BP Helios

Has anyone done these, and how do they compare to other gas station shops like exxon or conoco? I'm going on a trip, and don't want to read 63 pages of instructions if the shop is a huge pain in the.

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The MSC has simplified the instructions. I have not done any for the last three quarters. I put it up there in terms of the most work to be done with Shell and Exxon audits. An image of every pump was required.

Do not read so much, look about you and think of what you see there.
Richard Feynman-- letter to Ashok Arora, 4 January 1967, published in Perfectly Reasonable Deviations from the Beaten Track (2005) p. 230
Simplified instructions only means more chance of rejection because the shopper is presumed to know all of the extra requirements that have now been left out. At least that's how MSC has done with other brands.

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/11/2024 10:50PM by sestrahelena.
As they have always been, they are very, very strict about their photos. If the photo of the pump shows an infraction (missing POP, missing credit cards, etc), there must be a separate photo of each infraction. Meaning, of course, each photo must only be used once. Therefore, if a pump has several infractions, there must be a distinct photo, not used previously.
Be prepared for the editor(s) to question something and requiring another photo.
Best advice - take 2 or 3 photos of each pump and any other required photo.

IMO, the photo requirement is silly and redundant.

IOW, a PITA!
I don't think that those of us who read the 63 pages and passed the certification need to explain how to do a job to a person who won't.
I might also add that as the initial description advises:
" This shop may take up 10 days to be accepted (payment 7 days longer than normal)."

Yep!
@French Farmer wrote:

As they have always been, they are very, very strict about their photos. If the photo of the pump shows an infraction (missing POP, missing credit cards, etc), there must be a separate photo of each infraction. Meaning, of course, each photo must only be used once. Therefore, if a pump has several infractions, there must be a distinct photo, not used previously.
Be prepared for the editor(s) to question something and requiring another photo.
Best advice - take 2 or 3 photos of each pump and any other required photo.

IMO, the photo requirement is silly and redundant.

IOW, a PITA!

The MSC has a photo id system like the former MSC. It detects if a photo has been used before and rejects the report.

Do not read so much, look about you and think of what you see there.
Richard Feynman-- letter to Ashok Arora, 4 January 1967, published in Perfectly Reasonable Deviations from the Beaten Track (2005) p. 230
@whosear wrote:

@French Farmer wrote:

As they have always been, they are very, very strict about their photos. If the photo of the pump shows an infraction (missing POP, missing credit cards, etc), there must be a separate photo of each infraction. Meaning, of course, each photo must only be used once. Therefore, if a pump has several infractions, there must be a distinct photo, not used previously.
Be prepared for the editor(s) to question something and requiring another photo.
Best advice - take 2 or 3 photos of each pump and any other required photo.

IMO, the photo requirement is silly and redundant.

IOW, a PITA!

The MSC has a photo id system like the former MSC. It detects if a photo has been used before and rejects the report.

I wonder how that is determined.
For instance, some of my reports have been submitted with the warning that I have used the same photo for 2 different answers.
The first time I received the warning I went through the photos and did not find that to be so. I knew that to be so as I do as I advised - take multiple phots of the same item.
Hence, I submitted the reports without changing anything (the warning popping up again, btw).
They were accepted.
I'm guessing a Bot looks at the photos and not the metadata and issues the warning while the editor, sees the warning and reviews the photo's metadata and subsequently, sees know misuse.
What a PITA!

Edited to add: IMO, (and this applies to all shops) - if an editor finds an error in the report and sends it back for revision, they should base that error on a specific part of the published guidelines and cite it specifically and not base it on their opinion or interpretation.
Too often in BP editing, there is that and due to the distinct photo requirement, it can lead to all sorts of issues.
Although I often do not challenge an editor request, I'll do so when I find the editor using opinion rather than clearly printed requirements.

Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 06/15/2024 04:09PM by French Farmer.
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