant when I wrote that "I was most favorably unimpressed by a completely underwhelming tour through the factory brochure ledby throughly disinterested salesman." (Yeah, I know facts - just the facts - nothing but the facts - keep the opinions to myself - but what I am I supposed to say when the editor asks me why I would not return to this dealer to buy a car for $49,000 from a salesman who didn't even ask if I had a name or what sort of car I was looking for?)
I apprecaite your civility. I am currently just a tourist in this industry and maybe some day many decades in future after I have done many thousands of shops I might have paid my dues - oh wait I live in a Right To Work state - I don't have to pay dues.
I am learning a lot by reading the various posts but I must admit that I am surprised at the repetitive nature of many of the questions posed.
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> First, I want to wish you well with your work, and
> I hope you come up with something spectacular.
> Experience in mystery shopping is not required to
> develop a program to provide a better way to find
> companies and jobs. That can be accomplished with
> technical skills and a simple understanding that
> we have to find work.
>
> Second, in response to the paragraph quoted above,
> in my opinion you have not fully grasped the scope
> of what we do and the particulars involved in the
> management of our businesses. Fortunately, it is
> not necessary for you to understand this part to
> make your program work.
My interest is not in the management of your businesses. I think that each shopper should manage their business in what ever manner pleases them. They are independent contractors and free to accomplish their goals in what ever manner they deem appropriate. I don't have the vast experience of those of you who have slaved in the shopper mines for these many decades.
You are right - finding the prospective companies is nothing more than a minor facet of a trivial bit of serendiptious technical good fortune that results from a degree in Computer Science. (that was meant to be funny, by the way :-) )
I am interested in the list processing and optimum path aspects of finding and pursueing the various shops that interest the shopper. I also notice that there is no rating system where the shoppers can rave up or rave down an MSC. There are many shoppers in my area who find vast holes in the territory they cover and they cannot find the companies that serve the entities in those holes.
I have encountered shoppers who have been deactivated for what appear to be absurd reasons. I agree that a company has the right to use, or not use, the services of an independent contractor as they see fit and that they do not owe an explanation. That is the nature of being an independent contractor.
The sites that I have encountered that are contaminated with trojans and other viral issues are still out there. I don't see any place where the shoppers are warned about the dangers of these sites.
I also am doing this for my own benefit. I have been able to consistently schedule and complete four days per week with 7 to 11 shops for an average of $312 per day. That makes a gross margin of $1248 dollars a week. When I subtract the paid out gas and travel costs I get a net margin of $575 per week. Currently I don't count the reimbursements or the fact that each day includes lunch and dinner with pay. I use the other three days each week to do other related activities so my earnings per hour are not that great but I am having fun. Most of what I am doing I do for myself. I am finding mystery shopping to be fun and interesting. It is also educational. I have never met so many incompetent car salesmen in my life. I also found a great bank with better customer service than I have ever received from any bank. My Suburban gets serviced, my tires checked and rotated until they are dizzy and I get to look around hardware stores on my way to a gas station for a dollar's worth of gas.
My spelling has improve somewhat, I now have three thesauri on my computer, and I have a ball trying to figure out how to explain what I meant when I wrote that "I was most favorably unimpressed by a completely underwhelming tour through the factory brochure ledby throughly disinterested salesman." (Yeah, I know facts - just the facts - nothing but the facts - keep the opinions to myself - but what I am I supposed to say when the editor asks me why I would not return to this dealer to buy a car for $49,000 from a salesman who didn't even ask if I had a name or what sort of car I was looking for?)
I apprecaite your civility. I am currently just a tourist in this industry and maybe some day many decades in future after I have done many thousands of shops I might have paid my dues - oh wait I live in a Right To Work state - I don't have to pay dues.
I am learning a lot by reading the various posts but I must admit that I am surprised at the repetitive nature of many of the questions posed.
Shopping South Texas where there are miles and miles between each of the miles to every shop.
P T, Congratulations and Happy Holidays.
Mary Davis Nowell. Based close to Fort Worth. Shopping Interstate 20 east and west, Interstate 35 north and south.
@MDavisnowell:
The same to you. Merry Christmas to you and yours!
The same to you. Merry Christmas to you and yours!
Shopping South Texas where there are miles and miles between each of the miles to every shop.
PT Burke -
Any chance you could share those 11 sites you have found to have trojans? I for one do not want to land on one of those sites. I would assume a new topic in this forum discussing MSCs would be appropriate??
Any chance you could share those 11 sites you have found to have trojans? I for one do not want to land on one of those sites. I would assume a new topic in this forum discussing MSCs would be appropriate??
ShopperOnDuty Wrote:
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> PT Burke -
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> Any chance you could share those 11 sites you have
> found to have trojans? I for one do not want to
> land on one of those sites. I would assume a new
> topic in this forum discussing MSCs would be
> appropriate??
Or how 'bout that longer list? I personally prefer the ShopMetrics platform, but most of what is available to link to MsJobBoard.com seem to be international..
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> PT Burke -
>
> Any chance you could share those 11 sites you have
> found to have trojans? I for one do not want to
> land on one of those sites. I would assume a new
> topic in this forum discussing MSCs would be
> appropriate??
Or how 'bout that longer list? I personally prefer the ShopMetrics platform, but most of what is available to link to MsJobBoard.com seem to be international..
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