IPSOS Gas Shops

Oh, I think they do that, as well.....maybe not a "call", but an email, for sure, as I have received dozens of them.

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In the end it's all about money. Different schedulers have different moral compasses, but in the end they make more money when we make less money. And, the only thing that ipsos cares about is getting the locations done acceptably for the least amount of money possible. So, there is no loyalty. Ipsos does not care about the shoppers, and they do not care about the clients. They don't care if 40% of the clients locations get done in the last 2 weeks of a quarter. They don't care if we make a living wage or not. They just want to pay the least amount possible to get everything done. If that means playing games with shoppers, then so be it. If that means long negotiations and then slipping the whole thing out from under someone when somebody else bids a little lower, so be it. That's just the nature of the game. It sucks, but it's good not to have any expectations above that. All of that said, be strong. If this location that is left is very remote, bid high and be firm.

@salisburync wrote:

I hear you, Thunderdeacon. The 12, then 3, now 1 gas station shops (at a huge bonus because they were remote) that I was all but promised, have evaporated into the wind. I keep on hearing that schedulers are different, that each has their own ethical compass...but I think they all go to the same IPSOS sponsored "Screw 'Em" academy. They all seem to think nothing of leaving us out to dry. Simply assuming that we can change our plans and drive hundreds (if not more) of miles to cover their a$$es, is, in the long run, a fool's play. I need at least three days to plan and execute and road trip, and IPSOS changes the target and availability every few hours....hard to negotiate with a moving and fluid target. So, lesson learned, they will get no special favors from me, and I would advicse anyone reading this post to be very wary. They will lie to you.
In my 18 years as a shopper, I have only completed gas stations for two MSCs: Ritter, when I was driving by the station and Maritz, which were profitable. Ipsos, a company for whom I have logged only eight assignments, none gas, in 10 years, has listed work requiring up to 34 pics + any violations for $15 + $6 reimbursement. Are there shoppers actually agreeing to such work?
@shopperbob wrote:

In my 18 years as a shopper, I have only completed gas stations for two MSCs: Ritter, when I was driving by the station and Maritz, which were profitable. Ipsos, a company for whom I have logged only eight assignments, none gas, in 10 years, has listed work requiring up to 34 pics + any violations for $15 + $6 reimbursement. Are there shoppers actually agreeing to such work?

I took a whole route in my city for $40 plus reimbursement which wasn't terrible. It took me about 45 minutes including report completion each for the yellow stations. I wouldn't do it for base.
I feel so sorry for anybody that's doing it at base pay. From what I saw this time around, the vast majority of the ones in my region were not done at base. I will do them for $30 if they are very close to where I happen to be and there's no travel involved. Then I go up from there.
"Food..I have just about the same time involved with each shop that you mentioned.....for me, it HAS to be $40+, and I took quite a few at $50 these last two weeks. I make some money on those. Ipsos must be committed to a contract that says ALL locations have to be done, or else they wouldn't be freaking out and paying high bonuses. Still, I am still a bit hot under the collar for being begged to do 9 remote shops, then planning the route, making the motel reservations (right when I emailed the scheduler back to take the route), only to have the rug pulled out. I try to do a great job for them, and I assumed they valued that...What I am taking away from this is that no matter how desperate they are, no matter how much they talk about "our cherished shoppers", no matter WHAT...they could give a rat's a$$ about us. ThunderDeacon is right!

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/28/2021 09:33PM by salisburync.
I say we band together as the shoppers who do most of these gas shops and not do them for anything under $75 pay and really make them pay for remote locations at say $150 or more. I know not all the shoppers are on this forum and several will; get done at less but anyone on here who does them lets stick tough and try to force better change for ourselves. I understand there are people who need the money but I ask those people to do other shops that are easier like the post office shops.

Shopping Western NY, Northeast and Central PA, and parts of Ohio and West Virginia. Have car will travel anywhere if the monies right.
@shopperbob wrote:

In my 18 years as a shopper, I have only completed gas stations for two MSCs: Ritter, when I was driving by the station and Maritz, which were profitable. Ipsos, a company for whom I have logged only eight assignments, none gas, in 10 years, has listed work requiring up to 34 pics + any violations for $15 + $6 reimbursement. Are there shoppers actually agreeing to such work?

Some people take them at base in metros where they are highly clustered. They can work a predictable week or two of 8 hours days and make above minimum wage in many places. Others take them when they need gas. I always hold out for much more, but I end up with an unpredictable schedule, 16 hour days, and hotel expenses.
I will only take them in my close metro area with bonus. No reason for me to go remote unless we're well over a hundred bucks. But I'm happy to go 10 miles for 40 plus dollars each and do a couple of night after work. I made over $400 this week that way.
One more thing, as this topic has been beaten to death! -- I get pushback from IPSOS editors regarding these Yellow gas shops, and they ask for me to submit a photo which is missing...not a replacement photo, mind you, but a new photo because they do NOT have my original photo, which I know I submitted (besides, one can't submit the report unless all the photos are present, right?)...can someone tell me what is happening here? Does IPSOS sometimes 'drop' a photo which has been submitted?

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/29/2021 05:33PM by salisburync.
A few things from the inside perspective of a scheduler:

1. 99% of the time, we don't make more when you make less. In fact, our pay rate is set before the program even begins, and usually, the only potential bonus is for us to finish the project early. In which case, we don't want to hold out the bonus money as much as you don't.

2. In the case where you are negotiating for 12 shops but eventually only 3 were available, it's a crappy situation. However, when a route is offered, the scheduler has to send it to the account manager, and if it is a substantial one, the account manager has to send it up also. And when a project is on self-assign, we really can't control if/when another shopper picks it up. And once another shopper assigns it to themselves, for all we know they can do it in the next hour and we can't really retrieve it.

3. Whomever suggested to band together and not accept shops under $75, it sounds like a lovely concept. However, even if 100% of the shoppers on this forum agreed to do so, there are 1,000s of others shoppers who are registered and willing to take majority of locations for less.

4. Always feel free to make an offer above what is listed. The worst thing the company can say is no.

Thank you!

Kate Rattner, Mystery Shop Scheduler

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@BuffaloNY101 wrote:

I say we band together as the shoppers who do most of these gas shops and not do them for anything under $75 pay and really make them pay for remote locations at say $150 or more. [...]

Such proposals are illegal. Shoppers aren't employees. We do not have collective bargaining rights. We are contractors and like any business we cannot engage in price fixing or other restraint of trade activities.
@Rousseau wrote:

@BuffaloNY101 wrote:

I say we band together as the shoppers who do most of these gas shops and not do them for anything under $75 pay and really make them pay for remote locations at say $150 or more. [...]

Such proposals are illegal. Shoppers aren't employees. We do not have collective bargaining rights. We are contractors and like any business we cannot engage in price fixing or other restraint of trade activities.

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Shopping Western NY, Northeast and Central PA, and parts of Ohio and West Virginia. Have car will travel anywhere if the monies right.
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When I was doing these shops (pre-Covid), I used an app to report them, entering photos and answers as I went. It was so much easier than taking photos and entering them online later Is IPSOS still doing this? I asked a scheduler and she said no.
@Archer wrote:

"Such proposals are illegal."
Care to quote some case law?
This is incorrect, friend.

15 U.S. Code ยง 1 makes it a felony to conspire to fix prices.
Thanks for your reply Kate; I always enjoy hearing from you.

I believe you when you say that you don't make more when I make less. That said, I guarantee you that the project managers make more when we make less. I am sure this goes up the line. I am certain that there is a bonus structure for Ipsos management, and a big part of it is keeping projects within budget. This means paying shoppers less.

Best wishes!

I hope I get to work with you again soon.



@krattner wrote:

A few things from the inside perspective of a scheduler:

1. 99% of the time, we don't make more when you make less. In fact, our pay rate is set before the program even begins, and usually, the only potential bonus is for us to finish the project early. In which case, we don't want to hold out the bonus money as much as you don't.

2. In the case where you are negotiating for 12 shops but eventually only 3 were available, it's a crappy situation. However, when a route is offered, the scheduler has to send it to the account manager, and if it is a substantial one, the account manager has to send it up also. And when a project is on self-assign, we really can't control if/when another shopper picks it up. And once another shopper assigns it to themselves, for all we know they can do it in the next hour and we can't really retrieve it.

3. Whomever suggested to band together and not accept shops under $75, it sounds like a lovely concept. However, even if 100% of the shoppers on this forum agreed to do so, there are 1,000s of others shoppers who are registered and willing to take majority of locations for less.

4. Always feel free to make an offer above what is listed. The worst thing the company can say is no.
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