This is not reasonable. She only has my email through MS shopping. I object. Is that not part of our agreement with MSco's?

Tell her about it....

Deva reads here and often posts. I would send her a PM. I agree with you, cyn. When I provide my e-mail address to an MSC, I provide it for use by that company to communicate with me about mystery shopping opportunities with their company only. I don't expect to get additional solicitations. We had another post a week or so ago from a poster who had received a solicitation to purchase skin cream or something similar from an MSC employee. I did not receive it but I would have been offended as that poster was.

Although you mention a person by name ----->Do you receive any unsolicited emails from a client you have shopped?

I know many of the "clients" I have shopped, I have received an unsolictied email. I get mail and offers from Firestone, I don't shop at any Firestone store. I get emails from Party City, Panera, Target or Walmarts. These are clients I haven't given my EMA too.

I know the name DR from an edior/scheduler for a MSC.but if the MSC is giving out our name/EMA. Maybe the client is saying -->"I know you MS, would you mind doing this for us, again?" (online work) or ignore it.

There are things that MSC does that personally we may not agree with but is it a drop-dead crime punishing violation?

I would appreciate the referral and recommendation if anyone contacted me for possible work as a result of getting my information from another source. In fact, that happened to me this week. I received a telephone call from someone who told me up front they had been given my contact information by another company. I did not consider any of this to be out of line, but I realize that is only one interpretation. I wouldn't want to be so protective of my contact information that I prevent myself from getting work offers.

Unsolicited email offers can always be directed to spam. Unwelcomed callers can always be respectfully asked not to call again. Those options are available to all of us. I suspect Deva didn't realize someone would object to having their information used to contact them for work. To believe that MSPs and schedulers don't share information would be naive. If this is unacceptable, contact can always be broken off entirely but cost should be considered.

To all MSPs out there: Please feel free to recommend me and share my contact information. I'm always open to new opportunities and experiences.

Is this the Deva Roberts who Angie has an ongoing war with?

What MSC does she work for ?

And if you are on Sassie, there is a place that is clicked either purposely or
by mistake that will share your info with other Sassie members.

But the client calling you directly - I don't know about that. Might be a violation, but on whose part ?

Meanwhile I got an email that looked like it came from my auto insurer, asking me to fill out a survey about how satisfied I was with my agent.

Okay. I like my agent...but when I clicked on it, I saw it was re-directed to
Maritz.

I stopped filling it out. That's the latest thing, MSC's sending out surveys to shoppers asking them to do survey for free. THAT I object to.

shoppinalong Wrote:
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> Is this the Deva Roberts who Angie has an ongoing
> war with?
>
> What MSC does she work for ?
>
NO, this is Deva Roberts who was a long-time ACE scheduler. Angie knows her well and likes her a great deal as do many of us. She recently left ACE and is scheduling for a couple of other companies.

AustinMom Wrote:
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> shoppinalong Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Is this the Deva Roberts who Angie has an
> ongoing
> > war with?
> >
> > What MSC does she work for ?
> >
> NO, this is Deva Roberts who was a long-time ACE
> scheduler. Angie knows her well and likes her a
> great deal as do many of us. She recently left
> ACE and is scheduling for a couple of other
> companies.


Thanks , that's good to know.

Who is the other Deva? and what MSC, do you know?

If I am thinking of the same issue as you that Angie related to us, the one I think you are referring to is not a Deva and she schedules for KSS.

shoppinalong Wrote:
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> Is this the Deva Roberts who Angie has an ongoing war with?



Don't be starting rumors!!!!!

Both Angie and Deva has been n this forum in support of the MSCs and shoppers, whom they have come in contact with.

and I am not starting rumors---------> but I think Angie's beef was with somone esle of another scheduling co. (You know the sceduling company where Greg used to work and burned his bridges. :-)

I think the other was not Deva, it was diva. I'm not sure her name has ever been used.

OK. The following is just how I feel. Not thinking or saying mine is the only way...

When it comes to privacy, I prefer the opt-in option over the opt-out option. I feel this way not just about privacy when it is related to mystery shopping, but in most other areas as well.

If I gave Entity A my email, phone number, etc., *for a specific purpose*, I would *not* like it if Entity A used that information for another purpose or shared that information with Entity B *without getting my consent first* (opt-in) -- even if Entity A thought I would benefit.

Opting in can be general or specific. For example, I may tell Entity A only once that he/she/it is welcome to share my information with other schedulers or MSCs, and that permission is good *until I tell Entity A I've changed my mind*.

If a scheduler has my information only through mystery shopping and he/she contacts me about income opportunities or products that are totally unrelated to mystery shopping, I probably won't be a happy camper.

Will I be very upset and want the scheduler to be punished? Probably not.

Will I politely let the scheduler know that I am not interested and ask that he/she refrain from using my information in similar manners again? Probably.

I am equally protective of information others shared with me. I may, in some instances, feel comfortable recommending another shopper to a scheduler by first name and general shopping area. However, before giving that shopper's phone number, email address, or last name to the scheduler, I will most probably ask the other shopper's permission first (if the other shopper did not already give me a blanket permission to share her information with schedulers).

Most of the time, I prefer to ask the scheduler's permission to pass along the scheduler's contact information or job posting to the shopper so that the shopper may, at his/her discretion, contact the scheduler.

I feel this way for several reasons. First, years ago, I had a whack-job scheduler call my *unlisted number* and say hostile and creepy things to me – after she got my phone number from another scheduler who did *not* have my permission to share my information. I never worked for that whack-job scheduler and so she did not have my phone number. I never worked again for the scheduler who betrayed my trust and violated my privacy.

Second, once someone has violated your privacy and made previously private information public, no one can really put the genie back into the bottle. It has now been more than five years since I stopped using an email address for shopping or almost anything else – and I am still getting spam at that address.

Finally, most of us know, or know of, schedulers and MSCs that are immoral, unethical and unprofessional. One scheduler was even *convicted* of, IIRC, fraud and identity theft. How would you feel if a scheduler shared your information with someone who later turns out to be a rotten apple?

LisaSTL Wrote:
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> it was diva. I'm
> not sure her name has ever been used.

Because she married the owner of the company, she was acting like a diva. Please forgive us Angie, "we talketh beyond one's back."

It's all good. :-)

Ah - there's a big difference between Diva and Deva.

A Diva is like the top soprano at an opera,,,,,while Deva, I get...

but Angie said in a post she had named the person several times and didnt want to bore us -

new info - so she married the owner and began to act like a beach...got it.

Now what's the name of the MSC and the beach?

Someone PM me, cause I'm gonna keep asking till I find out

I want to know who NOT to work for.

If someone you knew was asked who is a good babysitter, and you are a babysitter, wouldn't you be happy to get a referral? Referrals happen in business all the time. Sometimes people ask their contacts to refer. Some people get paid to refer. A person new to town asked me about referring. It was clear he expected to pay for this business service, but I just sent him to someone who could help. I have gotten several nice assignments because of referrals. I don't see it as the evil one on the other end of the telephone conversation. Probably some people would like to be asked before someone is referred to them, but the referral being a favor, we can't really expect the people to take their own time to ask permission for something that is a kindness for both recipients.

I also get a lot of emails from Deva for shops not in my state, but that is due to my signing up for one of the Facebook "likes." Can't remember which one.

Abaolutely not SS what you would do is email and ASK. I have some interesting offers to make money online and I have checked them out. Would you like to recieve some? I gave my email for mystery shopping purposes that she was scheduling for and nothing more.

If MSCs want us to keep their info private in terms of clients, which I do, then they darn well better keep my info private. I will not waiver from this stance.

I think we have gotten on to some different ideas and people think it was a referral to another company for mystery shopping. Am I correct that the offers were for something totally unrelated, like those website where you sign up for free trials or something?

shopping along: I did not post this to have gossip crap posted. This is about business practices and if we keep doing junk like this we will not be taken seriously as an industry.!!

First, Deva (that's her given name, FYI) is a doll. It's even her nickname: Deva Doll. I have no beef with her. In fact, I will stick up for her if anyone was to say something bad about her. She's one of the few GENUINELY nice people that exist in this world and there aren't many of those. I know her well enough to know she isn't in the habit of sending out spam. I know she's working with a new scheduling company, Summitt Scheduling (not KSS, whose owner, Lorri, I have no respect for in this industry), but I don't know what projects or if they regularly send out business opportunities like I know Dawn Hunt will with her database that you can sign up to get.

It could also be malware, as I had that happen to me a couple years ago and spam was being sent from my email. I know when she was with ACE, she never sent out business opportunity emails and I don't see why she'd do it now. ACE also does not sign up shoppers for client-related emails. I'm lucky that I've never been put on a mailing list for any client I've shopped for with any MSP.

As far as Lorri Kern goes, I am no longer at war with her. She did her best to try to hurt me or bully me into submission. It failed. Though I have considered legal recourse for defamation and the lost wages she caused me with her libelous statments that she made on the handful of MSC profiles of mine to which she had access. It would be fitting and a strong statement that people can't go around bulldozing others to try to get their unethical way.

If anyone ever has questions about me or my "beefs" or "wars" with people, just ask. I'm a direct and honest person, which is what ticked off Lorri in the first place and caused her to go into high gear to get me to shut up. Silly woman. She didn't realize I don't shut up. I won chattiest poster back in the days of the Mystery Shop Resources forum. At least two years in a row. LOL So I certainly would never shut up on demand for others.

To sum it up: Deva, good. Lorri, bad. Questions? LOL

Angie (ACE editor)

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/06/2012 07:35AM by AlwaysAngie.

WOW look what happens while I sleep! ROFL!

Cynb ~ can you reply to whatever email it was so I can see what I sent to you? I only send out opportunities for mystery shopping assignments for the clients I schedule for. If it was a MS assignment opportunity and that is what you did not want to receive from me, please let me know and I will make sure I do not contact you again. I have built up a database over the last 8 years that I have been scheduling and do email shoppers in particular areas that are in my personal database for available assignments. Thanks in advance!


Oh and LAWSY about me and Angie! HEE HEE! That I was floored at reading! I have known Angie for 9, 10 years now? She and I have even spent days together in 'real life' and she is a great friend of mine. Yes we used to work together for ACE. She is still there now and I still love EVERYONE at ACE. Me and her in a fight? ROFL!!! Yeah and even though they are pronounced the same, I am a Deva not a Diva.

Cyn sent me a msg with the link that was included in the email she received. It must be malware because I received an email from my mother in law about an hours ago with a different link, but the SAME page was given when I clicked the links - meaning the same page that Cyn got. Here's what I received from my mother in law. This is my mother in laws real name, but NOT her email address.

Please, if anyone receives ANYTHING with my name in the FROM, please note I only have two email addresses I currently use and one is an @devadoll.com email address and the other is deva@summitscheduling.com. So before anyone thinks that someone personally sent them something like that, check out the from ADDRESS.

Below is what I received just this morning that my MIL did NOT send to me... I called her and actually woke her up.
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-----Original Message-----
From: Jane Scott Roberts [mailto:ygulimi@yahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2012 7:03 AM
To: deva@devadoll.com
Subject: FOR DEVA

http:// sportsguard.com/ images/
8/6/2012 7:04:59 AM

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PS: Even though I use ann anti-virus on my computer, I downloaded an abti-malware program and am running it now... 2 threats found so far. I recommend everyone run one on your computer!

Here's what I downloaded: [download.cnet.com]



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/07/2012 01:44PM by DevaSSE.

Once you click on that link the fun begins and everyone in your address book gets spammed. People I know have had good luck getting it to stop by just changing the password to their e-mail accounts.

Please do NOT click on the SPAM link in Deva's post.

Oh goodness I didn't think about that! Yes, do NOT click it!!! I'm going to edit it NOW

You CAN click the download.com link because it is for an anti-malware product from download.com (CNET).

I didn't realize that this forum would make the links active. UGH!



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/07/2012 01:45PM by DevaSSE.

Malwarebytes.org has an awesome free version of their product. It was recommended by Time Warner when I got malware. When it couldn't get rid of something on my laptop, I contacted support and they were awesome, even though I had the free program. They even recommended another program for me to try to see if that would get rid of the file. The malware was gone but a single file was left behind, FYI. I LOVE Malwarebytes and I'll be downloading the full program when I get my laptop fixed...as soon as I can stop using it for five minutes. LOL


And just to clarify...

sojo917 Wrote:
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> Because she married the owner of the company, she
> was acting like a diva. Please forgive us Angie,
> "we talketh beyond one's back."
>
> It's all good. :-)


She is the owner of her company. And I don't care who she married (poor guy) but I don't doubt that she's got her claws into his system more than she did before she married him. It's her unethical behavior that has her on my poop list for MSing, not who she married or who owns what. Just the many, many games she tried with me in an attempt to control me and shut me up when all she had to do was act in an ethical manner and all her problems with me would've been solved. C'est la vie.

Malwarebytes' free version rocked so much that I paid for one year. Still using it now, in conjunction with AVG's free version. I do have to disable Malwarebytes' paid version sometimes, though, when it is too sensitive and blocks sites I do want to visit and know is safe.