Spa shop - let's translate what this really means
What services are you required to get and how much are they each or total?
A spa treatment.
You have to book before they give you the price, but it's usually around $175 +/- so once any fees or taxes are added, it could end up costing you to have this done.
You have to book before they give you the price, but it's usually around $175 +/- so once any fees or taxes are added, it could end up costing you to have this done.
The last time I did this shop, I was paid $75 and received full reimbursement, so this is just another decline and a steep one. I was just noting the word salad. You only have to play that game when you know it's not an attractive offer.
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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/20/2025 05:13PM by BarefootBliss.
I translate as the reimbursement for service excludes any tip but you are expected to tip anyway. They are trying to justify that by saying you are getting shop pay that should exceed the tip amount.
@BarefootBliss wrote:
The last time I did this shop, I was paid $75 and received full reimbursement, so this is just another decline and a steep one. I was just noting the word salad. You only have to play that game when you know it's not an attractive offer.
But does it matter what treatment? I mean is it a massage? facial? can you pick?
They specify the treatment. How do you see that as related to their fee statement?
It isn't but it makes a big difference in perceived value. If this is a desirable service you might otherwise pay for out of pocket, you'll see it as a $200+ value and great pay for the trouble of a report rather than an insulting $8.75 for your time and effort getting a mediocre service.@BarefootBliss wrote:
They specify the treatment. How do you see that as related to their fee statement?
I predict someone will be excited to get this opportunity.
yes, perhaps someone who has never been to the spa chain in question. They are in for a surprise lol.
The MSC has probably indicated to the client that this offer will bring them in no problem.
My experience has shown they have a hard time getting them filled.....as evidenced by past pleas from schedulers.
Of course, that's why I wonder how they plan to bring them in now. We shall see.
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The MSC has probably indicated to the client that this offer will bring them in no problem.
My experience has shown they have a hard time getting them filled.....as evidenced by past pleas from schedulers.
Of course, that's why I wonder how they plan to bring them in now. We shall see.
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Can I ask the MSC since you haven't mentioned the client?
I saw this "offer" also. A low even for them. In the past there has been total reimbursement for service and tip, as well as an often-generous fee.
@BarefootBliss wrote:
They specify the treatment. How do you see that as related to their fee statement?
It's related b/c if you can just go grab a $100 facial then it's a deal to me; that's why I asked. Didn't think it was an odd ? but I guess you did
I did this shop twice for Coyle and got full reimbursement for both the treatment and tip, plus was paid $50 the first time and $100 the second time. Coyle couldn't fill these shops, and I would guess they are happy to be rid of the contract. Good luck to BestMark!! For those asking, the service is an introductory facial that they use as a stepping stone to their more expensive services and products. I personally wouldn't pay a dime for it; $175 plus tip is ludicrous, in my opinion.
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I didn't think it was an odd question, please no assumptions.
I simply was asking if you were seeing something I wasn't.
I simply was asking if you were seeing something I wasn't.
I had the same experience as Bradcrew when they were with Coyle. I was actually disappointed with the facial. Granted these were the only facials I've ever had, but they weren't what I expected.
I did it 3 times. Once at $50 shop pay and twice at $100 with full reimbursement for service and tip.
I did it 3 times. Once at $50 shop pay and twice at $100 with full reimbursement for service and tip.
<<< The word facial ... so hard to resist commenting further on wrosie's comments ... but I must resist. I want to be a mature person>>>
This is EXACTLY the reason I did not want to specify the type of spa treatment. We know you're easily triggered, my post a couple days ago about hard to fill shops got way sidetracked. Was hoping to leave the off topic topics where they belong.
This is EXACTLY the reason I did not want to specify the type of spa treatment. We know you're easily triggered, my post a couple days ago about hard to fill shops got way sidetracked. Was hoping to leave the off topic topics where they belong.
in a nutshell, yes. I am just amused by their turn of phrase.
Might slip past a new shopper who doesn't have any history, however - may be what they want.
Might slip past a new shopper who doesn't have any history, however - may be what they want.
@paniconmon wrote:
The word facial ... so hard to resist commenting further on wrosie's comments ... but I must resist. I want to be a mature person
Maturity is overrated.
I don't think there are any Russians / And there ain't no Yanks
Just corporate criminals\ / Playin' with tanks
Just corporate criminals\ / Playin' with tanks
Good call barefoot, and thanks for the head’s up.
I’m not pleased about the turn of events lowballing talented ICs, but these are marketing companies, so it’s their job to turn a phrase in order to sell whatever they’re willing to trade thier souls for.
They’re just marketing. No different than the 16 ounce bags of coffee that are now 11-12 ounces with a rapidly rising price tag.
Good reminder to be a savvy shopper with our gigs, read between the lines, share the wisdom, and diversify.
The buyouts are creating cut throat monopolies reducing rates and taking longer to pay. Not good for IC’s. These entities will use up the newbies till they’re bankrupt and homeless without a car because they didn’t make enough maintain it running around doing any assignment that’s offered hoping for “loyalty†bonuses hoping, paying to work while the CEOs are laughing and vying another sports car we’ve paid for.
Meanwhile, I live in a previously thriving demographic in which talent is being laid off in favor of AI and people are cutting back on expenses, not buying new cars, houses, or even going out to lunch and getting spa treatments because the outlook is so uncertain.
The drop in sales isnt all due to poor service on the ground, it’s the result of decisions being made at the top and having lived through previous trickle downs that left our parents in dire straits.
The irony that companies who are supposed to be evaluating customer service for others treat the people they depend on to provide them with valuable data so poorly would be humorous if it weren’t so obvious that this trend is not sustainable.
It’s reality check time. Profit at any cost is not sustainable no matter how it’s packaged and knowing that ethic we need to expect a lot of glitz on the outside of a box of hot air. It’s the way the laws have been written.
I feel bad for those in the field becoming scapegoats. That includes those we are evaluating, ourselves, and schedulers who’ve worked with us for years who have to pitch this snake oil, many of whom are also IC’s. One even apologized off the record saying they’re very worried about their jobs.
The marketing to us is only going to get more interesting, and we need to make smart business decisions for our own well being.
I won’t pay to work or do any more out of pockets I have to wait weeks to get reimbursed for, or be bullied into working for promises of gift cards, expense write offs by a 3rd party we are not contracted with, or a few pennies 2 months later minus expenses and taxes, and neither would the ones creating these bass ackwards policies.
We can be creative too. It’s time.
I’m not pleased about the turn of events lowballing talented ICs, but these are marketing companies, so it’s their job to turn a phrase in order to sell whatever they’re willing to trade thier souls for.
They’re just marketing. No different than the 16 ounce bags of coffee that are now 11-12 ounces with a rapidly rising price tag.
Good reminder to be a savvy shopper with our gigs, read between the lines, share the wisdom, and diversify.
The buyouts are creating cut throat monopolies reducing rates and taking longer to pay. Not good for IC’s. These entities will use up the newbies till they’re bankrupt and homeless without a car because they didn’t make enough maintain it running around doing any assignment that’s offered hoping for “loyalty†bonuses hoping, paying to work while the CEOs are laughing and vying another sports car we’ve paid for.
Meanwhile, I live in a previously thriving demographic in which talent is being laid off in favor of AI and people are cutting back on expenses, not buying new cars, houses, or even going out to lunch and getting spa treatments because the outlook is so uncertain.
The drop in sales isnt all due to poor service on the ground, it’s the result of decisions being made at the top and having lived through previous trickle downs that left our parents in dire straits.
The irony that companies who are supposed to be evaluating customer service for others treat the people they depend on to provide them with valuable data so poorly would be humorous if it weren’t so obvious that this trend is not sustainable.
It’s reality check time. Profit at any cost is not sustainable no matter how it’s packaged and knowing that ethic we need to expect a lot of glitz on the outside of a box of hot air. It’s the way the laws have been written.
I feel bad for those in the field becoming scapegoats. That includes those we are evaluating, ourselves, and schedulers who’ve worked with us for years who have to pitch this snake oil, many of whom are also IC’s. One even apologized off the record saying they’re very worried about their jobs.
The marketing to us is only going to get more interesting, and we need to make smart business decisions for our own well being.
I won’t pay to work or do any more out of pockets I have to wait weeks to get reimbursed for, or be bullied into working for promises of gift cards, expense write offs by a 3rd party we are not contracted with, or a few pennies 2 months later minus expenses and taxes, and neither would the ones creating these bass ackwards policies.
We can be creative too. It’s time.
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