Spelling

Here is something that may help mystery shoppers who can't spell.

I have considered the issue of spelling for several years. We homeschooled our children. We tried a teaching computer program for spelling without success. I picked words from their textbooks and words for things they use in everyday life. That helped. I took them to a continuing education class. I don't know how much it helped them. Basically, they learned from experience and spell checking. (Continuing education classes are offered by school districts and by colleges and are not a part of their regular program. I do not know how effective their spelling helps are.)

My sisters and I were always good spellers. We can drive down the highway and one of us will comment on a misspelling on a sign. Another one will comment that the typeface for the advertising is wrong. It drives our husbands batty. Unfortunately, we are now all in different states.

One of our sons has always had problems in spelling. When he was about 8, I took the children to the Holocaust Museum. I hesitated because of the content, but they followed me around to every placard as I read it to them. When we got home, this son, who at one time wanted to be a comic book artist, drew a picture of the POW pajamas he saw in the museum. . . . every stripe, the blood stain in the right place, the missing button, and then he wrote the word "Jew" in six languages around the drawing. I thought, "If he can spell words in six languages that he saw for the first time, he is using his visual knowledge." I know for a fact that my knowledge of spelling is visual.

I read a lot. I have done this all my life. I think I probably pronounce the words in my head because I can't read a word unless I know how it is spelled and I can't learn a word from another language unless I know how it is spelled, no matter whether it is pronounced the way it is spelled. My spelling in school was always 97 to 98% accurate. I know many more words now, and I would estimate that my spelling accuracy is stilll 97 to 98%.

My point in all this wordiness is that bad spellers need practice. You are not going to get practice just by using spell checker. There are too many words that look like other words. You need practice. Writing your reports is practice. I would suggest these things:

(1) Get a child's writing notebook that has a list of often-misspelled words. Practice them.

(2) Read the newspaper. If you can't read it every day, at least read it often. Circle the words you don't know. Look them up and write them in a notebook with the dictionary. This is time consuming so you might want to buy one newspaper a week. You will be reading all sections of the paper. Read business, real estate, automotive, news, etc. You will find that some of those words show up in mystery shopping. (I know a man who decided after high school that he didn't learn enough, so he bought an algebra book and a grammar book and taught himself on his dining room table for six months until he felt he was knowledgeable enough to present himself to the work world.)

(3) Look at the structure of words. I have no idea whether phonics helps. I didn't have phonics and I am a good speller. Phonics is popular now and hardly anyone can spell.

When I was a substitute teacher, I was correcting the spelling from signs on the classroom wall apparently made by the teacher. To avoid embarrassment to her, I hid the fact that I did it. I would sometimes grade papers. When the students realized I was correcting spelling and grammar, they would become very upset. When I passed out papers, I noticed that the teachers often overlooked spelling and grammar mistakes in their grading. I owned a secretarial service. I typed many, many documents. The primary reason that people came to me other than lack of time to do it themselves or lack of computer skills was probably lack of spelling skills. I found that the local school wanted me to correct the spelling and grammar of the term papers I typed for students. The parents insisted upon it. Later, when I went to training for grading standardized tests, I found that the essays were not graded on spelling and grammar. They were graded on content (what the student "knows"winking smiley. Folks, all of this is shameful in our society. I won't go into detail about how bad spelling affects understanding. It's too complicated.

(4) Practice. Reading is good practice for spelling. You, and only you, can make a difference. If you didn't have good teachers, or if you didn't pay attention in school, or if spelling just didn't click for you at a younger age, you need to do something now. You have to learn to spell. Whatever it takes, do it. You can't learn it by not practicing.

(5) Other help. Check out self-help books from the library or find websites covering spelling improvement.

Sandra Sue

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I know that spelling is important as well as punctuation,Please stop have a fit it was a mistake i will not get you all up in armed with my misspelling of words sorry ok thanks for all the help about my and everyone elses spelling problems.
I don't think anyone is having a fit about the spelling issues on this forum. We are here to help. As for me personally, it is hard sometimes to reach out to shoppers who are struggling when their posts are hard to read. Good spelling, grammar and punctuation are not just important, they are essential in this business. Even one misspelled word, inappropriate use of grammar or misuse of punctuation on an application can cause a company to reject you as a potential shopper. The same on a report can cause you to be removed from a company's shopper data base. Please don't be offended if that is the first way we choose to reach out and help.

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There are spellers and there are non-spellers. There are math people and there are people with math blocks.

I think that the reason people don't get upset about the spelling post is because they have problems spelling. Either they don't think it is important or they don't want to be reminded. Those of us who do spell well know of many examples where incorrect spelling changed the whole meaning of the sentence.

For some reason, not being able to spell bothers people. I don't get upset if someone corrects my science or wonders why I don't get a math concept, but, boy, if I mention spelling, there is an issue. If either of my two sisters or I comment on a misspelled word on a street sign, for example, our non-spelling husbands get upset.

I think that most people do not spell well. I owned a secretarial service. Many, many clients brought their work to me for finishing because they would then know that the spelling and grammar were correct. It didn't matter what walk of life they were in. What is surprising is that, when I retyped handwritten documents that were decades old (because the handwriting was hard to read or the customer wanted it in the computer that way), I found that people who died before I was born weren't often good spellers, either.

I can't comment on whether more people today can't spell. But having substituted, I found that some teachers don't grade for spelling. When students learned that I was grading for spelling and grammar, they became very upset. Essays in standardized tests today aren't graded for spelling. Since we have to find things in the computer searches by correct spelling, I don't understand that. I think the schools are so overwhelmed by other things that perhaps they are letting spelling go by the wayside.

It is understandable if someone without much education can't spell. It is sad when that person is a high school graduate.

Ok, some of you who are tired of the subject may not have read this far. That's all I have to say right now, anyway.
Spelling errors drive me batty, I can't help it, I have always been able to spell. If you want to know how to spell it, just ask me. I would have to say that our schools are turning out graduates that haven't a clue on how to spell. When I was in school (a number of years ago!), we were taught strictly by phonics. I am still a beliver in phonics. My daughter's school taught some mishmash that involved spelling words the way they sounded with phonics thrown in for good measure. The popular method of spelling words the way they sound is a ridiculous concept because it gets kids into some really bad habits, and then they have to learn to actually spell. When you are looking at the way 14 year old incoming freshmen spell and you are getting things like "reely bad habets", well, learning to spell by the way the word sounds is one. I have seen some amazing posts, on occasion, by mystery shoppers and wonder how they ever get paid. If I misspell even one word, I generally hear about it. The computer age is generally a boon to mankind, but it certainly teaches a lot of computer speak that has no place in reality spelling. A spell check is no substitute for learning to spell the old fashioned way.
If you’re putting in reports through a computer then it should be easy to use a word processor for spelling but it won’t necessarily catch them all. Take - there, their, they’re – all sound the same, but different spellings and meanings.

English spelling is different to American spelling as is word usage. I was educated in English and now live in the US but some words still look wrong to me when spelt the American way – and it annoys me when people don’t realise that there are different colours and flavours.

But we’re human and mistakes happen sometimes, I believe we all try and submit the best reports we can and some editors are stricter (or better able to spell) than others.

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Oh, Sandra Sue. You may have no more to say now,but may I add a little?

I learned to read by phonics in the first grade way before "phonics" was invented. It is, indeed, a sad day when students are encouraged to ignore proper spelling and punctuation. I can't quite figure out how a teacher can figure out what the student knows, when the words they write don't make sense.

I have noticed that many postings complaining about not getting shopping jobs contain atrocious (had to look that one up.) spelling and grammar. Coincidence?
I have had a lot of problems with spelling over the years. Not my spelling, other people's. I am obsessive/compulsive about spelling and grammar and have been known to see a misspelled sign in a store and actually create a new sign for them and mail it to them anonymously. I am on medication now that stops those particular urges...lol. My full time job is in the prison system and when I first started (ahem, 28 years ago) I would get love notes from inmates. I would correct them for spelling and punctuation and give them back to the inmates. I never got 2 love notes from the same inmates again.

I agree that you have to do more than just spell check. I can't count the number of official documents I have seen typed by others that uses the word there when they mean their. I have even seen people with higher education than myself use the word "no" when they mean "know". The computer age unfortunately has not helped matters with the short hand that instant messaging has brought about. Typos are one thing, it is easy to leave out a letter or trun them around (I did that one on purpose - turn). Not meaning to set anyone out personally, I don't even remember the poster, but elsewhere on the forum I read a message where someone typed "you have to be ambushes to get the jobs". The word is ambitious and spelling it sort of like it sounds will not get you far in this job.
Someone I know with obsessive-compulsive disorder was advised by a relative not to take the pill because "it might change your personality".

I suppose all of us have advantages in life, and some of us are spellers.
Sandra Sue, I don't know what pill that person is talking about. I do take a medication for obsession/comulsion but I haven't noticed any major changes in my personality other than I do not get quite as crazy as without the medicine. Like I said, I would actually send signs anonymously to stores that I have seen mispelled words in. I don't do that anymore. I do still drive my co-workers nuts though when I point out their spelling errors.

Since this thread is on spelling, I would like to point out 2 more common errors I have seen people make. Several times on this forum alone I have seen someone use the word "quite" when they mean "quit". I have not seen it here yet, but in my real life I also see a lot of people use the word "loose" when they mean "lose". Loose meaning "not-tight" and lose meaning "unable to find".

These kinds of errors do stand out in your reports.

Janet

"What doesn't kill you makes you stronger,
What does kill you is no longer a problem...
Because you're dead."
Janet,

Glad your medicine helps.

I do not like to see "ect." when someone means "etc." for et cetera ("and others" in Latin). The word also exists in Spanish as one word with an accent mark and probably in most related languages. I am not aware of any language that abbreviates it "ect."
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