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Again, ICA Violation. Are you really that hard headed?

Shopping Bama and parts of Georgia.
I'm still learning 24/7.
I can tell you that AMC doesn't do regular mystery shops. They only do age compliance and alcohol compliance. So you have to either do an alcohol scenario at a theater that has a bar, or take a teenager with you.

I have shopped AMC and Regal theaters before. Their MSCs are listed in the Official List of Mystery Shopping Companies that you will find at the bottom of this page. Unfortunately I cannot give you their names.
cake... Wrote:
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> I can tell you that AMC doesn't do regular mystery
> shops. They only do age compliance and alcohol
> compliance. So you have to either do an alcohol
> scenario at a theater that has a bar, or take a
> teenager with you.
>
> I have shopped AMC and Regal theaters before.
> Their MSCs are listed in the Official List of
> Mystery Shopping Companies that you will find at
> the bottom of this page. Unfortunately I cannot
> give you their names

I have done regular shops at AMC before.

Liz
Traveliz Wrote:
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> I have done regular shops at AMC before.
>
> Liz

Really? That's cool, I was told that they only do compliance shops.
Nope! I've done AMC regular shops, too. Liz, maybe it's a statewide thing?
I've also done Regal, Cinemark and a couple of local chains.

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I'm "Sandi" in the Middle!
The AMC regular shops have not been posted in many, many months and the reimbursements were very cheap compared to the other theater chains. Still worth for a free flick and popcorn of course!!!
mrcomputer101 Wrote:
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> Again, ICA Violation. Are you really that hard
> headed?

mystery2u

I believe what mrcomputer101 is trying to say is:

"Our apologies that the earlier replies to your movie theatre post did not spell out what "ICA Violation" means.

ICA is the Independent Contractors Agreement which for every company spells out, among other things, that we are not allowed to divulge who their clients are to others."

It is also against the forum rules for us to tell you which companies shop which clients.

If you use the search function you might find which companies shop theatres in general.

I would also recommend making your way to the "New Mystery Shoppers" area and reading all the "sticky" posts and everything by the user "Flash." She has gone out of her way to write many thorough and highly educational posts for new shoppers.

Read, lurk, search, and soon you will be up to speed and not as likely to incur the wrath of veterans who see these kinds of questions all to often.

Welcome!

AndrewTX
Certifiable
Heheh, that's a great way to respond, Andrew, but I think what mrcomputer said was exactly what he meant. winking smiley Sometimes it gets infinitely frustrating when questions like this are met with your type of answer the first (five or so) time(s) and then the asker (usually new to the forum) asks the same type of question again and again and again.

We have had trolls in the past, too, who seem to do this kind of thing for kicks.

I love your answer and that's usually how I choose to answer those kinds of questions, but after the third or fifth time, I'd really like to clobber someone. winking smiley
Thank you Jen.

Andrew, I speak for my self, period.

The poster has asked this before in another thread.

Shopping Bama and parts of Georgia.
I'm still learning 24/7.
Indeed mrcomputer101,

However, your response of "ICA Violation" in the previous thread may have not made any sense to the newbie.

Just as they need to post intelligently, we need to not put on them the frustration we've built up from previous newbies and trolls. Give them a fair chance. Explain why we won't/can't reply to the age old question, "Which company shops ____." Point them to the newbie forum.

If they persist once we've done that, fire away! I for one will enjoy the show.

AndrewTX
Certifiable
You can also ignore the post or the poster, if you're tired of seeing the same thing over and over. Just click the new link Jacob gave us.

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I pray it does not occur that the last thing I did before I died was vacuum the house or eat broccoli.
Until a couple of days ago, I had never heard of this site. I found it randomly. I've been mystery shopping for years, and do about 80 a month (I have received a "congratulations on 1,000 shops" email from one company). I was really excited to see this site, as I've often wondered if other shoppers have the same frustrations as I often do. I asked what I thought was a simple question, and most of you guys jumped all over me. I DID ask this question before, but no one answered, so I asked it again.

To everyone who has insulted me thus far, so very nice of you! No one has ever called me a troll before. I'm glad your parents taught you to be kind, patient, helpful, friendly people, and I'm sure your actions will be returned to you someday :0)

I've never heard of ICA, and don't understand all the mystery here! If I knew what companies did movie theatre shops, that would ENCOURAGE me to shop for them! Don't they want me to work for them? SO frustrating.

No further insults are necessary from you guys, so please move on and find someone else to chew up.

To the very few helpful replies I've received, thanks :0)

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/03/2013 07:09AM by mystery2u.
That spells it out. If you have been mystery shopping for years , you know it is a violation of your independent contractors agreement to even ask. So, do not act like an injured party and move on...

Shopping Bama and parts of Georgia.
I'm still learning 24/7.
If you read my post, you would see that I said I've never heard of ICA, and I also specifically said

"No further insults are necessary from you guys, so please move on and find someone else to chew up."

I'm surprised you are a mystery shopper. You don't seem to have very good attention to detail!

Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 07/03/2013 07:32AM by mystery2u.
Never heard of an ICA? That proves you are NOT a Mystery Shopper as you state. You are required to agree to an ICA for each company you shop for, before you can accept assignments. How is that for attention to detail?...:p

Shopping Bama and parts of Georgia.
I'm still learning 24/7.
Only when dealing with liars, idiots and trolls. If all else fails, read the forum guidelines before posting...grinning smiley

Shopping Bama and parts of Georgia.
I'm still learning 24/7.
Geez, people! Isn't it possible to state a couple MSCs that have movie theater shops without stating any of the specific client names? I know the OP posted some names, but just make it clear that you are giving a general answer.
Hi River,

The simplest answer to this question is: no. And we've answered the same question probably a thousand times.

Also, it gets really frustrating when people don't like helping themselves. Open up a browser, type in www.google.com and search "mystery shopping" + "movie theaters". Done. winking smiley

I don't mind helping, I've been doing so for a long, long time now, but with this kind of attitude, I'd have no interest in helping this person. I can understand (and have been very compassionate in the past) if a person feels like they're being "chewed up" by a crowd (especially when one snowballs into something very ugly and petty), but that's not what happened here. mrcomputer, a person I consider who has contributed quite a lot to the board in the three years I've been here, thought he'd answered that question for this user before. I trust his memory, and even if he didn't, I trust in the fact that he thought he did. I also know what it takes to search this forum for what I need. If you're not willing to take the initiative (and I'm using the royal "you", here) to help yourself, well... that just really smacks of the same entitlement thing we see all the time, anymore.

There are plenty of reasons to help a user, sure. And, like I said, I think mrcomputer thought he'd already done so. Frustration led to an answer that the user (IMO), took wayyyyy too hard. I haven't seen anything remotely close to chewing up in here and if the user was referring to me when they said they'd never been called a troll before, they also need to have their eyes checked (possibly one of those exam shops?). I said that we've had trolls in the past, not that this user _was_ one. Talk about attention to detail. winking smiley

Edited to say...

I had to take a look at the past question-- not only was it answered, but it was answered by several people who explained (in simple terminology) why it couldn't be met with the answer the OP was looking for. =)

[www.mysteryshopforum.com]

Edited a third time (LOL!)... because you did it here, too! This time asking what companies shopped hotels. Again, people explained why they couldn't answer! The answer right beneath your question patiently explained how to search the forums! How in the world is this a matter of us not answering you and jumping down your throat?!! I think it's a matter of you not reading and when you bother, reading whatever it is you think makes you the victim.

[www.mysteryshopforum.com]

RiverSong Wrote:
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> Geez, people! Isn't it possible to state a couple
> MSCs that have movie theater shops without stating
> any of the specific client names? I know the OP
> posted some names, but just make it clear that you
> are giving a general answer.

Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 07/03/2013 12:31PM by jentodd.
Wait a minute. What's wrong with giving the names of which companies do certain *types* of shops? Like MSC XYZ has pizza shops. MSC ABC has fine dining. MSC QRS has hotels. MSC JKL has movie theaters.

I've seen that done here before, haven't I? Is this not an issue of ICA, so much as being annoyed that someone wants a quick answer ~ or hasn't accepted the general answer and is fishing for specifics (which would be an ICA violation)?

Just asking for some clarification/definition, is all. smiling smiley

Practitioner of the Nerdly Arts.
In all honesty, Storm, I would say it really depends. I have seen MSCs that are openly flagrant about whom they shop, going so far as to list the name of their clients on their website. In those companies, and in full read of their ICAs, I've noticed that a few times they've said something along the lines of "Look, we don't care." However, more often than not, these things are just purely boilerplate. They read vague-enough as to lump type in with specific brand. Then again, when you go to a company's website, they're not shy about giving some idea of the types of shops they do... for example: [www.satisfactionservicesinc.com].

I would say, again, that 'Entertainment Venues' is so vague as to leave the user guessing if that even counts, but there are a few others there that are less vague.

The problem was, at least for me, that the user was asking for specific theatres. That's what I've been referring to. If you were thinking that I was including the request for what companies shop hotels in there, I was only referencing that in yet another way users, here, on the board, had tried to help show the OP how to search (or, at least, that that was an option). =) If it was because I said "The simplest answer to this question is: no," I was just shorthanding the same arguments we've rehashed. I was referencing the OPs original question where they glommed specific companies with type. Again, though, I would preface in saying that I _have_ seen ICAs that are worded as such that they could include type. Sorry, though, I probably should have written as much.
StormCloud Wrote:
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> Wait a minute. What's wrong with giving the names
> of which companies do certain *types* of shops?
> Like MSC XYZ has pizza shops. MSC ABC has fine
> dining. MSC QRS has hotels. MSC JKL has movie
> theaters.
>
> I've seen that done here before, haven't I? Is
> this not an issue of ICA, so much as being annoyed
> that someone wants a quick answer ~ or hasn't
> accepted the general answer and is fishing for
> specifics (which would be an ICA violation)?
>
> Just asking for some clarification/definition, is
> all. smiling smiley


This is absolutely positively fine and appreciated by many. You can have a thread that lists who shops what type of categories and movies can certainly be a category. There are many chains. Hotels, gas stations, grocery stores, clothing stores, etc would all be fine to list as categories and it would in no way violate any agreements.

BTW I am not at all annoyed when someone asks the general question. Just because I have shopped a long time and have been on this board a long time does not mean at one time I was not new and had the same questions...wish they would have had these boards then!

Not all people are annoyed by those that haven't signed up with every single company and read every single thread on the internet about shopping.

Liz
Is it reasonable that a shopper that has performed 1000's of shops has never heard of an Independent Contractors Agreement? I gave a short answer in the previous thread. Others spelled it out in detail.

The poster decided to press the issue in a new thread. The ICA and the forum posting guidelines were not followed.
I hope everyone remembers that we are not the only ones that read this board. MSC's read what is posted and look for such violations...

Shopping Bama and parts of Georgia.
I'm still learning 24/7.
It's very possible that the shopper has read and agreed to hundreds of agreements, but has never heard of it being called "ICA" and thus does not know what "ICA" means.
Its possible. In this case, it was spelled out previously.

Shopping Bama and parts of Georgia.
I'm still learning 24/7.
mrcomputer101 Wrote:
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> Its possible. In this case, it was spelled out
> previously.

Yes, it was spelled out by me. In doing so I referenced your earlier reply in which you called the OP "hard headed." The way I wrote my post was intended to be a light-hearted rebuke to your insulting reply. In retrospect I regret referring to your post at all. You seem to want to defend your remarks to the nth degree, and perhaps I put you on the defensive. I'm sorry. I enjoy your posts and should not presume to try to rebuke you or teach you anything.

That said, I think we would all do well to show a little more patience with new posters. If they make mistakes, we can politely point them in the right direction. I understand that the trolls who have gone before them have tried the patience of many regular posters.

Perhaps the best practice would be to answer objectively, as we would do in a report. Leave the pejorative replies for the goosechickens of the world.

AndrewTX
Certifiable
You need to look back a bit further. It was spelled out in a previous thread. I find no need to defend my remarks. I do explain them to the hard headed...

Shopping Bama and parts of Georgia.
I'm still learning 24/7.
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