@gigishopper wrote:
I drive a 2006 Toyota Matrix and I feel confident that it may outlast any Tesla. I would love to test drive a Tesla truck. In my area, the Tesla trucks are few and far between and when one passes by everyone just watches and startes as if aliens may come out it. I would for sure do the shop if it paid more, just for the experience of driving one. Outside of political opinions, the Tesla trucks are just plain ugly to me.
@maverick1 wrote:
...and here is the shocker for Gigi...did you know?
Joint Venture:
Toyota and GM collaborated on the Matrix and Vibe, with the goal of sharing development costs and resources.
Also for the "Honda faithful"...GM engineered ignition systems for Honda. As well as EV production for Honda.
GM and Hyundai have been exploring potential collaborations, particularly in the area of electric vehicle (EV) development, with the aim of reducing costs and scaling up production.
GM has also had partnerships with Subaru (Fuji Heavy Industries) and has a long history of international joint ventures, including with SAIC Motor in China.
Ford and GM co-developed the 10-speed automatic transmission, with GM designing the 9-speed and Ford designing the 10-speed. They then manufactured their own versions of these transmissions in their own factories.
GM developed transmissions for BMW, Isuzu, Opel, Jaguar and Rolls-Royce.
@gigishopper wrote:
I drive a 2006 Toyota Matrix and I feel confident that it may outlast any Tesla. I would love to test drive a Tesla truck. In my area, the Tesla trucks are few and far between and when one passes by everyone just watches and startes as if aliens may come out it. I would for sure do the shop if it paid more, just for the experience of driving one. Outside of political opinions, the Tesla trucks are just plain ugly to me.
@gigishopper wrote:
Yes, Maverick1, I do know that Toyota and GM collaborated on the Matrix and Vibe, but they are not the same car. Im not sure what you are trying to prove. Did you know that Mazda and Ford collaborated on the B2500 and Ranger? I have owned two Ford Rangers and one B2500. Can you guess which one lasted longer?
@maverick1 wrote:
...and here is the shocker for Gigi...did you know?
Joint Venture:
Toyota and GM collaborated on the Matrix and Vibe, with the goal of sharing development costs and resources.
Also for the "Honda faithful"...GM engineered ignition systems for Honda. As well as EV production for Honda.
GM and Hyundai have been exploring potential collaborations, particularly in the area of electric vehicle (EV) development, with the aim of reducing costs and scaling up production.
GM has also had partnerships with Subaru (Fuji Heavy Industries) and has a long history of international joint ventures, including with SAIC Motor in China.
Ford and GM co-developed the 10-speed automatic transmission, with GM designing the 9-speed and Ford designing the 10-speed. They then manufactured their own versions of these transmissions in their own factories.
GM developed transmissions for BMW, Isuzu, Opel, Jaguar and Rolls-Royce.
@gigishopper wrote:
I drive a 2006 Toyota Matrix and I feel confident that it may outlast any Tesla. I would love to test drive a Tesla truck. In my area, the Tesla trucks are few and far between and when one passes by everyone just watches and startes as if aliens may come out it. I would for sure do the shop if it paid more, just for the experience of driving one. Outside of political opinions, the Tesla trucks are just plain ugly to me.
@maverick1 wrote:
Yikes Gigi...take a chill pill...
Just stating that there are a lot of co-development and commingling of engineering at the OEMs and supplier part houses. Yet people get wrapped around the axle thinking that one brand is so much better than another.
On another subject, most people probably don't know that food at their favorite restaurant likely comes from the same source that other restaurants use; Sysco and US Foods. Think of these suppliers as the Amazon for restaurants. Just food for thought.![]()
So Maverick, are your thoughts yours alone or did you purchase them from Sysco? Sorry could not resist.
I am not someone who knows much about cars but I have a Hybrid, mainly because the full EV's were very new and very few when I bought my car but also the EV's at the time only got 35 to 50 miles per charge. But I like having the gas back up in case I go on a long trip or get stuck in too much LA Traffic. I read a story a few years ago about Harris Ranch which is a big restaurant complex featuring their own meats and such that are sold in grocers. Its about half way from LA to SFran in a rural farming area. The story talked about the total change in the customer base since Teslas etc arrived on the scene. Their customers went from mainly farming folk and some tourists to mainly EV drivers eating and drinking while their car drank electricity outside. Boots and jeans to slacks and button down shirts toting a laptop. I had a diesel car back in the day and I am done with having to plan my trip around stations that can serve me hoping they are open.
Now I plan my road trips around Costco gas and Costco food courts!!!
@paniconmon wrote:
1forum1, you don't want to go full EV. Are you considering a hybrid plug-in?
I considered the EV tax credit ending. I prefer a used car, but I don't meet the credit income limitation for used cars.
@maverick1 wrote:
Yikes Gigi...take a chill pill...
Just stating that there are a lot of co-development and commingling of engineering at the OEMs and supplier part houses. Yet people get wrapped around the axle thinking that one brand is so much better than another.
On another subject, most people probably don't know that food at their favorite restaurant likely comes from the same source that other restaurants use; Sysco and US Foods. Think of these suppliers as the Amazon for restaurants. Just food for thought.![]()
@gigishopper wrote:
Yes, Maverick1, I do know that Toyota and GM collaborated on the Matrix and Vibe, but they are not the same car. Im not sure what you are trying to prove. Did you know that Mazda and Ford collaborated on the B2500 and Ranger? I have owned two Ford Rangers and one B2500. Can you guess which one lasted longer?
@maverick1 wrote:
...and here is the shocker for Gigi...did you know?
Joint Venture:
Toyota and GM collaborated on the Matrix and Vibe, with the goal of sharing development costs and resources.
Also for the "Honda faithful"...GM engineered ignition systems for Honda. As well as EV production for Honda.
GM and Hyundai have been exploring potential collaborations, particularly in the area of electric vehicle (EV) development, with the aim of reducing costs and scaling up production.
GM has also had partnerships with Subaru (Fuji Heavy Industries) and has a long history of international joint ventures, including with SAIC Motor in China.
Ford and GM co-developed the 10-speed automatic transmission, with GM designing the 9-speed and Ford designing the 10-speed. They then manufactured their own versions of these transmissions in their own factories.
GM developed transmissions for BMW, Isuzu, Opel, Jaguar and Rolls-Royce.
@gigishopper wrote:
I drive a 2006 Toyota Matrix and I feel confident that it may outlast any Tesla. I would love to test drive a Tesla truck. In my area, the Tesla trucks are few and far between and when one passes by everyone just watches and startes as if aliens may come out it. I would for sure do the shop if it paid more, just for the experience of driving one. Outside of political opinions, the Tesla trucks are just plain ugly to me.
@maverick1 wrote:
Oh, goodie...I LOVE car talk! I've done a test drive yrs ago for quick smaller fees with a copy of a business card.
GM owner here. I understand them. I take care of them myself. Our truck has almost 350K miles now.
Let's separate the talkers from the doers...
Who else here has 350K miles or more on their vehicle and performs almost all the repairs themselves? (I did have to have a welder patch the frame due to rust)
Who else here owns a bi-directional scanner and knows how to use it.?
Regarding EV's; Since it's so much more expensive to use public chargers, it makes me wonder what the profit margin is for public charging companies.
(bottom line...It's all about engineering design and build quality.)
@Rho wrote:
Who else here has 350K miles or more on their vehicle and performs almost all the repairs themselves?
Raising my hand pfffffft 1998 green Toyota
@Niner wrote:
@maverick1 wrote:
Oh, goodie...I LOVE car talk! I've done a test drive yrs ago for quick smaller fees with a copy of a business card.
GM owner here. I understand them. I take care of them myself. Our truck has almost 350K miles now.
Let's separate the talkers from the doers...
Who else here has 350K miles or more on their vehicle and performs almost all the repairs themselves? (I did have to have a welder patch the frame due to rust)
Who else here owns a bi-directional scanner and knows how to use it.?
Regarding EV's; Since it's so much more expensive to use public chargers, it makes me wonder what the profit margin is for public charging companies.
(bottom line...It's all about engineering design and build quality.)
526k and 375k on two of our cars