Here we go again..I did two upscale clothing shops for them in Dec., and got 10 on both. I do this type of shop for various MSC's with no problem.
Beyond Hello (client) now says you have to be no older than 45 to do these shops. I'm p_____ beyond hello, almost to the point of goodbye. Have I changed in the last 2 months, why can't I now do these. I know the answer as it has happened before with Urban Outfitters, but these shops require a more mature shopper, they are not trendy but very sophisticated, so does mean that over 45 is old....
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Irene, I've seen the same shop, and I'm also beyond the age requirement. When I see these things, I often think they're silly, especially when I can guess the client and it's a place I shop! However, as computer_man says, it is NOT Beyond Hello's fault. I believe that those stipulations are decided by the client.
Still it's not fair, and I did say (client) in my above post, slowly pushing us "mature" woman out...I can't believe this client doesn't want a 46yr. old to shop there. This paticular shop pays well, and doesn't require a P/R...gonna have to lie about my age...lol.
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Im only 42, but keep getting "jeans" emails from another MSC that are addressed personally and she begs me to help. First, I would never pay $75 to $200 for a pair of jeans. second, since you have to be size "0 to 12"....ummmm, I'm out. Good grief- who's a size zero???
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Nicely, first I am not sure of the client as it is not shown, and there could be several that fit......second, being that this is my and the MSC's problem, I wanted to mention the MSC. This MSC got this shop and and also have a great coffee shop I do. I do not do their glasses ever, so,not being able to take this one leaves nothing left. I can't mention the client as I am not sure, sorry, but, good suggestion, and it is not a P/R..no purchase required, so you might be thinking of wrong shop..
Irene, I'm pretty positive I know which shop you mean. Beyond Hello does not have many listing age requirements, and you were very specific about the cutoff. The shop that Jaosmom referred to is a different shop.
The point is, as others also inferred, these stipulations are not imposed by the company. I've had positive experiences with Beyond Hello, and while there may be legitimate problems that others have experienced, I don't like to see shoppers deterred from shopping for a company for something that is NOT their fault. You may not realize it, but you post a lot about being mad at companies and threaten to resign. The truth is, I'm sure they won't miss you. Don't take it personally, they wouldn't miss me or anybody else, either. They have a very large pool of good shoppers.
It's not "age discrimination", Irene. They are merely trying to pinpoint their demographic. There are certainly cases where the law plays into age discrimination, as well as gender, but not here. And for the record, I think in many cases it's dumb! But it's just not against the law.
I'm not angry, just stating my opinion, fine to disagree, if your no longer allowed to shop because of age, what else is the reason. you can say demographic, but I don't buy it. I shopped there 2 months ago, and my friends shop there on there own, they know their demografic is not under 45. They could be trying to get a younger demographic, but there clothes are not youth oriented. Would you say (example) Chanel or Fendi are a younger clothing store such as Wet Seal or Urban Outfitters, I think not. I understand their wanting under a certain age limit, but not these shops.
Jasomom, I know the store your talking about, (they just opened one in my town), and your lucky to get a pair of jeans for under $200.00, plus their size 10 is like a 6, everything runs so small, very European. I'm a size 8 and can't get into those jeans. Nine West cuts for curvier woman, wish they did those shops, have to buy them on my own.
> Good counceling might help you guys become more
> tuned to society. It really wouldn't hurt and
> might take some of the anger out. Peace!
Your post makes absolutely no sense.
Irene is upset because of being screened out of shops on the basis of age. I think this is understandable, but disagree that the practice is discriminatory.
I did the jeans shop once, I certainly can't fit into their sizes either, but they were so desperate that they allowed my 19 year old daughter to try on the jeans and gave a huge bonus. This particular shop is located in a downtown complex that has high parking fees (I think an hour is $5)and the amount they offer is ridiculous. That being said, however, the scheduler did have to ask for special permission and receive a waive that allowed my daughter to try on the jeans instead of me, and I had to write the report as if I were her. She wouldn't want anything to do with jeans that expensive either, and the return is kind of embarrassing. I have a sunglass pair to return (designer ones) and I always dread the return, hoping that the original salesperson is not on the shift when I come back.
I haven't done the sunglass shops for a while, but when you can get a few in a nearby mall, they're a good thing. Return within the timeframe and report it. Or, outside the timeframe and don't. I always had reasons for returning, 'I met my husband in the food court and he had a fit about the price', or 'I wore them outside and they were too light/dark. Don't have time for an exchange right now'. Really never had a salesperson look at me suspiciously; but if so, I would have made good eye contact, looking back un-suspiciously. ;-)
The age requirement thing can be irksome or make you wonder. Jeans, jewelry, restaurants, shoes/handbags. Demographics can be off. A chain of regionally owned and shopped restaurants comes to mind. The age requirement is 21-31. (No alcohol required, it's not a compliance shop.) It's $20/$200, which can be a bit high for many twenty somethings. I like the food, atmosphere and entertainment. My daughter, who meets the age criteria, dislikes it. She went willingly with me only the first time. Perhaps, the shop enlightens the client that the location is not appealing to its target.
> I haven't done the sunglass shops for a while, but
> when you can get a few in a nearby mall, they're a
> good thing. Return within the timeframe and
> report it. Or, outside the timeframe and don't.
> I always had reasons for returning, 'I met my
> husband in the food court and he had a fit about
> the price', or 'I wore them outside and they were
> too light/dark. Don't have time for an exchange
> right now'. Really never had a salesperson look
> at me suspiciously; but if so, I would have made
> good eye contact, looking back un-suspiciously.
> The age requirement thing can be irksome or make
> you wonder. Jeans, jewelry, restaurants,
> shoes/handbags. Demographics can be off. A chain
> of regionally owned and shopped restaurants comes
> to mind. The age requirement is 21-31. (No alcohol
> required, it's not a compliance shop.) It's
> $20/$200, which can be a bit high for many twenty
> somethings. I like the food, atmosphere and
> entertainment. My daughter, who meets the age
> criteria, dislikes it. She went willingly with me
> only the first time. Perhaps, the shop enlightens
> the client that the location is not appealing to
> its target.
I agree hr abouthe age thing, I don't think it is discrimation either. There are some tobacco shops out there (that no one ever seemws to take) that requie forgot the the start age, but 29 years old for the end age. What? People over 29 don't smoke?
People over 29 do not need to be carded and the tobacco shops are about compliance with client (and legal) carding requirements. Same holds true with a bunch of restaurants where at least one guest must be below a certain age to make sure they get carded.
Note on the sunglass shops. I haven't done them because it says you have to use a credit card in order to get a refund right away. Doesn't make sense to me, if you give cash or debit card you don't get immediate refund?
Well, someone took the shop FINALLY. I suspect there may be a newbie shopper in my area.