oldbroad Wrote:
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> Hi- In Canada, we round up to a dollar and down to
> a dollar.. I.e 1.87=1.95
> 1.98 =2.00. We don't use pennies any more at all.
> Works just fine

1.87 to 1.85 you mean?

They do that in Australia as well (rounding to the nearest nickel).

What pizza joint - or any restaurant - doesn't give change? I'm guessing this is not a policy of the management, but rather a policy of the kid working behind the counter.

About tipping people who work the counter - no, I don't do that. I hate seeing tip cups at places like McD's.

Your job isn't traditionally a job that people expect to have to tip. I busted my ass at McD's all through high school and never got a tip, nor did I think I was entitled to one. It never occurred to me to set out a tip jar, nor would it have been allowed.

(I was responding to someone, but I don't remember who!)

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I had people throw money at me all the time when I worked at McD's in high school, especially in the drive-thru. Some people didn't even stop, they just threw it in the window as they drove by.

Just to add to the Papa Johns experience. I also have had deliveries from Papa Johns for shops and had the driver not only keep the tip but also the loose change from the bill. I was handed back the bills and thanked then the driver would just turn around and walk away. Although it is not kosher to keep money that does not belong to you I just let it go and reported it on the paperwork. Needless to say that store closed shortly afterwards. I understand restaurant business is hard work having been in it in one way or another most of my life but employees do not have any business keeping money that is not given to them. Would like to hear more posts on this subject.








Living in Indiana saving for Florida

While doing some personal shopping at Barnes & Noble today I stopped in the cafe for a cappuccino and found myself looking for a tip jar. It must not be allowed because there wasn't one in sight.

The same thing happened to us at a fast food restaurant a few months ago. The cashier very pointedly did not give us our change (under a dollar) and greeted the next customer. We waited until they were finished with that order and then politely requested our change. The cashier acted as if they could not believe we actually wanted our change! I went home and wrote a letter immediately to the headquarters in Illinois, outlining what had happened and making sure they knew it was deliberate and not an oversight. We had a letter back within a couple of weeks apologizing, insisting that was NOT company policy and assuring us that the store manager would be brought in for re-training for their staff. Don't know if it happened because we never went back, but no way was I going to let that slide. That is flat out stealing in my book!

What? I have never heard of this before except as a charitable donation. I have shopped a store where they will ask you if you want to round up to the next dollar. They have printed materials explaining that the extra pennies go to some charity that helps people in third world countries get clean water. I think that is a great idea, but for the store to refuse to give people change just so they can keep the money for themselves or even for their employees, that is plain wrong.

Sparty, "tradition" has changed. A lot. When my mom was college-age, one day on a summer job would pay for a college credit. Today that same college credit is 200+ hours at that summer job. Everything goes up except wages, while the "better-paying jobs" we're all admonished to get vanish. Little wonder tip jars proliferate.

When I read the sign "We do not make change" it means to me that they will not give me two $5 and 10 singles for a $20 or 4 quarters for a $1. This stops the quick change artists to try to rip off cashiers. It doesn't mean they will not give me any change for a cash transaction.

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> maboug Wrote:
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> > I do not feel that anyone that makes minimum
> wage
> > should not ask for tips. They are not making
> > $2.18 like waiters and waitresses and have to
> make
> > up for what is not!


So next time I take a $17 car shop, I'm going to bring a tip jar with me so the salesman knows I'm not even making minimum wage.

Hoju Wrote:
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> > maboug Wrote:
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> > > I do not feel that anyone that makes minimum
> > wage
> > > should not ask for tips. They are not making
> > > $2.18 like waiters and waitresses and have to
> > make
> > > up for what is not!
>
>
> So next time I take a $17 car shop, I'm going to
> bring a tip jar with me so the salesman knows I'm
> not even making minimum wage.

This is just exactly what I was thinking. Unfortunatley we cannot reveal ourselves as mystery shoppers. Perhaps we can start by carrying around a tip jar for those "reveal" jobs where we give out a gift card or cash...

I used to do an ugodly amout of the PaPa John's shops...Delivery and carry out. Howerver, when this started to happen and I paid with the exact change....I was delcared a "Shopper" and can not do them again for 18 months. I just will not do them ever again. Plenty more shops out there.

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> BellaFenice Wrote:
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> > Wasn't that movie Office Space based around the
> > main characters skimming a penny off each
> > customer?
>
>
> Office Space is a great movie. If anyone here has
> not
> seen it, you should watch it immediately.
>
> As far as the penny...it was suppose to be
> fractions
> of a cent off each transaction......


Yeah, I've seen it done on Superman III.

I have never understood the tip jar at the register. I am paying a tip for someone taking my order? Shouldn't I at least get my food and see if it is correct first? And if it takes good? Do I have to tip the cook too? I can't believe they can keep your change in any country. I understand rounding up to a nickel. I have never heard of such a thing!!!

Canadian pharmacies are almost as bad. They are going to accept cash, checks or money orders only NO credit cards.

bigfoot dave

Sad commentary on the times that what was once, "legal tender for all debts, public and private" is not worth the paper it's printed on anymore.

It seems like we are going back to a cash economy based on bigfootdave's post. For a while a few years ago it seemed like cash was no longer wanted most places. My thoughts on the Canadian pharmacy post...if I went across the border like so many Americans seem to be doing now and bought hundreds of dollars of pharmaceuticals, I could come back and register a complaint with my credit card company and say pretty much anything while they investigated and did not pay the bill for me. Perhaps I could tell them the drugs I purchased turned out to be fakes or something. Then, from what I understand but am not sure of, it is difficult to go after someone in a different country. So they may be getting stiffed a lot with credit card orders. Or they just do not want to pay the extra fee to the credit card company.

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> Well, maboug, next time you come into my store, I
> won't check out your items, take your payment,
> assist you in finding items, clean the bathroom so
> you're not sitting in other people's piss, lift
> your heavy items, bag your stuff, offer to get
> stuff out of the back room, or make sure the place
> is tidy so you don't trip over things.

Ummmm. Aren't those all things you get paid to do? I'm not commenting on how much you get paid. That's between you and the company you work for. As a consumer it is not up to me to give you extra money to make up for how the company you work for pays you.

Yuck - Papa John's - worst pizza ever made. Never again will I do one of their shops, turning over pizza slices and standing over the pizza while it is on the ground. Horrible shop and of course my piks were not of good enough quality so I did not even get paid.

I throw all of my change into an empty, plastic laundry container. One year an emergency arose and I needed money to leave the state, I had over $400 stashed. Last Christmas, I decided to give the money away at our house party. I made it into a game, the closest guess wins the pot.

Yep, you best not try to keep that penny

Bgriffin, the part I took umbrage at was the implication that I do not provide a service. I do provide a service--many services, in fact--and as you say, that is what I am paid to do. But what I am paid to do is stuff that people don't want to do for themselves when they go shopping, like cleaning the toilets or putting toys back where they belong. That makes what I do a commodity, and therefore a service.

I have a whole different argument about pay structure in the United States and why it's incredibly broken, but my comment was directed specifically at the bit where the person I was replying to implied that I do not provide a service simply because I do not serve food.

I don't think the point was that you don't provide a service, I think the point was you are not paid on a tipped employee pay scale, and therefor you are not a person that should be tipped.

I could have read it wrong though.

Maybe we all read it wrong. I think over-sensitivity sometimes causes difficulties. There are many people who are employed by businesses who are paid to perform services for customers of the establishments that employ them. Not all employees who work in service-related positions receive tips in addition to the wages paid by their employers.

Ultimately we all provide a service to someone somewhere in our jobs so with one of the definitions above everyone should get tipped or no one. I for one cannot understand the position that someone will not do whatever their job is at all or well if someone does not tip them. I was under the impression that people get paid to do their job the way their company/boss would like them to do it, not for the tips. The pay structure on many of these traditionally tipped jobs has changed dramatically and varies quite a bit from one location to another. I have spoken to people who get paid quite well in the same job someone else gets paid very little for elsewhere. And some "tip" jobs are ones where the person is earning $40-50 an hour. That person is certainly not getting tipped because the regular pay is not enough to support themselves on without a tip.
I hear stories of restaurant servers who spit on food because of bad tipping or no tipping. To me this is just wrong and I certainly would not tip someone to keep my food clean. Not spitting on food is not what I would consider great service worth 20%. I would avoid that restaurant like the plague if I found out it was happening even if I liked the food. What if I, in my regular job as a data analyst, reported all the wrong information to the state because my boss did not give me a christmas gift?

BTW...I just noticed today that there is another MSC that has added Papa Johns. So now I have seen four. I guess they haven't figured out that we are all the same people yet.

This time it has a $5 fee and a $30 reimbursement. I'm not sure if the ordering requirements are more so that's why they are giving $30 as no way would one pizza cost $30.



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I posted in a thread sometime back about being at a hedgehog store when the carhop kept the .53. At first, I was just a little miffed but it wasn't much. She knew how to quickly disappear. It happened two other times and the amount was so small. One summer, when I had my windows down, the man in the car next to mine said she just walked off with the change from a $100 bill. It amazes me that some people don't know how to complain, while others complain long and loud about relatively nothing. I told the man I would tell the management, which is what I did. The carhop was not there the next time I visited. There was a thread about tipping at that restaurant. Since then, I have learned that many customers there tip. There is a tendency among the general populace not to like carrying change, anyway.

Some people can be retrained. Most places do that. Usually, when I tell a manager about a situation, I say that the employee needs to be retrained. In cases like we are all describing, if management has never endorsed or of even if it has, it is still stealing, stealing, stealing.

All of my change goes into my daughter's bank, so you better believe I'm asking for my change if I don't get it; even when it's only a penny.

Hoju Wrote:
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> BellaFenice Wrote:
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> > Wasn't that movie Office Space based around the
> > main characters skimming a penny off each
> > customer?
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> You're thinking of Superman II.

You are both right (kinda). It was Richard Pryor in Superman III who skimmed the fraction of a cent from each paycheck in 1983. Michael Bolton, the character in Office Space (one of my faves) that skimmed the fraction of a cent from bank transactions in 1999. Ref IMDB.

> It was Richard Pryor in Superman III who skimmed the fraction of a cent from each paycheck in 1983.

Yay! He's the one I was thinking of. Scene where the bank president is staring out the window, and wondering who's the one who's skimming what the bank usually skims, and sees Pryor drive up in a red Ferrari. (Is saying 'red Ferrari' redundent?)