Do You Need a Data Plan to Use the GeoVerify App?
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@bgriffin wrote:
2. Many people do not feel comfortable giving apps access to location services on their phone. Who knows when they are tracking you.
You are always tracked in the digital age. Who "they" are, and why "they" care where I go on my lunchtime walk is beyond me.
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That doesn't change the fact that there are good shoppers who are uncomfortable allowing an msc access to location services.
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Examples of why allowing access is bad:
Geoverify is a product of sassie, so it is affiliated with the shopping industry.
My largest client's largest client is very hush hush. Few mscs are aware they are shopped and even fewer shoppers. Let's say this client is Starbucks. It's not. So with geoverify a company can look and say hrm bgriffin went to 6 Starbucks a day the last two weeks. Somebody must be shopping them. Now their affiliate msc can bid that contract and cause prices to go down.
Or I could negotiate a route with an msc who could then look and say hey you did client x shops across the street at all of those locations. We should have only had to pay half that travel pay.
Geoverify is a product of sassie, so it is affiliated with the shopping industry.
My largest client's largest client is very hush hush. Few mscs are aware they are shopped and even fewer shoppers. Let's say this client is Starbucks. It's not. So with geoverify a company can look and say hrm bgriffin went to 6 Starbucks a day the last two weeks. Somebody must be shopping them. Now their affiliate msc can bid that contract and cause prices to go down.
Or I could negotiate a route with an msc who could then look and say hey you did client x shops across the street at all of those locations. We should have only had to pay half that travel pay.
There are reasons that a body stays in motion
At the moment only demons come to mind
At the moment only demons come to mind
I am not advocating the use of GeoVerify, I am advocating having a data plan.
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It appeared you were as the conversation you quoted was pertaining to required use of geoverify.
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@bgriffin wrote:
It appeared you were as the conversation you quoted was pertaining to required use of geoverify.
No problem. I actually expanded on my opinion later on in the thread. I even agree the needing to use Geo when the shop already requires a receipt makes no sense. It is not our mission to help Geo test it's accuracy or effectiveness.
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I have used Ting for several years, and have been very happy with it. However, it does lead to some strange looks at cell phone stores when the associate asks me who my current carrier is :-)
@nilennovy wrote:
Shoptasic, I have Ultra Mobile (https://ultramobile.com/). I have found their $19 plan to be very affordable, though I did switch up to the $29 plan for the unlimited data. If you run out of data on the $19 plan you can buy more for $5 at a time. I also have Ting on another phone (https://ting.com/), which is post paid. So you pay for what you use then it's billed at the end of the cycle. So depending on your usage, one might be even less expensive than the other.
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Thank you for a voice of reason instead of a snarky comment painting those who don't use it as old or unprofessional. There are a lot of reasons people might not want to add this particular app.@bgriffin wrote:
That doesn't change the fact that there are good shoppers who are uncomfortable allowing an msc access to location services.
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@iShop123 wrote:
Thank you for a voice of reason instead of a snarky comment painting those who don't use it as old or unprofessional. There are a lot of reasons people might not want to add this particular app.@bgriffin wrote:
That doesn't change the fact that there are good shoppers who are uncomfortable allowing an msc access to location services.
That's a completely different point. Obviously (as stated) bgriffin has a smartphone and data. He's up to date on technology. There are shoppers who are not and choose not to be.
You might consider dropping the MS. I've found that geoverifyof is not always right. I deal with many shopping companies and most do not require it. I got my back up when one required geoverify AND a receipt AND a digital photo of the location, which is time stamped. Three POV's are overkill.
@SoCalMama wrote:
@iShop123 wrote:
Thank you for a voice of reason instead of a snarky comment painting those who don't use it as old or unprofessional. There are a lot of reasons people might not want to add this particular app.@bgriffin wrote:
That doesn't change the fact that there are good shoppers who are uncomfortable allowing an msc access to location services.
That's a completely different point. Obviously (as stated) bgriffin has a smartphone and data. He's up to date on technology. There are shoppers who are not and choose not to be.
I think there are two discussions going on here. One about data plans (hard to MS without it) and one about geoverify specifically. My reply, and iShop's reply to it, was on the latter.
JASFL stated some MSCs are requiring geoverify. iShop replied they were losing good shoppers because of it, and several people jumped on that statement that it wasn't dumb and shoppers should just use it. It appears that several posters got the two discussions intertwined as Isaiah also commented on the remark and then later explained he was only talking about data.
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just picked up bunch of shops that u must use geoverify. easy shops w/decent $. thanks. so there is no confusion i have unlimited data access too., so im tlalking about geoverify & data plans.
I have a phone with no data plan that I have used the Geoverify APP with many times with no WIFI available. The APP determines the location based on the GPS of the phone and can store the location when the phone has no internet connection. When the phone is then connected to the internet, it will then connect to the GeoVerify server and create the code based on the time stamp and stored GPS location. If you do not have a connection, the geoverify map will not draw, but it does not stop the geo location tag from being stored and generated.
I have posted impossible geotags in the past from inside North Korea and from an outpost inside the arctic circle.
Anyone who can defeat Geotag to commit fraud can make more money with those skills doing something technical. It does keep honest people honest. I can see the value of having the code when there are multiple quick shops on a route to be certain the report is the correct shop. It is not really a means to prove the shopper was at the location at the time they claim to have completed the shop.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/01/2017 09:04PM by scanman1.
I have posted impossible geotags in the past from inside North Korea and from an outpost inside the arctic circle.
Anyone who can defeat Geotag to commit fraud can make more money with those skills doing something technical. It does keep honest people honest. I can see the value of having the code when there are multiple quick shops on a route to be certain the report is the correct shop. It is not really a means to prove the shopper was at the location at the time they claim to have completed the shop.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/01/2017 09:04PM by scanman1.
It's actually not difficult AT ALL. Tell me a time and place and I could create you a geoverify code in about 2 minutes if I had an android phone.
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Might checkout Straight Talk. I have unlimited talk, text and 5G data for under $50/mo. I don't use much data but after researching all other companies, this was the best deal for me.
Guys, what's the purpose of Geoverify if you can just get a receipt? A receipt (plus they have cameras usually at shop locations) seems irrefutable proof, no?
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After avoiding it for years, I now use it for some shops when only one POV is required and no reimbursement is provided for a purchase. If the MSC needs Geo-verify, a receipt AND a time-date stamped picture, they need to stop giving shops to people they cannot trust.
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By the way, I downloaded GV and was wondering if we only have to request a code ONE TIME once we're at the shop location? Or do you have to press it once upon arriving and once upon leaving usually?
I've never used it before, but will for the first time next week.
I decided to try out a data plan + GV for a month or two and see if it's worth it. I'm guessing it's probably not - at least, not at the $50 rate/month. Maybe on a cheaper plan w/ data. We'll see. Got some calculating and experimentation to do.
I've never used it before, but will for the first time next week.
I decided to try out a data plan + GV for a month or two and see if it's worth it. I'm guessing it's probably not - at least, not at the $50 rate/month. Maybe on a cheaper plan w/ data. We'll see. Got some calculating and experimentation to do.
When I was involved with GPS in the 90's, the accuracy of civilian applications could not be precise. They were off 30 meters. Now it seems to have improved although Google maps navigation will routinely put me on a country road running parallel to an interstate.
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I have free phone service, which includes 500 gb of data, through freedompop.com. I've used this service for over a year now.
@eyelove2shop wrote:
No, you just need an internet connection. If the location you are shopping has free WiFi you should be fine. You can download an app, I get GeoVerify for free. It's in the app store and it's a green logo.
Not true, the Geoverify will pull from the isp address which is not always on site. It is in their (the MSC's) instructions to not use wifi but to shut it off when using Geo for them. I have always been doing it and never realized it wasn't a requirement until today.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/06/2017 09:20AM by LeslieKay111.
Don't forget that you can deduct a portion of the data plan as well as your phone when you do your income tax. I might pay for itself in extra shops that you are now able to complete.
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