Chipotle raising prices

@AZwolfman wrote:

@kenasch wrote:

@AZwolfman wrote:

When CMG cut the job pay by $7 and cut the reimbursement down to $5, it ...

AZ - you posted this incorrect info before and I corrected you then. This shop has never had a reimbursement so it was not cut down to $5 as you state. It has always been a flat fee which was cut from $27 to $25 and now it is $21 (22% from the original pay). So the pay was not cut $7, or 35% as you also state. What has changed is that the order requirement was reduced to as little as one taco and a kids chips. This info is clearly in this thread. The report was shortened and if done correctly can be completed in about 30 minutes. For me, it's still worth it.

kenasch,

I ignored your errant correction the last time, but since you apparently still do not have your facts straight and have publicly called me a liar, I will respond by educating you so that you can make more informed posts.

From reading the many posts in this thread and previous threads, I have concluded that the pay for Chipotle shops is apparently different in different areas of the country. Prices for Chipotle food varies also, even among different locations in the same city. For example, "catlassy" contends that these jobs used to pay $27, and I presume that is probably true where she shops. You say the job fee was cut at least twice and there was never a separate reimbursement. That may also be true where you shop. I have seen only one pay cut, but that 35% pay cut was drastic in my opinion.

I started doing Chipotle shops in June, 2012. The reports were very narrative -intensive and took an hour or more to write. That may have been a lot or writing for a shop that only paid $20, and that kept me from doing more of those shops, but the fully reimbursed burrito meal was tasty and large enough to provide me with a filling lunch. The reimbursement was also enough to pay for a bottomless drink. The narratives requirements were shortened a couple years ago so that it took about 30 minutes to write a report. That made the $20 pay more reasonable.

The reimbursement was always $10. The job fee itself was always $20. Then in 2017 I received an email stating that, because of CMG's struggles, the reimbursement was being cut to $5 (although I was welcome to spend more out of my pocket). And the job fee was also reduced to $13. There was nothing mentioned about reducing the narrative requirement further. The email further stated that they hoped I would not stop doing the shops because of these changes.

Now if you are happy getting only $13 for this job and only getting reimbursed enough for a snack, then by all means move out here and shop Chipotle every month. There are currently still two on the board that have been there all month with no takers. One of them is within a 7 minute drive of me, but I consider the paltry pay not worth the time required to complete the shop and the report. Aside from that, I will not support a 35% wage cut for any shop unless the workload is also proportionately reduced. I shall leave such shops for you and others like you who continue to support such wage cuts when you take these jobs

I was not calling you a "liar" but only pointing out the facts as I know them. I have shopped Chipotle for over 6 years and follow them on the private FB group as well as the many posts on this forum. I have reviewed the various threads on Chipotle and have not found a single shopper mention that there was a reimbursement. The MSC web site for Chipotle does not mention this either. The MSC for Chipotle does also shop a burger chain where I believe there is a reimbursement. Could you be referring to that and not Chipotle?

Would anyone like to comment about receiving a reimbursement amount for their Chipotle shops that was cut from $10 to $5? It's possible that the pay amounts are different for Chipotle in different areas of the country but the MSC website and the posts that I have read don't seem to indicate that.

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So I have learned when I do my shops to keep asking, "Oh, can I have a little more?" I do this for most of the items and I smile each time. I haven't had an issue and I find I get a good serving. I am a petite person and honestly one is plenty for me. If we really calculated the calories even if we limited the cheese and eliminated the sour cream and upped the healthy veggies I am sure one taco is plenty enough calories for most people for a lunch.
@roflwofl wrote:

@brwnidgrl15 wrote:

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First our pay was cut for Chipotle shops by $2, then it was cut by $4 and now Chipotle is raising prices so we'll make even less for the same amount of work. I know I can buy 1 taco and kids chips for $3 something but that's a waste of my time if I then have to go home and eat after spending 45+ minutes getting to and from and doing the shop. My time might be better spent elsewhere.

Although I'm not thrilled at Chipotle pay being less, the report was very much reduced when the $2 cut happened, and it has been reduced still more as the pay went down again in addition to the requirements being lowered, so we currently do a far lesser amount of work for a lesser amount of pay. I would actually say my per-hour fee increased due to the lower reporting requirements. We are making even less for even less work. However, if the prices increase, I will be emailing my scheduler to ask if there will be an off-setting increase in pay to compensate for increased menu prices.

I'm prepared for the MSC to say no. This is similar to A Closer Look. I've worked for ACL for several years. I shop many of same clients now that I shopped in 2010 - at the same reimbursement and no fee. At one local TexMex, there is a $25 reimbursement (NO pay, of course), the same as it was in 2010. EXCEPT, menu prices at ACL's TexMex client are about 30% higher than they were in 2010. Since reporting requirements have not diminished, that truly represents doing the same work for less money. Since ACL does not raise its reimbursements when menu prices increase at its client restaurants, I'm always surprised by the lack of criticism......and by their ability to fill those shops each month.

This do more for less seems to be the industry standard.
Can anyone elaborate on the actual report? I have training materials I am looking at and see a boatload of narrative required.
@janalou wrote:

Can anyone elaborate on the actual report? I have training materials I am looking at and see a boatload of narrative required.

Have you done A Closer Look casual dining reports? I estimate that a Chipotle report is 50% faster and easier than an ACL report and has a lot less narrative.
@kenasch wrote:

@AZwolfman wrote:

When CMG cut the job pay by $7 and cut the reimbursement down to $5, it was a no-brainer that I decided without a moment's hesitation to not do their shops again. For what they are paying now, I should not have to write more than 3 sentences total for the report. $5 is not enough to pay for a decent lunch for one person. I might occasionally eat there, but I will not do same work for 35% less pay and only partial reimbursement for the meal. Their struggles were not my fault, and I will not subsidize them by working for peanuts.

AZ - you posted this incorrect info before and I corrected you then. This shop has never had a reimbursement so it was not cut down to $5 as you state. It has always been a flat fee which was cut from $27 to $25 and now it is $21 (22% from the original pay). So the pay was not cut $7, or 35% as you also state. What has changed is that the order requirement was reduced to as little as one taco and a kids chips. This info is clearly in this thread. The report was shortened and if done correctly can be completed in about 30 minutes.
I For me, it's still worth it.
I have never written one of those reports in under an hour. I do a bunch of them every month. I should be getting faster. I don't know what corners I could trim to get my reporting time cut in half. Suggestions?

Shopping SoCal and Maui.
@janalou wrote:

Can anyone elaborate on the actual report? I have training materials I am looking at and see a boatload of narrative required.

In many cases narrative is only required if there's an issue. If, say, the chicken is fine you can get by without a comment.
@Misanthrope wrote:

@janalou wrote:

Can anyone elaborate on the actual report? I have training materials I am looking at and see a boatload of narrative required.

In many cases narrative is only required if there's an issue. If, say, the chicken is fine you can get by without a comment.

However they do want a comment if you actually ordered the item, even if it's ok. It can be fairly brief.
@PuaM wrote:

I have never written one of those reports in under an hour. I do a bunch of them every month. I should be getting faster. I don't know what corners I could trim to get my reporting time cut in half. Suggestions?

Pua, unless there is an issue or something spectacular, I only comment on the required areas. Since I usually say the same things in certain sections for each report, it flows like clockwork.

I don't time my reports since they are the only ones I do on Sundays and I go at a leisurely pace.

"I told myself to quit you; but I don't listen to drunks." -Chris Stapleton
A post from the facebook page about the raise in prices says there won't be an increase in our payment. The person who responded said that prices aren't going to be raised everywhere, making it sound like if they were maybe our payment would be increased. I don't see that happening since they just reduced it. Not a surprise.
@kenasch wrote:

@Misanthrope wrote:

@janalou wrote:

Can anyone elaborate on the actual report? I have training materials I am looking at and see a boatload of narrative required.

In many cases narrative is only required if there's an issue. If, say, the chicken is fine you can get by without a comment.

However they do want a comment if you actually ordered the item, even if it's ok. It can be fairly brief.

We need to comment in the first section on the look/appeal of every food item. In the next section, "taste," we comment only on the items that we ordered. A sentence or two for each item seems to be enough. It does require that you comment on "no" answers, e.g., if there was no expediter, you will need to write "There was no expediter" in the comments.
@ChrisCooper wrote:

@kenasch wrote:

@Misanthrope wrote:

@janalou wrote:

Can anyone elaborate on the actual report? I have training materials I am looking at and see a boatload of narrative required.

In many cases narrative is only required if there's an issue. If, say, the chicken is fine you can get by without a comment.

However they do want a comment if you actually ordered the item, even if it's ok. It can be fairly brief.

We need to comment in the first section on the look/appeal of every food item. In the next section, "taste," we comment only on the items that we ordered. A sentence or two for each item seems to be enough. It does require that you comment on "no" answers, e.g., if there was no expediter, you will need to write "There was no expediter" in the comments.

You do not have to comment on the look/appeal of every item on the first section of the report. Comments are only required for the items you ordered and those that "wow" you, if any. Check your assignment and the section under "notes" that's highlighted in yellow. It's spelled out clearly there. I only comment in questions 2 thru 14 for the items in my order. I have never had an editor ask for more.
If they raise prices I'm not sure I'm going to continue doing these shops. Twice I've gotten sick from Chipotle (different locations, one was chicken and one was chorizo). I've ordered the taco to save money, and I definitely did not get the overstuffed ROFL type. My taco was thin and I ate it in about 2 bites. The chips are rarely good, they're usually either excessively salty or chewy. And then you have to do the phone call on top of everything else. I can make more money in less time with other companies, and not have to worry about getting sick.
They seem to have moved on ignoring the shopper who got really sick last week.
And she cannot be the only one shopper or not.

@DareWright wrote:

If they raise prices I'm not sure I'm going to continue doing these shops. Twice I've gotten sick from Chipotle (different locations, one was chicken and one was chorizo). I've ordered the taco to save money, and I definitely did not get the overstuffed ROFL type. My taco was thin and I ate it in about 2 bites. The chips are rarely good, they're usually either excessively salty or chewy. And then you have to do the phone call on top of everything else. I can make more money in less time with other companies, and not have to worry about getting sick.
I don't think I'd do them if I got sick, the pay decrease and price increase would defiantly be enough for me to throw in the towel.
@SoCalMama wrote:

I quit shopping one location after getting very sick.
I wonder if all the shoppers who mention getting sick are calling their local health departments.

Shopping SoCal and Maui.
@PuaM wrote:

@SoCalMama wrote:

I quit shopping one location after getting very sick.
I wonder if all the shoppers who mention getting sick are calling their local health departments.

I didn't have to. I saw that they were cited (by the Health Department) in the OC Register (Dana Point location). It was years ago. I wasn't queezy. I was really sick for days.

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@SoCalMama wrote:

@PuaM wrote:

@SoCalMama wrote:

I quit shopping one location after getting very sick.
I wonder if all the shoppers who mention getting sick are calling their local health departments.

I didn't have to. I saw that they were cited (by the Health Department) in the OC Register (Dana Point location). It was years ago. I wasn't queezy. I was really sick for days.
Ah, years ago... I eat occasionally at Jack in the Box. They killed off some customers decades ago. I figure by now they have figured it out.

Shopping SoCal and Maui.
Now they have a note on the Fb page to not divulge report info not specifically saying the person who got ill but you can read that into the warning.
Did they remove that post?

"I told myself to quit you; but I don't listen to drunks." -Chris Stapleton
I'm not sure if they removed the post. I do wish people would read the msc's FB page before posting. So far I've seen 4 different people post on the FB page about the potential credit card hacking.
Is it safe to eat the food at Chipotle? I have seen in the newspaper that some of their food has been contaminated several times in the past.

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Kenasch, I've been a shopper for the MSC since 2006 and was an editor for them for about a year, then went back to just shopping for them. When I first started the pay was a flat fee of $25. Chipotle did a price hike twice over the next several years and the MSC raised the fee to $26, then $27, and of course recently it was cut. The fee has always been a flat fee and never has been a reimbursement plus fee for this MSC. There was another MSC shopping them for awhile. Maybe AZ was doing assignments for the other MSC?
LSUFan, I've been eating there a few times per month for a decade and have never gotten sick. Other people have, apparently. I am personally not worried about it one bit.
@LSUFan wrote:

Is it safe to eat the food at Chipotle? I have seen in the newspaper that some of their food has been contaminated several times in the past.
The office potluck worries me a lot more than just about any restaurant I could eat in. There are no standards for the home kitchen. No one is going to turn in their grandma to the Health Department after getting sick from her Thanksgiving leftovers. For the record, I do multiple Chipotle shops a month. I don't like to do them at the height of the lunch rush because the lines at the locations I shop stretch out the door. I don't see Chipotle going out of business anytime soon.

Shopping SoCal and Maui.
Yes in my area the shops used to pay a flat fee of $27- then it dropped a couple bucks. Now apparently I the price dropped again. I don't do these shops anymore so I am not aware of the new prices.
@catlassy wrote:

Yes in my area the shops used to pay a flat fee of $27- then it dropped a couple bucks. Now apparently I the price dropped again. I don't do these shops anymore so I am not aware of the new prices.

It's too bad you are no longer able to do these shops, because, when the price was lowered, the amount of work was also lowered. In another post, you said you were "dumped" by the MSC. I'm not sure why they dumped you, but it's hard to get dumped by this MSC, Since they are really nice folks and the shops pay better for the amount of time spent than other MSCs for similar work (for example, A Closer Look casual dining shops), I'm seeing a lot of annoyance with the MSC from shoppers who were dumped. If they weren't great shops, shoppers would not care that they were dumped.. I've apparently been doing these shops longer than you. The original payment was $25. This was increased to $27 in 2013, even though the amount of work was not increased. After the Chipotle health difficulties, the number of shops per month at each location was decreased, and, at the same time, the pay was lowered from $27 to $25, and the report became about half as difficult and time-consuming. Recently shops have been cut from $25 to $21. I knock these reports out in less than half an hour.
The amount of work was lowered when the shop went from $27 to $25 but it increased when it went from $25 to $21. They now want comments on all food items you ordered, even if there were no issues with them.
I am finished with Chipotle until they either increase pay or eliminate narratives. Unfollowing post - is there another way to unfollow besides making a post?
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