Ageism

Probably because the place where I live is a retirement destination, I never experienced any ageism at work until about 5 years ago. I’d taken a part-time job with a Federal agency that keeps track of retail prices. My city was part of the Los Angeles district as it’s right on the border, so I spent two weeks out of the month there and two weeks at home, due to their perpetual short-staff issue.
I’ve never met such a group of unhappy people. Everybody I met pretended they didn’t really need a job, they were just doing it for something to do until their ship came in, or something. The job itself was not bad – you had a route of businesses where you checked the prices on a list of specific items. It was decent money plus mileage and benefits.
From the very first they made it clear I was an oddity. Not only was I unapologetic about my choice of residence, as Arizona was practically a third-world country to them, they couldn’t get their heads around the idea that anybody would admit to being 55. To also want to work in public on top of all that, replete with wrinkles and grey hair, was something almost impossible for those Angelenos to comprehend. ;>winking smiley
The only people they hated more than “old people” were mystery shoppers. Never did figure out why. The only correlation between the two jobs is that they take place in retail establishments. Go figure…
But because they were so anti-mystery shopper, I figured MS’s must be a decent bunch of hardworking, down-to-earth individuals, and I find I wasn’t wrong!

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I am sooo upset w/ the depiction of older people in TV commercials. We are either decrepit people needing nursing home care or cool oldsters that are vibrant and riding motorcycles and needing viagra. One of the most annoying to me is the Medicare sales pitch where the Phone number is born 2bwild and the guy comes in to demand his grandaughters guitar saying - Give it to me- like some total Ahole and plays this fake rock tune to show her how to do it.

Interested in comments and you're least favorite examples.
We should be writing the copy and these advertisers would have a better chance at reaching this demographic.
Cyn, annoyed.
I have never worried what people thought of me. I am a grade A pain in the A__, but thats the way I am. I'm 66 and I don't worry about who thinks that to old. When I retired 3 years ago I had worked as a Corrections Oficer for 19 years and some of the inmates in their 520's looked older than me. I just look at my age a a number and nothing more I do as I want my wife of 39 years has tried to change me, but I resist change. I like the way I am and don';t want to be changed at all.
Ageism is retarded. What are people thinking? That they are immune to the effects of time?
Just today in Starbucks, I'm doing my scheduling and three woman in their 50's are talking about one's Mother who is still working at age 70, for the school system....one lady says, "I'd think they would have made her retire by now".
Well, I got offended and said, excuse me, but haven't you heard of age discrimanation, it is no longer, I am 74 (I looked younger than her), and learned the computer at 68 and started my own business. She stammered and said, "I meant I thought the school system would have to ask her to retire".
What a blazing idiot....ageism is alive and well, but only to the unintelligent.

edited to add...the new 70 is 50, etc., and I am a living example to that. I remember my Mother in her late 50's, grey hair, always wearing her apron and looking and acting older....things have changed, let's all get with the program. The world would be a beter place if we had open minds and open hearts.

Live consciously....


Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/16/2011 04:35PM by Irene_L.A..
sad... gone is the day when people can afford such things...

shopping north west PA and south west ny
cooldude581 Wrote:
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> sad... gone is the day when people can afford such
> things...


Not sure what you meanby this dude. Please clarify.

cyn
cynb Wrote:
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> cooldude581 Wrote:
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> > sad... gone is the day when people can afford
> such
> > things...
>
>
> Not sure what you meanby this dude. Please
> clarify.
>
> cyn

I took it to mean people need to open their minds to new ideas and live in the real world instead of living in the past with the narrow thoughts that were once commonplace .... like prejudices dealing race, gender, age, religion, etc...... Whether we like to admit it or not, mandatory retirement was once common - and we thought ready for the old folks home at 60 .....I'm getting there and I'm sure not ready!
cooldude581 Wrote:
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> sad... gone is the day when people can afford such
> things...


Agreed. My mom is a Senior Executive at a Fortune 500 company. She's 67 and will retire next year, 3 months after her 68th birthday. Even if you met me (I'm 46), it would be hard to place her age-our genes are that good. My grandmother passed away this summer at age 97.

When Mom does retire, I fully expect to hear the shock waves rolling from 150 miles to the East. I truly believe they have no idea how old she is or that she plans on retiring. She's just simply ready to do so. (and pretty sure she'll be joining our ranks when she does, can't picture the Human Dynamo sitting still :p)

She didn't start down that career path until she was past 40 and had two kids to support on her own.

Age is just a number. If the company she's worked for for the last 17 years had looked at her birthdate and not her abilities, they'd have really missed the boat. She's brought them a ton of money over time.
Easier said than done....

cooldude581 Wrote:
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> afford to retire at 70 or later...

Live consciously....
i plan on keeping this job until i am dead... i dont know about the rest of you... but i dont plan on quitting... its to fun... pay is good as you want it to be... and so is the work... pick and choose...

heck i mean where else can you work off a little of that vacation money with a few shops here and there... or pay for gas as you travel... or tell the boss to shove it until something turns up that you think is worth your time...

shopping north west PA and south west ny
Cool...that's my point, everyone should be allowed to work until it's their choice not too....msing is perfect for seniors, as long as we can drive and type, we have jobs, it's no one's business when we retire. My uncle retired from his business (owned gourmet grocery store) and went back at 82 to be a greeter until he died at 101.
He was written about in the San Francisco Chronicle, he was also the only living survivor of the 1906 earthquake....they had him in all the parades, he was a hero of sorts, and lived a full life. My goal is NOT to be a burden
to my daughter, get my own life and that in itself is a legacy to leave your children.

Live consciously....
most parents dont want to...

my dad always says to me...
"Tom dont put me in a nursing home..."
"Dad you make $100k plus a year and your wife (stepmom) makes more than you do (Pediatrician)... Trust me its not going to be me putting you in a nursing home. I wont be able to afford it."

i worry though about my mom and eldest brother... my mom makes poor choices after poor choices... pertaining to work and housing... and same with my brother but he has cerebal palsy...they live together...

i am pretty sure my mom has something..shes paranoid-thinks shes on the governments black list because her feminist ideas and artwork... which according to her is worth in the hundreds of thousands of dollars even though it is now being kept in a storage shed... and has incredible mood swings...

im sure whatever she has i have a bit of... i have some pretty crazy ideas,for a time was suicidal, and spent some time in a lockdown hospital because of seeing things that were not there... -im on meds and therapy...

this is part of the reason i am buying a house so if necessary they can live with me... but i have already decided that neither of them are moving in unless one is on SSD... im not going to put myself in a hole because of their pride... neither my mom nor my bro think they need it even though they have a hell of a time finding work and are in student loan dept up to their eyeballs...

shopping north west PA and south west ny
It's really too bad the elder care industry doesn't do more to improve their image. I have occasion to see a lot of the local facilities, large and small, during the course of my regular "day job." Most of them I wouldn't mind living in myself, right now! (I'm only 60.)

There really isn't any such thing as a "nursing home," anymore, the way people used to think of them. There are 24/7 medical facilities for extended care, for those who need actual hospital-like care, all the way down to retirement apartment complexes that provide only meals and activities for those who just need a little company from time to time.

Facilities and approaches to various elder care issues are improving all the time, too.

I've already told my kids that if I become unable to care for myself to find a nice board & care and park me there. It doesn't worry me in the least. I'd rather they not have to have the burden of caring for me, because home care can get to be very difficult.
I am 71 and attend an exercise class for Seniors and there are some very active folks who go there every week. Most of us don't look or act our age and are in better shape than people 20 years younger. I don't know about other people but I plan to live my life to the fullest every day. Age is an individual thing.....I choose not to age!
Go girl, I'm right there with you...

bmac Wrote:
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> I am 71 and attend an exercise class for Seniors
> and there are some very active folks who go there
> every week. Most of us don't look or act our age
> and are in better shape than people 20 years
> younger. I don't know about other people but I
> plan to live my life to the fullest every day. Age
> is an individual thing.....I choose not to age!

Live consciously....
cooldude581 Wrote:
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> most parents dont want to...
>
> my dad always says to me...
> "Tom dont put me in a nursing home..."
> "Dad you make $100k plus a year and your wife
> (stepmom) makes more than you do (Pediatrician)...
> Trust me its not going to be me putting you in a
> nursing home. I wont be able to afford it."
>
> i worry though about my mom and eldest brother...
> my mom makes poor choices after poor choices...
> pertaining to work and housing... and same with
> my brother but he has cerebal palsy...they live
> together...
>
> i am pretty sure my mom has something..shes
> paranoid-thinks shes on the governments black list
> because her feminist ideas and artwork... which
> according to her is worth in the hundreds of
> thousands of dollars even though it is now being
> kept in a storage shed... and has incredible mood
> swings...
>
> im sure whatever she has i have a bit of... i have
> some pretty crazy ideas,for a time was suicidal,
> and spent some time in a lockdown hospital because
> of seeing things that were not there... -im on
> meds and therapy...
>
> this is part of the reason i am buying a house so
> if necessary they can live with me... but i have
> already decided that neither of them are moving in
> unless one is on SSD... im not going to put myself
> in a hole because of their pride... neither my mom
> nor my bro think they need it even though they
> have a hell of a time finding work and are in
> student loan dept up to their eyeballs...


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Cyn b
bellamorgan Wrote:
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> Say no to Ageism, as they say "Age is just a
> number".


The new saying is 70 is the new 60 and 60 the new 50 and so on....
I'll buy that...smiling smiley

Live consciously....
Hey they changed that Medicare commercial that I was refering to. Now the grandaughter says, sorry granpa for being loud and he says, no problem, let me show you some chords. Maybe they heard me, or us.
Well, here we go again.....you need to be 35 or under to do a mobil phone shop.
I just bought a smart phone and hell, I'm a bit over 35. What are these clients thinking, no one uses a phone over 35....I'm a bit bedazzeled!!

Live consciously....
Yes Irene, that is ridiculous on so many levels. Probably the person who made that decision for the client is 27 and knows nothing about demographics or marketing.
I agree. As many of the clients get younger and younger, the more closed-minded of them want their own peer group as the shopper group, believing that they represent the customer base they are trying to attract. Sad. Fortunately they are not all closed-minded.
AustinMom Wrote:
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> I agree. As many of the clients get younger and
> younger, the more closed-minded of them want their
> own peer group as the shopper group, believing
> that they represent the customer base they are
> trying to attract. Sad. Fortunately they are not
> all closed-minded.


Thanks, I think that will backfire in terms of market research. Hello
Baby Boomers buying technology that is user friendly. I do not have to be a technophobe to get this.
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