Ipsos Acquires Maritz...

@bgriffin wrote:

@Lorri Kern KSS wrote:

In all honesty, both Presto and Sassie are SIGNIFICANTLY easier to use than Shop Metrics for both shoppers and schedulers

100% absolutely positively incorrect for shoppers. Perhaps for schedulers, I wouldn't know, but I don't even think about doing reports onsite on my phone with Sassie and I don't leave a Shopmetrics shop without it being submitted already.

I Guess we'll have to agree to disagree. I have done literally hundreds of shops (as a shopper) on both platforms, on Maritz, and many other proprietary systems. Also, I talk to 200-400 shoppers every single day and we have to PULL TEETH to get them to accept the programs we schedule on ShopMetrics. That's where we have to pay the highest bonuses. All of them tell us that it's too complicated and they prefer Sassie. I hear it every single day.

YEMV

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Sassie on phone - zoom in and out on page to read question and find appropriate radio button and hope it accepts where you click (10% of the time it leaves it blank)

Shopmetrics on phone - one question per screen with easy to read text and easy to see button.

I'll take shopmetrics any day.

There are reasons that a body stays in motion
At the moment only demons come to mind
I do almost no shops entered on the phone so have no dog in this race. I have used both Sassie and Shopmetrics. As for entering on computer both are easy. There is plus and minuses to both platforms. I have seen the trend of more companies using shopmetrics now versus when I first started where 80 to 90 percent used sassie. I can see Bgriffin's point of getting the little bubble filled in correctly versus one by one with shopmetrics. Personally one by one would be more annoing to me but alas I don't really enter on the phone. I do like trendsources mobile app which I guess is one by one so now that I think about it perhaps Shopmetrics would be better. To each their own. I just don't get why shoppers would not do a shop because its on shopmetrics as the sole reason. Perhaps the projects on shopmetrics are what are too complicated and not the entering of the reports. Just my 2 cents.

The other platform of Prophet now theres a stupid platform that has never worked right. You can not see shops in your area when they are there. Its hard to impossible to route shop. No way to search by zip code radius. You can't see your entire history just last x number of completed shops. I could go on and on. There is really few shops I do anyway for Prophet.

Shopping Western NY, Northeast and Central PA, and parts of Ohio and West Virginia. Have car will travel anywhere if the monies right.
Truthfully, the best platform (mobile-y) is none of the above! The best one on my phone is Go Spot Check. I can not enter any shops on the other mobile apps. Except sometimes Trendsource for a Scope R. For MaritzCX I have to use Chrome and go in and do the questions first, then when I have 3 bars save and go back and upload pictures. I can only upload so many pictures before it crashes and if you have answered questions they are lost so it's best to do the questions and save first. Go Spot Check I have never had a problem with except when they did the HiFi assignments to take pictures of the coolers and merge them. It would not work for that assignment at all. I enter 98% of all of my assignments at home on my HP desktop.
I do the exact same thing with filling out the text in the report first. So tired of the crashing after just a few pictures uploaded. I spend less time doing it this way than fighting the error message of "Something went wrong, please try again later" Grrr.
@Lorri Kern KSS wrote:

@bgriffin wrote:

@Lorri Kern KSS wrote:

In all honesty, both Presto and Sassie are SIGNIFICANTLY easier to use than Shop Metrics for both shoppers and schedulers

100% absolutely positively incorrect for shoppers. Perhaps for schedulers, I wouldn't know, but I don't even think about doing reports onsite on my phone with Sassie and I don't leave a Shopmetrics shop without it being submitted already.

I Guess we'll have to agree to disagree. I have done literally hundreds of shops (as a shopper) on both platforms, on Maritz, and many other proprietary systems. Also, I talk to 200-400 shoppers every single day and we have to PULL TEETH to get them to accept the programs we schedule on ShopMetrics. That's where we have to pay the highest bonuses. All of them tell us that it's too complicated and they prefer Sassie. I hear it every single day.

YEMV

Lorri,

I know you are always honest and professional but in order to not have any misunderstanding, I think that when you talk negatively about a competitor platform to sassie and praise the surfmerchants products, you should disclose that Mr. Sassie, John Hsu the Co-founder of SurfMerchants is your husband. (Unless anything has changed.)
@whiterosie wrote:

Some of you must have terrible schedulers. I easily complete 100 shops a month for them. Kim and Amy are both very responsive. Kim, in particular, is easily contacted via text and always responds in minutes. I usually contact Amy via email because she responds quickly but can contact via text if it is urgent.

I've had excellent experiences with both Amy Stiffler and Kim too, including with large routes. Both of them are very accommodating and quick to respond. I have a different scheduler for my closest areas right now. She can be great and responsive at times, and at other times, I have to repeat or re-send my request a few days later. Shops here are assigned at the last minute after sitting for a week or two. I've found it just really varies with Ipsos schedulers even more so than with other companies.

(Editing to clarify which Amy, although I haven't had any bad experiences with the other Amy either, just not as many interactions since I don't do that scenario as often.)

Happily shopping the Pacific Northwest. Shopping since 2013 and editing since 2018 smiling smiley


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Time (for me) to go back to FT work over shopping.
It's been a nice ride being an IC. There's no way this turns out good for people who have Maritz as their #1 MSC. Not when you have to "apply for shops" and they try to get everything done in one week, and extend dates out 2-3 days at a time, unlike Maritz, which let you plan much better.
The life of an IC.
Time to grudgingly update the resume.

Yes I totally agree with you . I have noticed shop availability is decreasing across the board. Not sure what is going on out there. Getting my back up plan in action.
I hear a lot of talk about schedulers.... Well, the best scheduler in the world is me.... Nothing beats self assign. That's a major reason why I like Maritz. I don't need to apply and wait for anyone... I am the scheduler... Maritz empowers you and me. It enables you to plan days, weeks, and even a month in advance. Your ability to plan is severely limited, even paralyzed when you are dependent on the response of something/someone other than yourself. I just hope that does not change with the change.
I do not accept shops I cannot do on my phone. I complete 200-300 shops a month.

From my perspective a Mobi (Shopmetrics app) is by far the easiest. Maritz seems to be finally getting the hang of app development. It's working better.

Sassie is the worst to try to do on the phone. There are always so many hidden questions. (And since I do around 100 JITB shops every month, I use Sassie a lot.)

Prophet can be easy or difficult depending on how the company sets up the form. DSG, for example, does a terrible job. NIM does a great job.
As I continue to perform shops for Maritz, I now understand what has been happening since the beginning of the this year.

Last year, shops were bonused nicely and on a timely basis. Since the beginning of this year I have noticed that many of the shops are bonused less often, with much lesser bonuses and, when bonused, the amount stays the same for a much, much, much longer period of time.

It is my belief that the takeover was in the works and, indeed, did occur last year with the understanding that Ipsos would take over in the early part of the new year, slowly injecting their (Ipsos') methods.

It explains the bonusing, the way the "Yellow" shops began being stretched out over a longer period of time, and the subtle, but noticeable change in the way team members talked and acted. It was almost a sadness, or a lack of enthusiasm when I spoke with them.

As sad as I am for us (shoppers), I am so much sadder for them.

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I think the HiFi was a test. It didn't completely work for me either but it still paid. Then I couldn't find a job I went to do untill I logged out of HiFi.
As to Shopmetrics vs, Sassie, I have only experienced a single problem with the former and none with the latter; during the spring of 2017, Shopmetrics began freezing my computer. I contacted the company and was told the standard, "It must be on your end." I changed browsers to Google and the problem was solved. In 2018, I purchased a new computer, but the same problem existed. For me, Shopmetrics and Firefox are not compatible.
Now I'm beginning to wonder if that's why our favorite supervisor (Maritz) left us last year. *Whose name is Latin for ground/land. (Ominous music playing in the background)-Was it the (creepy Edgar Alan Poe voice-over) Beginning of the End? {of the good times}
I've been pondering the implications of this for a couple of days and have come to the conclusion that, though such an acquisition is not, overall good for shoppers, it will be positive for some and negative for others. For those who will be affected negatively, they can overcome it.

* Yes, when we get fewer, but much larger, MSC's, they have much larger shopper bases and are far more likely to have a shopper near those remote shops for which many of us like to get very handsome bonuses. This will sting opportunistic shoppers who like to take advantage of such deals. At the same time, those shoppers who live close to those remote areas, just might find themselves added to a new company and, unexpectedly having access to shops they did not realize existed before. So, while one shopper is hindered, another is helped. It is worth noting that, overall, the MSC likely pays much less to get those remote shops done - which means less overall money going to shopper payments overall.

* Shoppers who only shop for one or two MSC's can find their shopping opportunities either greatly helped (suddenly having access to a whole bunch of new shops nearby) or greatly hindered (no longer getting the payment for routes and far off shops that they used to). In other words, Those of us who shop (almost exclusively) for one or two MSC's can have the most extreme changes in their shopping experiences.

* In order to not be as greatly affected by such acquisitions, shoppers should really diversify. Let's face it: the majority of shops offered by both MaritzCX and Iposos are not that much "better" or "worse" than what most MSC's offer - at least financially. The "benefits" of working with them is that they are both huge companies with huge clients (so they generally have shops available) and are genuinely pleasant folks - and they both pay more quickly than the industry norms. By signing on with other MSC's, shoppers can find other (financially equivalent) work with other MSC's and not be at the random/unexpected mercy of such mergers and acquisitions.

Other benefits of diversifying our work:

* Sometimes MSC's cease operations (NSS, Service Check, Harland-Clarke, and Monterrey come to mind immediately, but there have absolutely been more in the last few years). Sometimes, when this happens, shoppers get stiffed. A shopper who exclusively works for one company can be greatly affected when this happens. However, if a shopper regularly works for 10-15 MSC's, though a company going under might "sting," the shopper will be far more likely to weather the storm.

* If a shopper is only with one or two companies, s/he is competing with all the other shoppers who are registered with those companies for the same work. This allows the MSC to lower compensation for jobs, seeing if somebody will take it for "just one dollar less." However, if a shopper is with 100+ companies, the shopper can pick and choose the work s/he wants - putting the onus on the MSC's to compete with one-another.

* Diversifying also includes shopping different industries. No, not all shops are for everybody. I don't do reveal audits, shops with "adult" experiences, pot stores, or anything where I have to consume extremely unhealthy food. But, I do shop: apartments, new homes, parking lots, banks, retail, car dealerships, gas stations, convenience stores, car washes, post offices, etc. What I do on a month-to-month basis changes with what my MSC's really need done. In other words, my diversification allows me to be flexible - and profitable.

* If you live in a heavily populated area, signing up with 100 MSC's will likely put more work at your fingertips than you could ever handle as most MSC's will have *something* with some regularity. If you live in a more rural area there is no argument: There is less work to be done (but also, in theory, less competition) and signing up with different MSC's can seem fruitless. However, if there are national stores, banks, apartments, home buildings, etc. in the towns where you shop, there are MSC's that serve them. There are several small towns within a two hour drive of me that MSC's have a terrible time getting shopped. I try to make it out to most of them once or twice a year - and I always do well. I also know that there are shoppers in those areas as some shops for bigger MSC's (Ipsos, for instance) are picked up at base value. In other words, I know of small towns where $12 Ipsos and $6 MaritzCX shops get snatched up every month, but easy bank inquiries, car washes and convenience stores don't get picked up at $40 and $50! (Yes, I do agree that if you truly live in Timbuktu and are 200 miles from the nearest "population center" of 1000 residents, finding mystery shopping work nearby will be difficult - fewer folks means fewer opportunities to shop. I do, however, still argue that you give yourself the best shot at finding what work is there by signing up with lots of companies.)

In other words, while I agree that acquisitions such as this are not really all that good for shoppers as a whole, I do not believe that it has to be catastrophic for any one shopper. As IC's we have the ability to set our own course and create our own success. Shoppers who are well-diversified will be fine. Those who hang on to just one or two companies are at risk of running out of opportunities - just like what happens when a huge client moves their business from one MSC to another.

Hard work builds character and homework is good for your soul.
MF Johnson: It doesn't always work that way depending on your part of the country. I am registered with several platforms; GigSpot, Presto, isecretshop and many companies, I stopped counting when I got to 100. There are bank and apartment jobs out here that pay 40-50 a shop. But the report takes significantly longer to do and wears my brain out. Why spend 2-3 hours inputting a report when I can do 3x as many gas stations shop + input with considerable less brain strain? Super Shoppers (superhero) get all my respect because I just don't know how they can maintain that volume on an ongoing basis. Gas stations have allowed me to make the same amount of money (as I see in my state) without my life being consumed by the computer. I do an occasional brain-strain assignment when I see fit. when it's something that interests me. But every single day on an ongoing basis is to much stress on me. Including the fact that if I've spent 3+ hours on a report and the editor comes back to play 20 questions that is even more stressful for me. I discovered Maritz's gas stations and they became my bread and butter. I have enough stress on my life with grown children, (and all the issues that come with that), and a stubborn hard-headed man who can NOT keep a food budget to save his life. (diagnosed with prediabetes and slightly elevated cholesterol and high blood pressure and has no concept of portion control and thinks that leftovers and cookies should be consumed within 24 hours [ie ASAP]) (we argue because of this) {if he doesn't get some portion control soon he will end up with full-blown diabetes and when meals are preplanned he thinks he's starving to death and has nothing to eat and becomes a whining baby). [I think he also has some anger because I'm overweight and in better health and he's not overweight and doesn't think it's fair]Trust me I don't need editorial stress too. I'm in a midsized town with a moderate amount of shops available at any given moment. It's not the greatest but it's nowhere near the worst and when I first started I didn't think there was much to do until I registered with so many companies.
edited for grammar corrections.

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I do almost zero work on the iSecretShop platform anymore. I dumped Gigspot. I don't use Presto. Effectively, these platforms allow smaller MSC's to reach a larger number of shoppers than they would normally have on their roles.... I far prefer being able to work directly with a company. I also rarely take apartments shops for as little as $50. (The exception being when I am bored and there is a video visit with no need to make an appointment and no written report - that is right near me.)

Supply-and-Demand works everywhere. What you are describing are limitations not due to shopping opportunities, but due to other factors. Yes, when folks have other "things" in life that limit their abilities to shop, whether they be family, health, or something completely different, they might find the shops they can reasonably approach more restricted. I am limited by a refusal to eat certain foods and total avoidance of reveals. That does hurt my opportunity.

Hard work builds character and homework is good for your soul.
IDK, MF Johnson, maybe I really should invest in video equipment. I haven't seen a lot of video assignments in my area, but I haven't looked very hard either. I'd absolutely love the idea of uploading a video and not typing a report.
@F and L TeleComm wrote:

I'd absolutely love the idea of uploading a video and not typing a report.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
In most cases the report is definitely shorter but "not typing a report" is definitely not the case 99 times out of 100.

There are reasons that a body stays in motion
At the moment only demons come to mind
Damn, you are one picky individual (coming from someone who is particular). What kind of foods do you not like, inquiring minds want to know?

@MFJohnston wrote:

I do almost zero work on the iSecretShop platform anymore. I dumped Gigspot. I don't use Presto. Effectively, these platforms allow smaller MSC's to reach a larger number of shoppers than they would normally have on their roles.... I far prefer being able to work directly with a company. I also rarely take apartments shops for as little as $50. (The exception being when I am bored and there is a video visit with no need to make an appointment and no written report - that is right near me.)

Supply-and-Demand works everywhere. What you are describing are limitations not due to shopping opportunities, but due to other factors. Yes, when folks have other "things" in life that limit their abilities to shop, whether they be family, health, or something completely different, they might find the shops they can reasonably approach more restricted. I am limited by a refusal to eat certain foods and total avoidance of reveals. That does hurt my opportunity.
Well that's a given, but probably isn't a food served much at the restaurants in the NW Pacific region where MFJ shops?
I actually like most food - really. (Foods I truly hate: cauliflower, most squashes, eggplants. Foods I just don't want to try: Liver, Rocky Mountain Oysters). I started making a point of eating healthy some time ago, however, and after doing so, my palate changed as did my stomach's tolerance to some foods....

While I actually love a good burger and good fries, if I eat them, the grease can make me feel bloated and a bit nauseated. I find that non-diet sodas are too sweet - it's like drinking syrup.... What do I eat? Breakfasts: oatmeal, non-sugary cereals (i.e. original Cheerios, Wheat Chex, Shredded Wheat, etc.) , eggs, fresh fruit... Lunches: sandwiches on whole grain breads with lean meats and lots of veggies (no mayonnaise), green salads, fresh fruit... Dinner: Lean meats, baked potatoes, veggies (preferably steamed), green salads...

Things I avoid: foods with added sugar and salt; fatty and greasy foods...

We can find okra up here.. It is reasonably common (though seasonal) at seafood restaurants (which are everywhere as we do seafood very well up here - especially salmon.)

@JASFLALMT wrote:

Well that's a given, but probably isn't a food served much at the restaurants in the NW Pacific region where MFJ shops?

Hard work builds character and homework is good for your soul.
I was referring in particular to okra being served at places that get shopped in your area...

Okra and salmon do not belong on a plate together.

I'd say 5 Guys is a step (or several) above JITB. Just my opinion. I rarely eat many of the fries. They have vitamin water as a fountain drink choice at locations here. But I rarely do the shops anyway.
I think that the lady who answered this morning said, "This is the company formerly known as Maritz."

Something like that.
@KateH wrote:

@Lorri Kern KSS wrote:

@bgriffin wrote:

@Lorri Kern KSS wrote:

In all honesty, both Presto and Sassie are SIGNIFICANTLY easier to use than Shop Metrics for both shoppers and schedulers

100% absolutely positively incorrect for shoppers. Perhaps for schedulers, I wouldn't know, but I don't even think about doing reports onsite on my phone with Sassie and I don't leave a Shopmetrics shop without it being submitted already.

I Guess we'll have to agree to disagree. I have done literally hundreds of shops (as a shopper) on both platforms, on Maritz, and many other proprietary systems. Also, I talk to 200-400 shoppers every single day and we have to PULL TEETH to get them to accept the programs we schedule on ShopMetrics. That's where we have to pay the highest bonuses. All of them tell us that it's too complicated and they prefer Sassie. I hear it every single day.

YEMV

Lorri,

I know you are always honest and professional but in order to not have any misunderstanding, I think that when you talk negatively about a competitor platform to sassie and praise the surfmerchants products, you should disclose that Mr. Sassie, John Hsu the Co-founder of SurfMerchants is your husband. (Unless anything has changed.)

So. That explains it!

sestrahelena
I find that libelous and slanderous! (I forget which is which, written or oral.)

Okra belongs on a plate with EVERYTHING, or with NOTHING!!!!

smiling smiley

@JASFLALMT wrote:

I was referring in particular to okra being served at places that get shopped in your area...

Okra and salmon do not belong on a plate together.

I'd say 5 Guys is a step (or several) above JITB. Just my opinion. I rarely eat many of the fries. They have vitamin water as a fountain drink choice at locations here. But I rarely do the shops anyway.
@Lorri Kern KSS wrote:

That's where we have to pay the highest bonuses.

It is all in the perspective. It sounds to me like you're saying that the Shopmetrics platform offers a more reliably profitable experience for shoppers. That's good information to know.

I am fluent in both Shopmetrics and Sassie (and several others). I happily use whatever platform is favored by the MSCs that offer me an opportunity for a fair profit in exchange for my honest, reliable work. I hadn't noticed that extra bonus opportunity you're mentioning flowing with certain platforms but I will watch for it.

Thanks for the tip.
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