Request for Moderator Help

To the OP: I don't know why you've chosen me to address above, but just let me assure you that I am over it. No one questions my integrity and remains on speaking terms with me. You are now and forever toggled.

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I am just not interested in this subject anymore and will not be reading or posting anything more on this subject. My final word to shoptastic: let it go. I'm sure that I'm not the only one who is tired of reading about it.
Moderators: This poster has promised never to post again after at least 6-8 "final posts." She always returns and follows the scenarios that are widely recognized as those of classic TROLLS; poor little me; confused little me; rejected little me. PLEASE wake up and see this poster for what she is. 4+ months of this craziness is more than enough. Jacob, your mods are not taking this seriously!!! It is up to you.

Based in MD, near DC
Shopping from the Carolinas to New York
Have video cam; will travel

Poor customer service? Don't get mad; get video.
@7star wrote:

Another 'Final' Post ?!?!?!

Should we start a pool? What kind of odds do we have?
Someone please shoot me for doing this:

@shoptastic wrote:

I noted to a moderator privately

Interesting. The moderators on this board are not public. There is no "moderator" account to PM. There is Jacob, and there are anonymous moderators. Since anonymous moderation is quite a favorite topic of mine, please, enlighten us. Did you complaint to Jacob, or did you complain to a moderator?

@shoptastic wrote:

I explained privately to a moderator that I've had very negative thoughts this past week and am trying hard to cope.

Your personal life has nothing to do with this forum and others should not be punished because you are having external issues.

@shoptastic wrote:

Of course, once I read part of it and saw insults.

Please point out these insults. There are no insults in that thread. You were never mentioned in that thread. There is no possible way there was any way anyone said anything insulting about you.

@shoptastic wrote:

I'll say one final thing for now, as I need to get going.

There were 483 words (2077 characters not including spaces) typed in THIS SECTION OF THIS POST after this sentence. No, I'm not ashamed to admit that I cut and pasted this into Word to gain this bit of knowledge.

@shoptastic wrote:

I'll simply conclude by saying that I've never had any real ill will toward anyone here, nor have I ever "trolled."

Maybe you haven't, maybe you have. A troll is defined as:

a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting arguments or upsetting people, by posting inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a newsgroup, forum, chat room, or blog) with the deliberate intent of provoking readers into an emotional response or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.

For argument's sake we'll start at the end, disrupting, normal on-topic discussion. You wrote 483 words in ONE SECTION after you stated you had 1 final thing to say. Your posts are incredibly long, they ramble, they restate the same thing over and over and over again. They are highly edited many times long after people have responded. Even if someone wants to just skip your input it takes 7 hours (about as long as some people sit in a Five Guys) just to skip the post. And invariably SOMEBODY will reply and there goes another post and now the discussion is completely gone. Your long post has now successfully disrupted normal discussion. Do you mean to do this? I know many people who think you do. Some think it's because you simply want to disrupt conversation, which is the actual definition of a troll. I think you simply feel like the discussion should revolve around you. It should be all about your "intellectual disagreement" and what you feel should be right and wrong. You post inflammatory statements and then defend yourself by posting the same inflammatory statement over and over. These are classic signs of a troll. Do you know what a normal person would do? They would ask how much we have to eat (and not have a 3 line subject title about it) and when 95 shoppers who have been doing this for years and years state for many shops the MSC simply wants you to have a taste, that would have been the end of it. You turned it into a 3 page thread because you had to be the center of attention. And while we're on the topic. Long subject lines themselves are disrupting. Yet another example of your troll-like behavior. Perhaps, like you say, you're all innocent and not troll-like but you have been asked repeatedly by forum members to shorten your titles and you refuse. How is that not a troll?

Look, I know you think I've been mean to you. I'm really not a mean guy, I'm basically pretty nice. And I really don't dislike you. What bothers me about you is simply that I don't believe you are here to learn. You act like you are. You post question after question after question, but I don't think your intent is to learn how to be a successful mystery shopper. I think your intent is to have "intellectual disagreements" and discussions of theory. You are much like my nephew, who will one day have a PhD in math and spend his entire life not doing math but discussing math theory with other people who have a PhD in math. That's great, go find a forum that does that. This forum is about people learning about how to be successful (or more successful) mystery shoppers. It is about water cooler conversation. No one but you wants it to be a discussion of theory and intellectual disagreements. Your discussion is disruptive to the discussion 99% of us want to have. And that, my friend, is why many people here view you in a negative light. Sure you're insulting to people, and that's what they key in on because that's the easy to pinpoint part, but really it's about disrupting and dominating conversation.

The other reason many people think you are a troll is the level of questions you ask and the level of understanding of basic things. Many years ago when I first started working for IBM, I was asked to assist a technician on an installation to learn how to do it. It was a project where we were upgrading servers and had to backup everything. Halfway through the guy I was "assisting" called the helpdesk because the instructions told him to place a certain tape in the drive but it did not say to remove the tape that was already in it and he was confused. I was absolutely flabbergasted that someone would actually have that question. Many of your questions have people shaking their heads in the same disbelief. You are not a stupid person. You are certainly not as stupid as some of the question you ask. That give the impression that you are trolling.

So please, take a chill pill, calm yourself down a bit, and join the discussion of people trying to learn how to be better shoppers. Shorten up your posts a bit, shorten up your titles, post your silly threads in the general chat that I for one actually found interesting, ask questions but instead of questioning the ethics of every answer just do what I do when people who have been shopping for 20 years give advice, listen.

There are reasons that a body stays in motion
At the moment only demons come to mind
@ChrisCooper wrote:

Two things I've noticed about OP. First, she only responds to those who agitate her. She has yet to acknowledge anyone who provided help, or even stood up for her. She is definitely baiting certain members for an argument.

I'm writing in a bit of shock from so many of the things that have been said, so please pardon me if I'm making any mental errors from memory.

You're right, CC, that I haven't always acknowledged those who've defended me. I'm not sure why I have or haven't, but can say that I've genuinely appreciated it. Some of those who've done so from past threads have been:

JASF (although, I did thank her in the "cheating" thread)
Coffee Queen
spicy1
and also ceasesmith

There may be others that I'm forgetting and I'll take a bit of time here to just say that I appreciate the courage you must have had to speak up and say something when you thought something was wrong. I may not have personally thanked you all, but I know when I read through your comments from past threads that it felt reassuring and helped reduce some of the stress I felt.

Two things to keep in mind:

i.) When you're in pain, you're not always thinking of the good things others have done, but sometimes very focused on the negative. It wasn't on my mind at the time, but you're correct that I should have been vocally thankful to others for their courage.
ii.) I actually stop reading threads or, at least, many posters who've shown verbal abuse/insult towards me, so there are many threads where I've decried the behavior of others only to immediately leave for my own peace of mind. That's what words can do to a person. I haven't returned to many of those threads. So it's possible some people may have stood up against this abuse that I'm not aware of. I shall read over those threads over the next week or two to get a sense of what happened in them.

That's actually an area that I think could be partially my fault. I try to avoid confrontation usually, but in doing so, I may have abandoned a conversation where others had defended me that I'm not aware of and should have given proper thanks to.

@ wrote:

Second, she will undermine herself to further inflame a thread. In the "cheating" thread, her starting premise was that 2 bites was too little and cheated the client. Then halfway through, she slips in that she submitted a report in which she didn't even eat the burger, she gave it to her father and used his comments for her report [www.mysteryshopforum.com]. I'm sure that tidbit was just an effort to keep the diatribe going and rile people up since what she did was completely unacceptable. She did something similar in other threads, but I didn't bother to call her on it at the time.
I was shocked by this, CC. I can tell you from the bottom of my heart that I absolutely did not "undermine" myself to inflame a thread! That was genuinely offensive, b/c I was letting LisaSTL know in that situation that I myself had made some mistakes in the past that were unintentional and was not saying that I was "perfect" or anything like that. I'm very surprised you took it that way. Since you mentioned thinking that I did this another time, I wouldn't mind you letting me know where it was? I'm genuinely shocked by that and that you (or anyone) would have conceived of that. I assure you, again, that no such intentions were had on my part.

@ wrote:

This is the online equivalent of Munchausen syndrome--false claims of illness while performing behavior that induces the symptoms of the illness. If you decide not to toggle her, try agreeing with her all the time. When she cannot provoke a fight, she'll leave.
Chris, this is a thing that I've been beyond curious about and frustrated about.

When people say that I'm trying to provoke a fight, what exact threads/posts/comments are you guys talking about? I've literally thought 100% the opposite, as I've always kept to myself, given kind remarks to people in their own threads, given some suggestions here and there on mystery shopping topics, made some goofy responses, etc. I have literally never attacked another forum member, nor tried to instigate anything. If one looks at my posting history (again, I really do wish people would take up that challenge, b/c I'm totally baffled by this one line that I'm a provoker, as I could point to examples of the opposite, where I've tried to be a peacemaker and tried to affirm both sides of a complicated discussion), I think you'll see the opposite and nothing of the sort.

If you or anyone would like, I could literally post my comments (and links to them here) that show I've been a peacemaker in past threads. The only time where I've gotten upset has been when I've been falsely accused of things and been mocked or otherwise insulted. The primary instances being:

---being accused of writing a book
---being called a troll
---being called a food blogger (I do think MSNinja was partially joking much of the time and I can appreciate his/her humor, but I'd pointed out in the past that it bothered me)
---recent LisaSTL/bgriffin incident*****
----------------------------------
---indirectly put down for my intelligence (implying that I had the intelligence of a 3rd grader)
---"new" forum member accounts that put me down*** (This one, admittedly, I could have been totally paranoid about, as there's no real proof of intent. I just thought it was odd that a brand new member would come out and put me down without contributing anything elsewhere. My thought was an existing forum member created those accounts to mess with me, but I am completely fine if this is seen as just pure speculation and paranoia. I'm only relaying how I felt and not saying I was justified in it.)
---general rudeness
---comments that mischaracterized my views and then admonished me for holding those views (when I didn't)
---the entire 5 Guys thread devoted to mocking me

The line "-------------" separates instances where I verbally "fought back" against things said unfairly of and rudely to me. It's only in the top half that I ever had gotten angry. The instances in the bottom half were things that took place that I never said anything about and tried to ignore (with the 5G incident only mentioned here).

But if you notice, the ONLY instances where I got upset were ALL cases where I was defending myself. I had never provoked anyone, insulted anyone, or tried to cause any drama. I would challenge anyone to look into those threads and find any instance where I was the provocateur. They don't exist.

*****I mentioned to CQ and JASF above (indirectly with allusions) that the LisaSTL/bg incident where I got upset with them was something that I think I overreacted to and was at fault for mostly. I had been meaning to apologize for and reconcile that incident once I was emotionally strong enough.

Other than that single incident, I would (nicely) challenge anyone to find a single instance where I tried to provoke others or was rude and insulting to others. I don't mean this in a prideful way, but more in defense of myself and out of being genuinely baffled: It doesn't exist.

What HAS happened, I think (this is, admittedly, speculation on my part), is that some aggressive (and in all honesty, I think possibly paranoid or conspiracy-minded - something to that affect) posters have vociferously labeled me publicly a certain way and without my responding to those charges (I chose the "higher ground" and ignored them in the past) it's caught on and seeped into some people's thinking that I'm some sort of instigator.

That's why I keep asking people to give me examples of this and to look back at my post history and read for yourselves. There's literally nothing there that fits the accusations or perceptions. I don't mean to pick on MSNinja, because I like some of his/her humor while genuinely feeling MSN is also a provocateur and crosses the line at times, but if someone were to be called a "troll" or "trouble-maker" I would have thought MSNinja would be one of them. There, you have evidence of it. In my case, I'm both shocked by and offended that this label has been attached to me when there's no evidence of it - only the perception.

Edited 4 time(s). Last edit at 07/02/2017 06:43AM by shoptastic.
I'm going to be honest. I only read shoptastic's posts because they are such a ridiculous cry for attention. *eats more popcorn and continues watching*
@walesmaven wrote:

Moderators: This poster has promised never to post again after at least 6-8 "final posts." She always returns and follows the scenarios that are widely recognized as those of classic TROLLS; poor little me; confused little me; rejected little me. PLEASE wake up and see this poster for what she is. 4+ months of this craziness is more than enough. Jacob, your mods are not taking this seriously!!! It is up to you.

walesmaven,

PLEASE STOP! I literally never provoked anyone or did anything related to "trolling." A troll is an instigator, who stirs up trouble. Where have I ever done that? I've asked people to find a single instance of that.

On the other hand, there ARE members of this forum who do those things that can be easily found.

When I've been upset, it's because you've (and others) called me a book writer in the past, Irene's implied I had a 3rd grade intelligence and mocked me elsewhere, people have been aggressive and rude when there was no need for it, etc. Those are reasonable times to be upset. Would you not agree?

As for returning, I don't understand why that would be held against someone. Wouldn't you want a person bullied and falsely accused of stuff to be able to peacefully return to use the forum?
Listen to me shoptastic! These people, forum members, they aren't talking to you personally.
You......yourself.....your actual person.......they are not talking to you.
They are talking to a random name on a forum.
If they met you in person they would never have the guts to say the things they say.
Most of them get a kick out of hurting other forum members, especially if they can do it in a gang.
You need to understand that you have given them reason by responding to them.
This is all that most of them have left.
bgriffa$$'s parody is only funny to very sad people.
Yes, many people get a kick out of hurting other people
Don't let it be you
You are smart, you are worthy, you are valuable and people care about you!
@CoffeeQueen wrote:

To the OP: I don't know why you've chosen me to address above, but just let me assure you that I am over it. No one questions my integrity and remains on speaking terms with me. You are now and forever toggled.

I sent you a PM, CQ, but don't know if it will go through if I've been toggled.

In the off chance that it doesn't and you do unToggle to read this some day, I just said in the PM that I didn't intend to question your integrity at all in my post. And I apologized if you interpreted it at all that way. I said that I wasn't sure which part you got that from and also explained that I wasn't singling you out in leading off the post with an address of "CoffeeQueen, et. al"

Instead, it was just an efficient and practical way for me to address everyone without having to list everyone's name. I had read your post first and clicked reply. Because my message was to everyone (but also in response to what you wrote too in that post I replied to), I figured it'd be easy to just re: you with an "et. al"

There was definitely nothing coded about it or an attempt to single you out. I apologize if you got that impression!!
@spicy1 wrote:

Listen to me shoptastic! These people, forum members, they aren't talking to you personally.
You......yourself.....your actual person.......they are not talking to you.
They are talking to a random name on a forum.
If they met you in person they would never have the guts to say the things they say.
Most of them get a kick out of hurting other forum members, especially if they can do it in a gang.
You need to understand that you have given them reason by responding to them.
This is all that most of them have left.
bgriffa$$'s parody is only funny to very sad people.
Yes, many people get a kick out of hurting other people
Don't let it be you
You are smart, you are worthy, you are valuable and people care about you!
Thank you for the kind last line, spicy1. If I'm "worthy" it is only due to God's grace! Everyone is a flawed person in some way, yet with God's help we can also all improve. I appreciate the uplifting words.

And thank you for previously standing up with courage to denounce bad behavior.

I can't say that everyone I've interacted with in these contentious threads recently is deeply mean-spirited or completely calloused of heart. However, I think it is clear that some are. Some, I believe, may have genuine misunderstandings with me and I, myself, may be partly to blame.

But I do share your feelings that some seem to exhibit characteristics of classic sado-masochistic gratification in the hurt of others. I can usually tell when someone is obviously trying to hurt me personally. You can sense it in their tone, choice of words, attitude, etc. I agree that I should not "give them a reason" or entry way into doing this stuff. I plan to make a final post (not necessarily my last one here, but final as in the last I want to speak of the subject) to give my peace and then let things be as they may. I'm always open to hearing respectful criticism of myself, as I'm very far from perfect. But if people cannot do that without accusations, insults, and so on, then I shouldn't engage with them any further.

This was a good reminder for me that some people (not all) are not acting in good faith and are simply out to mess with and hurt others. Your point is very well taken!
@kathygry wrote:

Shoptastic, do you feel your posts have made a positive contribution to the forum? I must admit, there are times, when the "Good Old Boys Club" of this forum can be somewhat overbearing, but you managed to insult every single mystery shopper. Not only those who post on here, but all who shop. I think most of us feel our integrity and objectivity are some of the most valuable assets we provide to the end client.

Your long, rambling posts make it difficult to follow your train of thought and I can't help but wonder what your narratives look like!

I will also say that while BG's post COULD be seen as very snarky and in poor taste, it was also really very good!!! It completely mirrored what most of us see in your posts.

I wish you no ill will, but really do not know what you expect and want from the forum members.

I rarely post, but felt the need to speak out.
I can respect that, kathygry. No ill-will, nor offense taken.

I haven't read through this thread itself, nor the "cheating" post yet (have taken single posts at a time to sort of slowly process them and protect my own emotional equanimity), so I can't say that I fully understand people's perspective yet. To answer your first question, I don't think I've made any notable positive contributions to this forum. I've mostly sought help and knowledge as a newbie and also tried to understand some more mysterious areas of mystery shopping that aren't "taught" or "advertised" to you when you first sign-up.

kathygry - I'm still a little surprised by people saying I insulted them. Could you elaborate on that a bit. I ask, because you responded to me in a respectful and non-inflammatory way. I've personally had to skip messages that were started in a hostile tone or from posters who've been rude to me in the past. So I get the feeling I've missed some important things. I am slowly going back through thread posts now. It could take some time to digest. I do think part of the dialogue problem has been that people haven't taken responsibility for their rudeness (I would personally say it goes beyond "overbearing" and there's often a lot of snarky, rude, and insulting comments used on this forum) that's made it "safe" to have a conversation to begin with.

For me, that's where I'm at. I am trying to look back through what others have said, but when it's laced with an abrasive tone to full on insults, then it's not something I wish to do. I can say this - as I've said above in a diff. post - my question about food sampling was a genuine curiosity and desire to better understand if it was considered "a cheating" (note: I don't mean "cheating" as in actively trying to cheat, but say "a cheating" as in unintentionally cheating by effect) of the client.

I asked a very similar question in this thread on April 19, 2017 02:15 AM:
[www.mysteryshopforum.com]

It's a long post (typical me, right?), but I said:

@ wrote:

Were you thinking that a person would be too full after Meal 1 to give an accurate evaluation of Meal 2's food?

If so, that's interesting. I wonder about that.

*skip to the bottom*

Hmmm. I wonder about this dilemma. For sure, anyone can still accurately judge food that's messed up in an obvious way: burned, too salty, raw when it should be cooked, has a hair in it, not hot enough, etc. But what about finer distinctions of tastiness or flavor? Can you really appreciate something the same and accurately when you're already full? If not, then is that unfair for a client who is asking you to evaluate their food? sad smiley

Got me thinking with your post!

I worried after reading some comments that people thought I was intentionally trying to "inflame" the forum, because I had just returned not too long ago from an absence and some contention related to a separate subject. I wasn't carrying over any anger or anything like that from those incidents into a new situation. But I suspected some may have thought that. Perhaps it would have been better for me (I really believe that in hindsight right now) to have abstained from making any posts prior to resolving some older conflicts. I explained why I didn't do that in a separate post in this thread, but I wish I had done that.

But in terms of the food sampling concern, it was triggered by a poster who mentioned doing 28 food shops in a day recently and my mind thinking back to my earlier question about this. But, also, because it's been mentioned before that people have given away their shop food purchases (without eating them) to strangers and homeless people:
[www.mysteryshopforum.com]

I posted in that thread too and was touched by it. My goal is not to admonish anyone for anything. I actually think many people did wonderful and well-intended things in that thread (there was a lot of kindness in it and you could senses it from reading it). I just happened to recall that people mentioned giving away drive-thru shops, uneaten pizzas, and coffees from mystery food shops and wanted to ask if we should be more careful in doing so if it's possibly "cheating the client" (not in intent, but in effect). Some of the examples mentioned in that thread explicitly said there were no taste requirements for the food shops, while others did not. It's an occurrence that's also been mentioned elsewhere too, so I presumed it was not uncommon.

I'll have to go back and read what others wrote some time to get a full sense of the outrage. But I would be happy to immediately read your thoughts here too, because I know you've engaged me respectfully.

re: bg's thread - If the intent was to mock and hurt my feelings, I do have to stand by that it was morally wrong and repugnant (regardless of whether it was a good stylistic parody or not), kathy. It's beyond poor taste if malice and emotional harm were intended. But I also haven't read through the entire thing and am open to a differing view.

re: long posts and intentions - I don't blame you if you don't believe me, but I'm working on the long posts thing. smiling smiley It may not be ameliorated in THIS thread, kathy, due to the nature of it, but I've made shorter posts elsewhere and also intend to be more concise in the future. Don't blame you if you're chuckling at that. tongue sticking out smiley As for intentions, I'm here to learn and contribute knowledge where I can. I've said this before, but I think it's maybe worth saying again. If people read my posts from when I first registered through now with a fair mind, I think there should be no doubt about my intentions. I've never provoked or attacked anyone and have only been friendly - albeit with some long posts. I was an English major for two years, as I told walesmaven and others when they first started longer exchanges with me asking if I was a book writer. Some habits die hard. sad smiley I'm used to writing LONG papers and more "formal" writing. I actually personally don't mind it at all when I read long posts (your point about mine being rambling being well-taken!) and tend to just ignore anything I don't want to read on the forum and don't feel the need to tell others what to do. I figure lots of people have different tastes and interests. I personally just move on to something different. But I'll stop and think about ways I can shorten my posts in an effort to be less annoying for some.

I guess as a final thought for this post, I personally don't get what sometimes feels like a "controlling" nature or tone of people toward others on a public forum. What I mean is that everyone is a unique person with a unique style, interest, way of speaking, etc. Sometimes I feel people jump in and criticize someone for something that's entirely superficial and stylistic that's more of a personal taste for the person doing the critique than something that's really wrong. For me, I don't have hang-ups of that sort and mostly just let people be. I feel it would be presumptuous of me to expect someone to conform to MY interests, unless I think something is an egregious violation of sorts.

Feel free to write back with anything, kathy.

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@nixkit wrote:

I'm going to be honest. I only read shoptastic's posts because they are such a ridiculous cry for attention. *eats more popcorn and continues watching*

As a sideline provocateur, you're just as bad as the cruel category of posters on this forum if you do this, nixkit.

You should stop. I say this in peace to you, but also a real warning to not interfere with other people's conversations. There are real, painful, and sincere concerns being discussed here and respectfully, I simply ask that you respect that and not comment like this or leave.

Calling out others' bad behavior is not a cry for attention, nor is responding to complaints and grievances.

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/02/2017 11:29AM by shoptastic.
@MSNinja wrote:

not sure y u r targeting me. i havent even been here for over month
I think (can't remember) your comment that you deleted about me being on the evening news was inflaming the situation a bit and that's probably part of the reason I brought up your past needling of me. Making the comment you did to me in the emotional state that I was in seemed particularly inappropriate.

A big theme for me in this thread and elsewhere is respect and not being disrspectful to others. That's why I also brought up previous times that you called me a food blogger in the past, MSNinja, when I was talking about your humor. I always felt it was part humor and part borderline taunting me. You also made that thread once with a title that was obviously an attempt to parody/mock me.

I never took huge offense to those things, because I thought it was partly good-natured too. My point was that you can sometimes cross the line (with me and others on the forum), but that you also have a good sense of humor when you're not trying to "mess" with others.

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Unfortunately no one knows how to unplug her network cable remotely.
I do think this is thread is a fantastic idea though! She is free to type up 10,000 word posts and get all upset and she ignores the rest of the forum. We can all just take turns dropping in and typing 1 line responses. That's all it takes to elicit 10 pages of posts. She gets a conversation to monopolize and we get a discussion that isn't disrupted!

There are reasons that a body stays in motion
At the moment only demons come to mind
@CoffeeQueen wrote:

The OP attacks the honesty and integrity of every shopper in this forum, in nearly every thread. Yes, it's done in a very sly manner, but it is most certainly done. She constantly questions whether accepted and common mystery shopping practices are unfair or cheating. Those of us who prize and care for our integrity are deeply offended. We are fighting back in the only way left to us... to demonstrate the absurdity of her conclusions via silly threads. I reported her last thread which actually uses the word "cheating" in the thread title. The thread remains, and that is fine if the moderators don't agree with me. But I am even more concerned now,as she is passively aggressively talking about how "angry" she is in this thread and how she doesn't know what to do with the anger. We are not psychiatrists here and if this out of control, passive aggressive bully, is not going to be reigned in then I may have to take a leave of absence.
just returned after month of moving & nothing changed w op. it looks like she got worse. is there a tower w her nsme on it/
@CoffeeQueen wrote:

Yes. A thread with "Cheating" in the title that explicity says that shoppers who don't eat enough of their food are cheating the client is a thread that is designed for a flame war. And here it is. She will say she just wanted a discussion and changed her mind. Oh yeah, after 3 days of us defending our integrity she finally changes her mind. Amazing.

@LisaSTL wrote:

I am not afraid to say it publicly. I was accused of a personal insult for suggesting he/she stick with hobby shopping. Nonsense threads are only irritating. Most of those were designed with only one thing in mind, trolling.
changed her mind? i think her mind needs outsde help. like someone send forum not phsychiatry office.
@kathygry wrote:

d client.
Your long, rambling posts make it difficult to follow your train of thought and I can't help but wonder what your narratives look like!

I will also say that while BG's post COULD be seen as very snarky and in poor taste, it was also really very good!!! It completely mirrored what most of us see in your posts.
I wit.
train derailed long time ago. i doubt op really does ms. what editor would put up w it?

bg's thread never posted ops name so how does she know its her.

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@ChrisCooper wrote:

This is the online equivalent of Munchausen syndrome--false claims of illness while performing behavior that induces the symptoms of the illness. If you decide not to toggle her, try agreeing with her all the time. When she cannot provoke a fight, she'll leave.
agreeing w/ her all time would make most physcially sick. does vomiting food after shop cheat client?
@CoffeeQueen wrote:

To the OP: I don't know why you've chosen me to address above, but just let me assure you that I am over it. No one questions my integrity and remains on speaking terms with me. You are now and forever toggled.
it is your turn.
@walesmaven wrote:

Moderators: This poster has promised never to post again after at least 6-8 "final posts." She always returns and follows the scenarios that are widely recognized as those of classic TROLLS; poor little me; confused little me; rejected little me. PLEASE wake up and see this poster for what she is. 4+ months of this craziness is more than enough. Jacob, your mods are not taking this seriously!!! It is up to you.
u should send this to owner. perfect.
@shoptastic wrote:

@nixkit wrote:

I'm going to be honest. I only read shoptastic's posts because they are such a ridiculous cry for attention. *eats more popcorn and continues watching*

As a sideline provocateur, you're just as bad as the cruel category of posters on this forum if you do this, nixkit. es.
when did eating pocorn become cruel. i eat alot for low cal snack. that is not cruel for my hips.
@shoptastic wrote:

@MSNinja wrote:

not sure y u r targeting me. i havent even been here for over month
I think (can't remember) your comment that you deleted about me being on the evening news was inflaming the situation a bit and that's probably part of the reason I brought up your past needling of me. Making the comment you did to me in the emotional state that I was in seemed particularly inappropriate.

A big theme for me in this thread and elsewhere is respect and not being disrspectful to others. That's why I also brought up previous times that you called me a food blogger in the past, MSNinja, when I was talking about your humor. I always felt it was part humor and part borderline taunting me. You also made that thread once with a title that was obviously an attempt to parody/mock me.

I never took huge offense to those things, because I thought it was partly good-natured too. My point was that you can sometimes cross the line (with me and others on the forum), but that you also have a good sense of humor when you're not trying to "mess" with others.

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u've been disrespectful to entire forum. when did food blogging become a bad thing? i would love to be food blogger i take aweome food pix. u r taking huge offense cause your r still rambling on & on & on & on. no sense of humor here so stop repeating it over & over & over.
i didnt make parody thread about u. u already accused bg of that even though your name was never mentioned. i guess forum is all about you now & no one else.
@bgriffin wrote:

Unfortunately no one knows how to unplug her network cable remotely.
I do think this is thread is a fantastic idea though! She is free to type up 10,000 word posts and get all upset and she ignores the rest of the forum. We can all just take turns dropping in and typing 1 line responses. That's all it takes to elicit 10 pages of posts. She gets a conversation to monopolize and we get a discussion that isn't disrupted!
i took your advice. have fun.
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