What does the future hold for the Mystery Shopping business?

With a new administration cycle late this year in the US, what do you believe the future holds for the Mystery Shopping business?

I believe that there is empirical evidence that shows inflation, excess and/or improper regulation, and the massive government spending not only impacts the fiscal markets but it impacts the general economy. The economy has been supported by consumers who have been about 70% of total expenditures. When government spending sharply increases, it competes with consumers and the increased in demand sends prices higher.

What does this do to Mystery Shopping businesses? Well, if consumers are finding it difficult to spend, for whatever reason, the need to get feedback from consumers is lowered. Do we need better business regulation? Should employees be evaluated solely on performance and not an affinity connection? Do we need existing laws enforced or relaxed? What would strengthen the Mystery Shopping business?

Okay, I'll leave it there to start.

Join in with your thoughts and experiences. Keep it civil. I don't engage in censoring. But I like humor.

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/28/2024 01:56PM by maverick1.

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*reaches for crystal ball* aaahhh.... I see... Me! Years ago, I was one of the souls who went to stores, bearing printed pages and writing instrument, and checked snig prices (handheld that mimicked register prices) versus posted or advertised prices... I always wondered why this hurt my back and later got the stenosis diagnosis... Meanwhile, other souls already were using their phones to check prices...


... And it seems certain that price checks in some format will always be needed because this accuracy is mandated somewhere in the codified law. This is part of the larger gig economy in which some mystery shoppers also complete other types of gigs.

Nature does not hurry, yet everything is accomplished. - Lao-Tzu
Yeah, I should have added, "my crystal ball remains cloudy." But one of my traits is planning. I will often spend a great deal of time planning out a detailed strategy. Can't do that without having some type of educated future guessing.

Maybe AI fills in some of the mystery shopping gaps for businesses?
like the retail sector has significantly shrunk. it will continue to shrink with the shift away from brick and mortar stores

shopping north west PA and south west ny
Is there any sort of price checking gig for online selling/buying activities?

Nature does not hurry, yet everything is accomplished. - Lao-Tzu
observa has a lot of phone shops for rentals in their web/phone shop tab $3-$5 a piece

shopping north west PA and south west ny
i agree with maverick1, but I believe there is another factor. One company holds 80% of the shops and they are not shopper friendly.
Some places use the info for coaching. Although people mat be spending less, to some extent people will still spend. Perhaps as also mentioned at conferences until companies pay more, or pay something shoppers will continue to disappear. If gas is $5 plus a gallon, or you take a bus will you do something strictly for "reimbursement"? Isn't your time worth more $?
I think with cell phones having AI, shops are going to change. Wondering what they will add, for information, to the shops? Will they ask you, "Where else is this item sold at and for how much?" "What does the AI tell you about this store or item?"
I thought such things will happens a year prior pandemic. shops still in flat curve..

Shopping Eastern Pennsylvania since 2009


Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/16/2024 10:48PM by gene.
Oh...and what about that minimum wage of $20/hr in Cali...is it a help or hindrance to the mystery shopping business?
@maverick1 wrote:

Oh...and what about that minimum wage of $20/hr in Cali...is it a help or hindrance to the mystery shopping business?

It's a hindrance for sure. Two different burger shops I do in Cali are on hold right now because of the minimum wage increase.
@maverick1 wrote:

Oh...and what about that minimum wage of $20/hr in Cali...is it a help or hindrance to the mystery shopping business?

I've noticed fees tend to be higher in areas with higher median wages, so I would say it is a help, assuming by mystery shopping business you mean the mystery shoppers.
Mystery shoppers may come under the protection of "gig worker" laws in some areas, meaning MSPs can't use the excuse of us being contractors to avoid paying at least minimum wage rates ($20 per hour in big cities) that are based on an honest assessment of how long the completed task will take. If a shop takes 15 minutes, but entering the data and responding to editors takes 1 hour, that would be the end of reimbursement-only shops, the end of reimbursement that's less than what's charged for required purchases, and the end of $7 and $10 shops.
I believe in responsible spending, both personally and certainly for the government. Spending isn't the issue; it's how, what, and when. Let's ignore the COVID anomaly. The previous administration, which I supported, increased spending before the pandemic. However, inflation didn't take hold because key economic sectors saw a supply boost. Take energy, a crucial driver. Increased domestic oil production significantly lowered fuel prices pre-pandemic. Importantly, this was achieved domestically, with the "Drill, baby, drill!" approach. Supply rose, and fuel prices fell – even with rising demand due to more people having more money in their pockets thanks to tax cuts (another positive). More vacations were taken, stimulating local economies. Restaurants boomed. Services were in high demand, potentially increasing the need for mystery shopping – all good things.

COVID hit, fundamentally changing the economy. Its impact, I fear, will linger beyond the next administration. Trillions were spent in a short period. We all loved getting "free" money, but it wasn't free. Eventually, egg prices were bound to rise. You can't keep printing money, devaluing the dollar, without real prices increasing, even in areas with lower demand.

The past few years have been unnecessarily painful because of continued excessive spending, with both Republicans and Democrats to blame. Both sides love spending our money, often on wasteful projects buried as pork in massive bills. This is why I strongly support individual spending bills. It makes it harder to sneak in a $5 million line item for a giant public fish tank where citizens can exercise their pet fish.

Recent spending sprees have impacted many things. Has the mystery shopping industry been affected? I recently re-entered the field after 18 months, and I've seen a decrease in pay for the regular jobs I do (or did), specifically gas audits. Did prices fall because stations suddenly had no money for mystery shopping? Maybe, maybe not. It's hard to say definitively with other factors at play.

Regarding gas audits, I know station owners pay for mystery shopping – it's part of their agreement. They also pay for violations. So, energy companies might actually profit from mystery shopping. I don't recall the exact amount, but an owner told me he paid either $60 or $80 per month for mystery shopping. Violations definitely incur fines. An employee without a name badge could cost them around $70. Some owners deducted that amount from the offending employee's paycheck. My point is, if owners pay for this as part of an agreement, economic changes wouldn't directly impact it.

What about other industries? Most restaurants are franchised. While it's been a while since I looked at a franchise agreement, I wouldn't be surprised if franchisees pay to be mystery shopped. Many retail stores, like Mattress Firm, are also franchised. It wouldn't surprise me if part of the agreement requires the franchisee to pay for mystery shopping.

Despite my concerns, I don't believe the demand for mystery shopping will disappear in the next 2-3 years. However, what we earn on the back end might be a different story. Our income is more affected by the number of mystery shopping companies (MSCs) and the jobs they offer. There are definitely fewer MSCs than when I started. Fewer MSCs mean less competition, which could raise prices for clients, potentially pushing some out of the market – leading to fewer jobs for us shoppers.

To maximize profits, MSCs do two things: lower (or maintain) fees for existing jobs and try to increase their shopper pool. There's nothing wrong with either approach. Any good business wants to make money. However, I see signs that the large MSC, at least its mystery shopping division, is struggling. (Keep in mind, they do more than mystery shopping.) I believe the division grew too quickly, and even with COVID causing fewer jobs, they reportedly continued acquiring other MSCs. As COVID restrictions eased and shops reopened, their administrative costs skyrocketed. This might explain the decline in scheduler use and the shift of gas audits to Presto. They have access to a potential larger shopper pool.

In my experience as a retail seller online, the overall trend I'm seeing is that people are still buying. My 2024 Q1 gross sales were only down 1.2% from 2023 Q4. That is remarkable to me because I had to close for two weeks in January after a tree fell onto my garage where I house my inventory. After I reopened, it took another week to get my listings back in the system again for me to generate sales. Had I been open and made sales over those three weeks, I would have easily had Q1 sales greater than Q4. I was extremely pleased and why I finally decided to shift away from mystery shopping and focus more on selling online. People are buying. Importantly, people are buying things related to non-essentials, like hobbies. The economy is not stable and people don't feel it, but it isn't stopping them from spending. I think this is largely due to two reasons: First, people see the government spending and borrowing money, so they naturally do it too. The average amount of credit card debit a person carries is crazy, especially at today's interest rates. The second reason people keep spending is because of the tax cuts, which will expire in the next administration. The current administration has already said they will not renew them. To be sure, there is no guarantee that even if the previous administration returns, the tax cuts will remain. We'll likely have a split congress, and that will mean in order to keep the tax cuts, there will be a lot more spending. What will be the lifesaver is the drilling of oil. But, if there is not a new administration, then the final axe in our economy is going to strike. It's going to be ugly. It's going to be painful. And we're going to see brick-and-morter restaurants and retail close. Online shops, overall, will remain flat or see decreases, but they will whether the storm. For mystery shoppers, there will be fewer jobs and most certainly bonuses will be rarer than a pink elephant.

I didn't even get into my thoughts on AI and its impacts, plus the impacts of people not wanting to work traditional jobs and the pool of "willing" workers being a poor quality.

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@ServiceAward wrote:

I believe in responsible spending, both personally and certainly for the government. Spending isn't the issue; it's how, what, and when. Let's ignore the COVID anomaly. The previous administration, which I supported, increased spending before the pandemic. However, inflation didn't take hold because key economic sectors saw a supply boost. Take energy, a crucial driver. Increased domestic oil production significantly lowered fuel prices pre-pandemic. Importantly, this was achieved domestically, with the "Drill, baby, drill!" approach. Supply rose, and fuel prices fell – even with rising demand due to more people having more money in their pockets thanks to tax cuts (another positive). More vacations were taken, stimulating local economies. Restaurants boomed. Services were in high demand, potentially increasing the need for mystery shopping – all good things.

COVID hit, fundamentally changing the economy. Its impact, I fear, will linger beyond the next administration. Trillions were spent in a short period. We all loved getting "free" money, but it wasn't free. Eventually, egg prices were bound to rise. You can't keep printing money, devaluing the dollar, without real prices increasing, even in areas with lower demand.

The past few years have been unnecessarily painful because of continued excessive spending, with both Republicans and Democrats to blame. Both sides love spending our money, often on wasteful projects buried as pork in massive bills. This is why I strongly support individual spending bills. It makes it harder to sneak in a $5 million line item for a giant public fish tank where citizens can exercise their pet fish.

Recent spending sprees have impacted many things. Has the mystery shopping industry been affected? I recently re-entered the field after 18 months, and I've seen a decrease in pay for the regular jobs I do (or did), specifically gas audits. Did prices fall because stations suddenly had no money for mystery shopping? Maybe, maybe not. It's hard to say definitively with other factors at play.

Regarding gas audits, I know station owners pay for mystery shopping – it's part of their agreement. They also pay for violations. So, energy companies might actually profit from mystery shopping. I don't recall the exact amount, but an owner told me he paid either $60 or $80 per month for mystery shopping. Violations definitely incur fines. An employee without a name badge could cost them around $70. Some owners deducted that amount from the offending employee's paycheck. My point is, if owners pay for this as part of an agreement, economic changes wouldn't directly impact it.

What about other industries? Most restaurants are franchised. While it's been a while since I looked at a franchise agreement, I wouldn't be surprised if franchisees pay to be mystery shopped. Many retail stores, like Mattress Firm, are also franchised. It wouldn't surprise me if part of the agreement requires the franchisee to pay for mystery shopping.

Despite my concerns, I don't believe the demand for mystery shopping will disappear in the next 2-3 years. However, what we earn on the back end might be a different story. Our income is more affected by the number of mystery shopping companies (MSCs) and the jobs they offer. There are definitely fewer MSCs than when I started. Fewer MSCs mean less competition, which could raise prices for clients, potentially pushing some out of the market – leading to fewer jobs for us shoppers.

To maximize profits, MSCs do two things: lower (or maintain) fees for existing jobs and try to increase their shopper pool. There's nothing wrong with either approach. Any good business wants to make money. However, I see signs that the large MSC, at least its mystery shopping division, is struggling. (Keep in mind, they do more than mystery shopping.) I believe the division grew too quickly, and even with COVID causing fewer jobs, they reportedly continued acquiring other MSCs. As COVID restrictions eased and shops reopened, their administrative costs skyrocketed. This might explain the decline in scheduler use and the shift of gas audits to Presto. They have access to a potential larger shopper pool.

In my experience as a retail seller online, the overall trend I'm seeing is that people are still buying. My 2024 Q1 gross sales were only down 1.2% from 2023 Q4. That is remarkable to me because I had to close for two weeks in January after a tree fell onto my garage where I house my inventory. After I reopened, it took another week to get my listings back in the system again for me to generate sales. Had I been open and made sales over those three weeks, I would have easily had Q1 sales greater than Q4. I was extremely pleased and why I finally decided to shift away from mystery shopping and focus more on selling online. People are buying. Importantly, people are buying things related to non-essentials, like hobbies. The economy is not stable and people don't feel it, but it isn't stopping them from spending. I think this is largely due to two reasons: First, people see the government spending and borrowing money, so they naturally do it too. The average amount of credit card debit a person carries is crazy, especially at today's interest rates. The second reason people keep spending is because of the tax cuts, which will expire in the next administration. The current administration has already said they will not renew them. To be sure, there is no guarantee that even if the previous administration returns, the tax cuts will remain. We'll likely have a split congress, and that will mean in order to keep the tax cuts, there will be a lot more spending. What will be the lifesaver is the drilling of oil. But, if there is not a new administration, then the final axe in our economy is going to strike. It's going to be ugly. It's going to be painful. And we're going to see brick-and-morter restaurants and retail close. Online shops, overall, will remain flat or see decreases, but they will whether the storm. For mystery shoppers, there will be fewer jobs and most certainly bonuses will be rarer than a pink elephant.

I didn't even get into my thoughts on AI and its impacts, plus the impacts of people not wanting to work traditional jobs and the pool of "willing" workers being a poor quality.

Wow! Service Award...(pregnant pause)...I didn't know you were so analytical. Like myself. It's as if I wrote most of your viewpoint. Anyway, may I make a few comments?

Do you believe ALL people are buying? Or is it just the older, more affluent segment of the population. From reviewing data, it seems to me that the lower household incomes are pulling back on spending even though they got the largest raises. Inflation hurts the lower household incomes the most. Or, in alignment with your comments, increased government spending in turn increases prices in the marketplace, which ultimately hurts lower household incomes.

What about lifestyle creep? I include all of the following into lifestyle creep; increased square footage of homes, increased feature content in automobiles, increased tech devices by individuals, increased food consumption outside of the home, parents pushing ALL their kids to get a college education, etc. The increased amount of the population chasing after all these products and services raises demand and thereby increases cost.

Your thoughts?
starbucks, mcdonalds, and burger king have all posted losses... so has yum brands (outside of taco bell)

everything is down because people are paying through the nose for gas, auto insurance, and rent. its coming to a head now because pandemic benefits are gone. supply chains are out of wack because of yemen and the baltimore bridge collapse

shopping north west PA and south west ny
@cooldude581 wrote:

starbucks, mcdonalds, and burger king have all posted losses... so has yum brands (outside of taco bell)

everything is down because people are paying through the nose for gas, auto insurance, and rent. its coming to a head now because pandemic benefits are gone. supply chains are out of wack because of yemen and the baltimore bridge collapse

I tried to find you answers but it seems all those companies you list have seen profits go up in the US compared to the previous year, as far as my limited research shows. Maybe you are looking at worldwide profits. The US is doing much better than other countries when it comes to infaltion and such, not that it isn't still a problem here, but that might explain losses elsewhere..
@maverick1 wrote:

Oh...and what about that minimum wage of $20/hr in Cali...is it a help or hindrance to the mystery shopping business?

I live in a high minimum wage city, and I rarely mystery shop anymore. The fees are just too darned low, and there is other gig work that pays better.

I'm a little surprised that businesses still want Mystery Shoppers. Most are either unable or unwilling to hire adequate help and don't seem to care at all about customer service, so I don't know what they do with these evaluations.
When ipsos keeps getting major contracts and even buys smaller MSCs then expect the pay to keep getting lower... Damn French!
@MW wrote:

@maverick1 wrote:

Oh...and what about that minimum wage of $20/hr in Cali...is it a help or hindrance to the mystery shopping business?

I live in a high minimum wage city, and I rarely mystery shop anymore. The fees are just too darned low, and there is other gig work that pays better.

I'm a little surprised that businesses still want Mystery Shoppers. Most are either unable or unwilling to hire adequate help and don't seem to care at all about customer service, so I don't know what they do with these evaluations.

I saw this in another post online and I thought of your reply...

"...Meanwhile, inflation is continuing to be a big problem – and government intervention in the free market is only making things worse. Take California’s newly-mandated $20 minimum wage for fast food employees. Not surprisingly, both chains and customers are complaining that burritos and burgers are getting more expensive – while some chains decided it was easier to permanently close. Imagine that. Clearly, the Golden State needs to raise the minimum wage to $30 to keep up with the inflation caused by the $20 minimum wage. Then again, why stop at $30?"
@cjbstar wrote:

i agree with maverick1, but I believe there is another factor. One company holds 80% of the shops and they are not shopper friendly.

Not sure if this was answered later in the thread, but who's that company?
i am still wondering whether there are hidden tiers of shopper pay... Does an attorney or a physician qualify for one fee system while people like me are relegated to a lesser package of fees and reimbursements? I am thinking of things beyond the obvious difference of affording swankier places and waiting for higher reimbursement amounts for costlier experiences. If so, are the rich going to perpetuate their own experiences while the rest of us watch as common gigs pay less and less or disappear altogether?

Nature does not hurry, yet everything is accomplished. - Lao-Tzu
starbucks stock is down 30% in the past 6 months. the rest of the companies are expanding discounts becasue they are concerned about the near term future

shopping north west PA and south west ny
@Shop-et-al wrote:

i am still wondering whether there are hidden tiers of shopper pay... Does an attorney or a physician qualify for one fee system while people like me are relegated to a lesser package of fees and reimbursements? I am thinking of things beyond the obvious difference of affording swankier places and waiting for higher reimbursement amounts for costlier experiences. If so, are the rich going to perpetuate their own experiences while the rest of us watch as common gigs pay less and less or disappear altogether?

Tbh, I can't imagine that a rich person would bother with mystery shops, even high-end ones. Why stay at a luxury hotel and write a lengthy report when you can afford to just stay at a luxury hotel and enjoy yourself?

Plus, a "rich" shopper's evaluation isn't worth any more than a poor shopper's evaluation, so I doubt companies would pay a premium.
@cooldude581 wrote:

starbucks stock is down 30% in the past 6 months. the rest of the companies are expanding discounts becasue they are concerned about the near term future

Starbucks net income for the quarter ending March 31, 2024 was $0.772B, a 14.96% decline year-over-year.
Starbucks net income for the twelve months ending March 31, 2024 was $4.158B, a 16.97% increase year-over-year.

So Starbucks saw sales decline the first quarter of this year, but they still made $773 million in three months. The original assertation was that Starbucks posted losses. It has not.
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