No, I have not been contacted.

This whole thing sounds sketchy to me. It seems like a bait and switch to get people to sign up and do the no-purchase shops. Let's see if any of the regular posters makes a claim that they completed a shop and were reimbursed $500.

@audrialyn30 wrote:

No, I have not been contacted.

I have been working with them since they were ME. I always had a good experience. They might not be available in my market.

I haven't seen or done any of the mattress purchase shops for White-Clay, but, as a long-time forum member, I thought I would comment on the company. I've worked with White-Clay since 2011. All the shops I have done are mattress shops. They pay more for the mattress shops than any of the other companies pay for mattress shops, so they have been my first choice for mattress shops. They are my favorite for other reasons, too:

1. When they schedule the shops, they give me a big window (usually 5-7 days) in which to do the shop. I'm not locked in to one or two days.

2. They have always been very responsive. I had a problem on one shop - location had unexpectedly moved to another place - and I got an immediate response and reschedule, with payment for both shops.

3. I had an unusual experience on a shop, which I reported in detail. The report was accepted without question and I was paid.

4. Pay is always right on time through PayPal. Never a problem.

5. They are very NICE. Ziggy is usually the editor. He always emails after he edits and accepts the report. He has never asked for more information before approving the report, and he always adds some kind of nice compliment about the shopper being a great writer or how he loves reading the shopper's reports.

6. The biggest reason: When he emails the report acceptance, about 3/4 of the time Ziggy adds a surprise bonus of $3-5 for an "outstanding report" or "great work" or "you're the best!"

They don't have a lot of shops in my area and I've never seen a non-mattress shop. Too bad. White-Clay is my favorite MSC and I would love to do more shops for them. I would do a big-purchase mattress shop, or any almost any other kind of shop they post.

To add to roflwofl's comments, in addition to mattress jobs, I have completed hair cut and eateries for ME/WC; all without the slightest hitch. It is my belief, the $500 shops were available where the client deemed them necessary and not any attempt to run a bait and switch. Never, to my knowledge, has ME/WC displayed any indication they are a sliver short of being a reputable MSC of the highest caliber. .

Roflwofl & Shopperbob, thank you both for your insights. I have shopped WC when they were ME, and never had a problem with them. My brain just can't comprehend why Ziggy would ask 2 shoppers to come write about their experiences involving mattress-purchase/reimbursement shops which Ziggy himself ADMITS are privately assigned and NEVER SEEN on the shopper job board! What is the point in that if the rest of us can't at least apply for one? I don't understand his reasoning in doing this and don't see how it benefits ANY shopper here if the shops are indeed hidden, secret and rare. I have NO issues with WC itself....it's just this posting by 2 shoppers for a shop that is never seen on the boards. What's the point???

guysmom inquires--.it's just this posting by 2 shoppers for a shop that is never seen on the boards. What's the point???

Bob's thought--As I have been self-employed for 57 years, I can relate to the question. On several occasions, I have been guilty of asking myself what was served by my actions. While they seemed logical at the time, they were counter productive in that they served no purpose. I, of course, do not know what was in Ziggy's mind, but, predicated upon my past decade of experience with his MSC, I am as positive as possible requesting the two posters detail their experiences was in no way an attempt to "hood wink" anyone. In addition, I am also as positive he never imagined anyone would take exception to the posts.

Appreciate the feedback on the MSC. Will have a better feeling about it if/when one of you reports that you did a mattress purchase shop and were reimbursed $500 24 hours later (as claimed by the OP).

@shopperbob wrote:

I am as positive as possible requesting the two posters detail their experiences was in no way an attempt to "hood wink" anyone.

Yes, I agree with your statement here.

@MSF wrote:

Appreciate the feedback on the MSC. Will have a better feeling about it if/when one of you reports that you did a mattress purchase shop and were reimbursed $500 24 hours later (as claimed by the OP).

Yes, I agree that it would help me to have one of the more regular and well-known posters here on the Forum come here and relate their experiences doing such a shop, including the 24 hour turnaround in being reimbursed for the $500. As it turns out, for both posters, this was their very first post, even though one of the posters has been a member for nearly 2 years. So yes, I would like to see someone else post about this who is more familiar with the regular Forum posters. Is there any regular Forum poster out there who could report on this particular shop??? And not just shopping for WC/ME??? Because as I've said, I also have shopped for WC/ME with no issues whatsover.....on their regular, much lower-paying shops, that is.

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Posts are being made about White Clay. How many shoppers have signed up for this MSC based on this thread? Something to think about.

@guysmom wrote:

What is the point in that if the rest of us can't at least apply for one?

I think that was Ziggy's plan: to use this disingenuous post promising reimbursement within 24 hours for the purchase of a new bed to get new shoppers to sign up and do the no-purchase shops.

@HonnyBrown wrote:

Posts are being made about White Clay. How many shoppers have signed up for this MSC based on this thread? Something to think about.

@guysmom wrote:

What is the point in that if the rest of us can't at least apply for one?

Why so bitter and mistrustful? Did you work for them and got burned?

I have done dozens of non purchase shops for ME/WC over the past 7 years. The fees are fair, report expectations set out clearly in the guidelines. I do not see the non purchase shops lingering on the job board for weeks.

Edited to remove a paragraph not relevant to the topic.

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I have none of these shops in OK, In fact I doubt that WC even has shops here that are closer than a couple of hundred miles.

Ziggy, do you have any of these shops in Texas? I'd be interested in doing one.

I'd like to do one of these in South Carolina!

MSF opines--I think that was Ziggy's plan: to use this disingenuous post promising reimbursement within 24 hours for the purchase of a new bed to get new shoppers to sign up and do the no-purchase shops.

Bob disagrees--The non-purchase mattress shops in my area pay $30 and do not require either a target or a phone call, the MSC does not have any trouble filling those slots. While it is possible other areas are different, knowing how many shoppers will work for low fees, I doubt Ziggy has the slightest problem finding someone for the work. It is my opinion, the purpose of the first two posters was to state reimbursement was rapid.

Some people are just suspicious of everything. Or they are paranoid. Me I'm a cynic. Now get off of my lawn.

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Reimbursement for what? Who (aside from supposedly the two plants at the beginning of this thread) has been offered a $500 reimbursed purchase shop?

@shopperbob wrote:

It is my opinion, the purpose of the first two posters was to state reimbursement was rapid.

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@ZiggyZ. wrote:

Hey, this is Ziggy from White Clay. For some background, I work for a mattress company that only wants LICENSED retailers to sell their products. However, sometimes they identify unlicensed stores that are selling their brand. So their question is, "How are these unlicensed stores getting their hands on our mattresses?"
To answer that, we send people to the unlicensed stores and actually BUY my client's brand. Once we have images of the tags on the mattress, we can trace back where it was manufactured and figure out which licensed vendor is secretly selling the beds to the unlicensed stores, then put a stop to it.

It's difficult to get people to front the money for purchases this large. I actually asked those shoppers to come here and vouch for the legitimacy of the project so that other shoppers feel comfortable that we'll reimburse them within hours of the purchase.

Hit me up with questions. Thanks, everyone!
-Z

Lori Kern, KSS, has a whole list of shoppers nationwide that do these types of jobs frequently.

Personally, unless the mattress was way over $500, it's not something that I would use/need. I would send it off with one of the kids to college though.

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@SoCalMama wrote:

Personally, unless the mattress was way over $500, it's not something that I would use/need.

@MSF wrote:

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@SoCalMama wrote:

Personally, unless the mattress was way over $500, it's not something that I would use/need.

Mattresses at Big Lots are over $500.
I don't buy my furniture at Big Lots.

I'm accustomed to high quality mattresses. A few years ago, I was in a bind for one. I got a queen, memory foam mattress from Aldi's for $200. It was meant to hold me over until I could find exactly what I wanted.

It was by far the best mattress I have ever slept on.

@SoCalMama wrote:

Personally, unless the mattress was way over $500, it's not something that I would use/need. I would send it off with one of the kids to college though.

Makes perfect sense now. Thanks for the clarification.

@ZiggyZ. wrote:

Hey, this is Ziggy from White Clay. For some background, I work for a mattress company that only wants LICENSED retailers to sell their products. However, sometimes they identify unlicensed stores that are selling their brand. So their question is, "How are these unlicensed stores getting their hands on our mattresses?"
To answer that, we send people to the unlicensed stores and actually BUY my client's brand. Once we have images of the tags on the mattress, we can trace back where it was manufactured and figure out which licensed vendor is secretly selling the beds to the unlicensed stores, then put a stop to it.

It's difficult to get people to front the money for purchases this large. I actually asked those shoppers to come here and vouch for the legitimacy of the project so that other shoppers feel comfortable that we'll reimburse them within hours of the purchase.

Hit me up with questions. Thanks, everyone!
-Z

@HonnyBrown wrote:

I'm accustomed to high quality mattresses. A few years ago, I was in a bind for one. I got a queen, memory foam mattress from Aldi's for $200. It was meant to hold me over until I could find exactly what I wanted.

It was by far the best mattress I have ever slept on.

@SoCalMama wrote:

Personally, unless the mattress was way over $500, it's not something that I would use/need. I would send it off with one of the kids to college though.

My son picked up a free bed frame from a neighbor, which had been assembled incorrectly. It needed an easy repair and was prefect for a college apartment. His new mattress from IKEA was around $200, which fit the purpose. I think that it was a memory foam mattress as well.

MSF queries--Reimbursement for what?

Bob responds--A mattress.

MSF continues--Who (aside from supposedly the two plants at the beginning of this thread) has been offered a $500 reimbursed purchase shop?

Bob replies--Of course, I do not know, but Ziggy being a business person, would not have wasted his time had there not been a reason for his actions. In my opinion, his explanation was both concise and logical.

If you have ever done one of the regular shops Ziggy's explanation makes complete sense.

@shopperbob wrote:

MSF queries--Reimbursement for what?

Bob responds--A mattress.

MSF continues--Who (aside from supposedly the two plants at the beginning of this thread) has been offered a $500 reimbursed purchase shop?

Bob replies--Of course, I do not know, but Ziggy being a business person, would not have wasted his time had there not been a reason for his actions. In my opinion, his explanation was both concise and logical.

Did anyone take the mattress survey from White Clay? It looked like a precursor for the purchase shops.

I took the survey. I don't think there are going to be a lot of $500 mattress purchase shops, but I took it because the MSC is so nice.

The purpose of the supposed purchase shops is to find product being sold illegally at non-licensed retailers. I'm not sure there is a connection.

@HonnyBrown wrote:

Did anyone take the mattress survey from White Clay? It looked like a precursor for the purchase shops.