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I do the $10 shops if they work into a route, I have time, and they're not complicated. Really, I'm not desperate. If editors have a question I send them an answer. If I do my job correctly in the first place, they don't have a question so that's all on me. I checked my spreadsheet one year and I had done over 200 of those $10 shops, and that money spent and saved just like any other $2,000 earned. In a five year period that would be over $10,000 I'd be happy to tuck away. It all depends on the person. I know a lot of shoppers won't work for $10, but I will if the situation is right. Okay, call me desperate, but at the same time you can call me financially independent.
jenrparris, keep signing up and you'll find companies that have better paying shops. If you concentrate on the better paying shops you'll make more money per shop, but if you do both better paying and moderately paying shops combined you'll make more money overall because you'll do more shops. The trick is to schedule those moderately paying shops into a route so you're not driving any extra and you can bump up the total income from the day's route without bumping up the mileage expense or driving time.
jenrparris, keep signing up and you'll find companies that have better paying shops. If you concentrate on the better paying shops you'll make more money per shop, but if you do both better paying and moderately paying shops combined you'll make more money overall because you'll do more shops. The trick is to schedule those moderately paying shops into a route so you're not driving any extra and you can bump up the total income from the day's route without bumping up the mileage expense or driving time.
Mary Davis Nowell. Based close to Fort Worth. Shopping Interstate 20 east and west, Interstate 35 north and south.
Not being nosy, but I just want to check your math. Have you done 200 of the $10.00 shops for $2000.00--which is what you said you earned, or 2000 of the $10.00 shops, for $20,000.00, which is what you'd have earned if you'd done as many as you said you had?
I used to do shipping shops for bonus but lately they go for cheap and no bonus. I guess some shoppers are happy with low pay.
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shopbenb
Shopping North MS, NW AL, W TN
Shopping North MS, NW AL, W TN
shopbenb, you should edit your post and remove the name of the client. It goes against the forum guidelines and is a violation of most MSCs. Thanks.
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"I prefer someone who burns the flag and then wraps themselves up in the Constitution over someone who burns the Constitution and then wraps themselves up in the flag." -Molly Ivins
Never try to teach a pig to sing. It's a waste of your time and it really annoys the pig.
To date, I've done about 150 shops for BARE and love it. They're one of my favorite MSCs to work with. The schedulers I had reply back fast and are easy to interact with. Hats off to them in my book.
All I can say is to AVOID both Bare & IntelliShop...They are "Two Peas in a Pod"...Separated at birth??
Too much overhead in their operations result in lower shopper pay...sad but true!
Too much overhead in their operations result in lower shopper pay...sad but true!
Sue Lloyd Wrote:
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> I have done over 600 shops for Bare. True, the
> fees are low but the schedulers are the finest in
> the business and you can actually converse with
> them in an intelligent manner. I have given them
> every opportunity to s----- me and they have
> always been fair. I did have an issue with a new
> editor and when I discussed it with my scheduler,
> it was resolved in my favor quickly. The trick is
> to make a route of their shops and calculate the
> times to fall within that 35 min rule (absurd rule
> by the way) and do your work. The fees add up
> quickly.
How can you "route" when only four shops are allowed with 35 minutes in between? Have you gotten permission to do more than four a day?
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> I have done over 600 shops for Bare. True, the
> fees are low but the schedulers are the finest in
> the business and you can actually converse with
> them in an intelligent manner. I have given them
> every opportunity to s----- me and they have
> always been fair. I did have an issue with a new
> editor and when I discussed it with my scheduler,
> it was resolved in my favor quickly. The trick is
> to make a route of their shops and calculate the
> times to fall within that 35 min rule (absurd rule
> by the way) and do your work. The fees add up
> quickly.
How can you "route" when only four shops are allowed with 35 minutes in between? Have you gotten permission to do more than four a day?
Not my circus - Not my monkeys @(*.*)@
~Polish Proverb~
~Polish Proverb~
It depends where you are and what your needs are. I live in a major metropolitan city with a post office every few blocks. I know the times they are usually empty or the wait is max 3 minutes, and take 2-3 locations that are around where I would be that day, just as I take a fast food/quick serve/convenience store that would be on that way. I do not have to drive, as each location is within 5 minute walking distance. I usually sent stuff to my college student child, one shampoo bottle etc wrapped with all these alternative newspapers/brochures you find for free in the boxes around town. Report/shop/box preparation less than 15 min, I have not have any questions from the editors.
As for Intellishop, they have from a pain shops, to easy upscale hotels without a 38 pages report, easy and good pay special projects, FUN entertainment shops (among them a major famous world renown romantic place that has been depicted in the movies many times), luxury clothing, great concerts, sports arenas, etc. Nothing is hidden, they are all posted on the job board.
As for Intellishop, they have from a pain shops, to easy upscale hotels without a 38 pages report, easy and good pay special projects, FUN entertainment shops (among them a major famous world renown romantic place that has been depicted in the movies many times), luxury clothing, great concerts, sports arenas, etc. Nothing is hidden, they are all posted on the job board.
Hello, Ishmael. For the spreadsheet I checked, I did over 200 of the $10 shops, which amounted to over $2,000 for that year. Assuming I continued the same annual rate of over $2,000 per year, in a five year period that would amount to over $10,000. At the end of 2013 I will have shopped for four full years plus part of 2009.
When I was very young I started looking at income and expenses on an annual basis. In 1957 I worked for Dan, who bought a newspaper every morning, read it before work started, and laid it aside. I bought a newspaper every lunch period, read it during lunch, and laid it aside. He mentioned to me it was a waste of money for me to buy a paper when I could read his. I said it was only a nickel and didn't matter. He pointed out my papers at five cents each costs $1.10 a month for 22 work days and over $13.00 annually. At that time $13.00 would buy a wonderful dinner and a drink for two people. This advice came from a man who was highly paid and affluent, and was a lesson in practicality for me. I learned a lot from Dan Cunningham about the oil and gas business and about nickel newspapers and such small issues of daily life.
When I was very young I started looking at income and expenses on an annual basis. In 1957 I worked for Dan, who bought a newspaper every morning, read it before work started, and laid it aside. I bought a newspaper every lunch period, read it during lunch, and laid it aside. He mentioned to me it was a waste of money for me to buy a paper when I could read his. I said it was only a nickel and didn't matter. He pointed out my papers at five cents each costs $1.10 a month for 22 work days and over $13.00 annually. At that time $13.00 would buy a wonderful dinner and a drink for two people. This advice came from a man who was highly paid and affluent, and was a lesson in practicality for me. I learned a lot from Dan Cunningham about the oil and gas business and about nickel newspapers and such small issues of daily life.
Mary Davis Nowell. Based close to Fort Worth. Shopping Interstate 20 east and west, Interstate 35 north and south.
The Latte Factor. I wish someone had taught me that at a young age rather than having to figure it out later.
Equal rights for others does not mean fewer rights for you. It's not pie.
"I prefer someone who burns the flag and then wraps themselves up in the Constitution over someone who burns the Constitution and then wraps themselves up in the flag." -Molly Ivins
Never try to teach a pig to sing. It's a waste of your time and it really annoys the pig.
"I prefer someone who burns the flag and then wraps themselves up in the Constitution over someone who burns the Constitution and then wraps themselves up in the flag." -Molly Ivins
Never try to teach a pig to sing. It's a waste of your time and it really annoys the pig.
I must be too old to know what the "latte factor" is, but I suspect it's to do with the fact that many people refuse to cut back on their daily or weekly lattes to save money because it's "only $2.75" or whatever. Not realizing that over time that money adds up to quite a bit, money that can be saved or put toward something much more important!
I had a hard time convincing my two kids to pack their lunches at least two times a week each to save money. They thought I was crazy, because lunch is "only" $2.25 a day. Once I did the math and showed them that we could save enough money over the course of one school year to pay for at least one night in a hotel--either to add on to our vacation in "vacation years" or to use for a weekend "getaway" night--they got it! Now the oldest boy packs his lunch every day! (Well, partly because he doesn't like the school's food but also because he likes spending the night in a hotel every once in awhile!)
I worked with a guy once who used to say "watch the pennies and the dollars will watch themselves." He was right, but unfortunately this guy took that to the point where he was cheap, cheap, cheap. Frugal and knowing what to save on or what to do to increase income incrementally is one thing, cheap to the point of squeaking is another!
I had a hard time convincing my two kids to pack their lunches at least two times a week each to save money. They thought I was crazy, because lunch is "only" $2.25 a day. Once I did the math and showed them that we could save enough money over the course of one school year to pay for at least one night in a hotel--either to add on to our vacation in "vacation years" or to use for a weekend "getaway" night--they got it! Now the oldest boy packs his lunch every day! (Well, partly because he doesn't like the school's food but also because he likes spending the night in a hotel every once in awhile!)
I worked with a guy once who used to say "watch the pennies and the dollars will watch themselves." He was right, but unfortunately this guy took that to the point where he was cheap, cheap, cheap. Frugal and knowing what to save on or what to do to increase income incrementally is one thing, cheap to the point of squeaking is another!
I learn something new every day, but not everyday!
I've learned to never trust spell-check or my phone's auto-fill feature.
I've learned to never trust spell-check or my phone's auto-fill feature.
What I did when my kids were 5-6 yrs old was to give them a whopping $5 bill and let them loose in ToysRUs. I told them you can get anything you want. So they started collecting different toys, filled the cart while keep asking whether they could get the toys that I had previously told them were too expensive to buy. They did the math, and at the end decided not to buy anything and keep the $5 to buy something bigger. But thye learned the lesson. Until then, whenever I was telling them I had no money, they would say, "But mom you have money. Pay with the credit card."
Kate, we've done similar with that with our kids, and most often they'll wait and save up their money to get something "big" they really want, rather than a few trinkets at a time they end up not using. The younger one figured that out really fast, but it took the older one a little longer.... And he's the one who figured it out faster about the lunches. Go figure.
I learn something new every day, but not everyday!
I've learned to never trust spell-check or my phone's auto-fill feature.
I've learned to never trust spell-check or my phone's auto-fill feature.
Those $10.00 shops along with serveral other low paying shops can be in the same area and when done on the same trip can be feasible. Last week, I drove 40 minutes to do a fast food shop, 2 cell phone, a technology shop, and donated and shopped a Goodwill. And on the way home I treated myself to ice cream - by the way - also a shop. I enjoyed the food, did not have to pay out of my pocket at the cell phone shops or the technology shop. I got rid of some extras when I completed the 'Donation' portion and instead of buying something to donate later, I purchased candy for the holidays.
I believe those $10.00 shops can be 'worth getting out of bed for'--especially when you plan around them.
I believe those $10.00 shops can be 'worth getting out of bed for'--especially when you plan around them.
I might take a $10 shop if it's a purchase for something I need. I just took two for designer coffee beans for the holiday blend, which is always good.
The other reason I might take one is for experience for a type of shop I haven't done before if it's something out of my comfort zone.
Otherwise, unless I can put a route together, I'm not getting out of bed for one either!
The other reason I might take one is for experience for a type of shop I haven't done before if it's something out of my comfort zone.
Otherwise, unless I can put a route together, I'm not getting out of bed for one either!
Sunshine wrote.... "Last week, I drove 40 minutes to do a fast food shop, 2 cell phone, a technology shop, and donated and shopped a Goodwill."
I practically live at Goodwill...do they get shopped...if so could you PM me with more info?...
I practically live at Goodwill...do they get shopped...if so could you PM me with more info?...
Bare used to be a great company to do shops for and used to pay vary well then they have gone down hill
Are you saying they've gone downhill because fees are lower? I don't know what shops you've been doing for them, but fees on shops I do have stayed the same. I don't see many shops for them in my area.
Mary Davis Nowell. Based close to Fort Worth. Shopping Interstate 20 east and west, Interstate 35 north and south.
I have no problem doing the shipping shops at $10 if I'm driving right by the place anyway. I have never been in one longer than 10 minutes and a report has never taken me longer than 10 minutes. $10 for 20 minutes of work is $30 per hour. I would guess less than 5% of shoppers are averaging $30 an hour.
There are reasons that a body stays in motion
At the moment only demons come to mind
At the moment only demons come to mind
BirdyC Wrote:
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> I must be too old to know what the "latte factor"
> is, but I suspect it's to do with the fact that
> many people refuse to cut back on their daily or
> weekly lattes to save money because it's "only
> $2.75" or whatever. Not realizing that over time
> that money adds up to quite a bit, money that can
> be saved or put toward something much more
> important!
>
>You are right, Birdy. The term comes from books written by an author named David Bach. His first book was "Smart Women Finish Rich." I believe it was in that book that he wrote about the latte factor.
I had a most puzzling experience (puzzling to me, anyway) some years back. I worked for an employer that provided free coffee to employees. People would still come in to work with four dollar coffees from Dunkin' Donuts. I could never understand it. Of course, Dunkin' has the flavored coffees and the employer didn't, but still for free I was fine with getting used to what the employer supplied.
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> I must be too old to know what the "latte factor"
> is, but I suspect it's to do with the fact that
> many people refuse to cut back on their daily or
> weekly lattes to save money because it's "only
> $2.75" or whatever. Not realizing that over time
> that money adds up to quite a bit, money that can
> be saved or put toward something much more
> important!
>
>You are right, Birdy. The term comes from books written by an author named David Bach. His first book was "Smart Women Finish Rich." I believe it was in that book that he wrote about the latte factor.
I had a most puzzling experience (puzzling to me, anyway) some years back. I worked for an employer that provided free coffee to employees. People would still come in to work with four dollar coffees from Dunkin' Donuts. I could never understand it. Of course, Dunkin' has the flavored coffees and the employer didn't, but still for free I was fine with getting used to what the employer supplied.
"Evolve thyself and lose all hate...." Orphaned Land
As someone who loves a really good cup of coffee I came up with a compromise between drinking tasteless coffee ground months ago just because it was free and stopping by Starbuck's or Panera. When possible I would take a mini coffee maker for my office or if that was not an option one of several devices for creating single cups using my own freshly ground coffee. To this day I will take my own coffee on road trips.
Equal rights for others does not mean fewer rights for you. It's not pie.
"I prefer someone who burns the flag and then wraps themselves up in the Constitution over someone who burns the Constitution and then wraps themselves up in the flag." -Molly Ivins
Never try to teach a pig to sing. It's a waste of your time and it really annoys the pig.
"I prefer someone who burns the flag and then wraps themselves up in the Constitution over someone who burns the Constitution and then wraps themselves up in the flag." -Molly Ivins
Never try to teach a pig to sing. It's a waste of your time and it really annoys the pig.
The fees have gone down and the editors have gotten bad. They want to write a novel for such low pay.
bgriffin Wrote:
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> I have no problem doing the shipping shops at $10
> if I'm driving right by the place anyway. I have
> never been in one longer than 10 minutes and a
> report has never taken me longer than 10 minutes.
> $10 for 20 minutes of work is $30 per hour. I
> would guess less than 5% of shoppers are averaging
> $30 an hour.
I enjoy the shipping shops and will do the first two (although I haven't done the 2nd one yet) for $10, but I won't do the third shop anymore unless they raise the fee. By the time I go out to find the right size box (ALL the sizes they specify are hard to find locally, and some cost more than the reimbursement amount) and buying items to put in it, it ends up not being worth it, even though the fee is higher. I try to just use what I have on hand, but always have to supplement. The fee for the one I did in August was higher than the one I did in October--so it looks like Bare did lower the base fee on that. Not much, but enough to make a difference. I can buy a couple packages of dry soup, stuffing mix, or pasta at the local grocery outlet to put in the box, for the difference....
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/08/2013 09:00PM by BirdyC.
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> I have no problem doing the shipping shops at $10
> if I'm driving right by the place anyway. I have
> never been in one longer than 10 minutes and a
> report has never taken me longer than 10 minutes.
> $10 for 20 minutes of work is $30 per hour. I
> would guess less than 5% of shoppers are averaging
> $30 an hour.
I enjoy the shipping shops and will do the first two (although I haven't done the 2nd one yet) for $10, but I won't do the third shop anymore unless they raise the fee. By the time I go out to find the right size box (ALL the sizes they specify are hard to find locally, and some cost more than the reimbursement amount) and buying items to put in it, it ends up not being worth it, even though the fee is higher. I try to just use what I have on hand, but always have to supplement. The fee for the one I did in August was higher than the one I did in October--so it looks like Bare did lower the base fee on that. Not much, but enough to make a difference. I can buy a couple packages of dry soup, stuffing mix, or pasta at the local grocery outlet to put in the box, for the difference....
I learn something new every day, but not everyday!
I've learned to never trust spell-check or my phone's auto-fill feature.
I've learned to never trust spell-check or my phone's auto-fill feature.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/08/2013 09:00PM by BirdyC.
Oh I never ever do the C's. Only A, B, and D. That fee needs to at least double to make it worthwhile.
There are reasons that a body stays in motion
At the moment only demons come to mind
At the moment only demons come to mind
bgriffin Wrote:
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> Oh I never ever do the C's. Only A, B, and D.
> That fee needs to at least double to make it
> worthwhile.
I don't think I've ever seen a "D" shop posted in my area. If you can say what it is without revealing the client, would you, please?
And I can see why you don't do the "C" ones; I'm done with those, myself! I like to help people, but I'd rather just write a check out to the charity for the amount of time, effort, and expense involved in the shipping shop!
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> Oh I never ever do the C's. Only A, B, and D.
> That fee needs to at least double to make it
> worthwhile.
I don't think I've ever seen a "D" shop posted in my area. If you can say what it is without revealing the client, would you, please?
And I can see why you don't do the "C" ones; I'm done with those, myself! I like to help people, but I'd rather just write a check out to the charity for the amount of time, effort, and expense involved in the shipping shop!
I learn something new every day, but not everyday!
I've learned to never trust spell-check or my phone's auto-fill feature.
I've learned to never trust spell-check or my phone's auto-fill feature.
I am Ok with $10 shops, even this one $9 shop I do for Marketforce (has the shortest questionnaire ever!) - but only if it's on my way home from work. In the summer when I'm not working, I will just do ones near my house if they are low-paying ones.
D is the same as A, not sure why they gave it a different letter. I think I saw someone explain it on here once but I've forgotten what the reason was.
There are reasons that a body stays in motion
At the moment only demons come to mind
At the moment only demons come to mind
D is not always A. I believe it is the only one that rotates based on the client's needs for that round.
I no longer apply for any $10.00 shops from any MSC. I no longer even read the Job Boards for MSCs that pay less than the equivalent of minima wage. It seems the less the MSC pays, the more they ask for. I no longer do business with 95% of the MSC's I am registered with. I am loving the fee time and being paid a honest shop fee.
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