Shop Fees - Are you willing to loose money??

Nothing. I don't ask. I always have more than enough to do within 30 miles of home, so I would have to get an outrageous offer with a desperate plea to go further.

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@JASFLALMT wrote:

Nothing. I don't ask. I always have more than enough to do within 30 miles of home, so I would have to get an outrageous offer with a desperate plea to go further.

We live in different worlds. "My" thirty mile radius contains mostly private or government land. This is a good thing. I prefer the open spaces to oodles of mystery shopped places which are glommed together and conveniently situated for efficient routing purposes.

Nature does not hurry, yet everything is accomplished. - Lao-Tzu
@AZwolfman wrote:

@JASFLALMT wrote:

I wouldn't drive 100 miles for $75, much less 175.

So just HOW MUCH more than 75 cents per mile do you charge? Do you actually get them to pay you more than 76+ cents per mile?

$0.585 of that is eaten away by vehicle costs. It is only the balance which goes to offset oppurtunity cost and yield profit.
And today as I am putting the final touch on my taxes and totaling things up I am horrified to see that this year my fees way outpaced my reimbursements. What I could have purchased with those tax dollars that I am now going to have to pay to Uncle Donald would have bought me a lot of groceries and gas. But the silver lining is I do not have to worry that the IRS will dispute the fact that I am in a true business.
I looked at my fees, reimbursements and mileage in December thanks to a post I saw on this board. I purchased over 1,000 dollars of needed supplies and equipment and came in under the social security limit. I did not want to pay Uncle Donald either. I also have a new laptop and camera for my MS business.
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I have a full time job and do mystery shopping because I love giving feedback and I experience things I normally wouldn’t! Most of my shops are things I would do anyway. I get free clothes, lunch, dinner, drinks, experiences, groceries, hotel stays, and a lot of times my husband and children get to join in. My five year old LOVES it. She has a fake phone and is always taking pictures of her food “for Facebook”. LOL! I don’t mind losing a few dollars in gas or time for an experience my family would enjoy.

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Can I move to your city? JK. I’m in a somewhat rural area and am ALWAYS driving several miles to a bigger city.
I agree with you. Sometimes if the shop is a nice restaurant it’s worth the break even point. Gets us out of the house for free at least until the next month. But I agree, some of these shops do expect free employeement from us.
I am in the business of taking a profit. If a shop is below $10, I generally won't take it. The exception would be, is the product one that I am interested in, or considering buy for myself? Then I would be willing to break even on the transaction.
I am a scheduler for A Closer Look. We have massage shops every month that reimburse $80 for a one hour massage. Our grocery shops pay a flat rate of $20 no matter what you spend.

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I understand everyone's point and am in no position to judge anyone's personal situation - but let's be honest, every bit of time is money - your travel time is a cost against the job - the time to fill out the reports is a cost against the job and the gas to get to the shop is a cost. Many times I take all of that into account when I am deciding about taking a job. If it is a place I like and I realize that when all is said and done it is an hourly loss, then that is my choice - but if you are doing this to strictly make money then you really have to be picky about the shops and requirements - I think a lot of these companies need to really evaluate how much time is involved with doing these shops. They expect us to spend time interacting at a location or having to spend so much time evaluating at a restaurant or shop, they need to make sure that we are at least making a minimum wage. A $12 shop that requires 30 minutes in the location plus even 10 minutes each way to drive - you are already at 50 minutes of your time, then the expense of whatever you have to buy, and then the 10 minutes to fill out the evaluation form, which now has you at an hour - you are most likely at an overall loss. This is the reason that I only shop at places I like because it is really just a discount program for me.
I try to look at a job holistically. If I sign up for a job, I may have to wait around until I hear I got it. I need to read the instructions, print them out, plan the trip, and perhaps dress correctly. This can take an hour. If multiples are involved, the initial time can be split out over them all. I must then get there. That may take a half hour, unless i have other business nearby. Jobs have averaged a half hour to an hour. Somer require a second trip. I drive home and can take a half hour up to two hours in writing out narratives, making sure I have long enough sentences for a yes/no question, convert photos in the way the company wants them, and reviews the work. I may get a phone call or email that I need to address.

I need to track my time and mileage and other information for taxes. I need to track payments and to be certain I'm reimbursed.

I have always multitasked and get more done in a day than others. Yet it still takes about 2-3 hours minimum or the job. If I have to certify or get clarification on confusing directions, or even sign up for a new agency, a job could take up to six hours.

I could choose to work as a cashier, or at a fast food joint, dog walker, or dishwasher or street sweeper and get paid the Federal Minimum wage of $7.25 up to $12/hour dependent upon each state. And I would not need to pay 15% Social Security.

I don't have a pHD. I don't perform Neurosurgery. But my time is still worth something. I look at the time that will be involved, an I have decided if I net under $10/hr, it is not worth my time. I'd rather sleep in, read or clean. If I needed the money, I would pick up a part-time job--even Target now pays $13/hour all over.

A job will take a minimum of 2 hours if it's not too far or complicated. $4 with a bonus of a dollar is an insult. I don't say to the agency--I may say I only can squeeze in one or two a week and am selective. Now there are also agencies that have little respect for one's time. I had recently received over one dozen requests to do a job (along with everyone else, I imagine.) I contacted the scheduler to ask more. The scheduler required I register, upload photos of myself, provide a writing sample, and take two certifications. After bank information and social security number and a day of waiting, I was able to sign up for the job. Then the detailed instructions required that I had to own a certain brand of a certain product. I wrote the scheduler asking why that wasn't in the original invitation. The reply was that I could remove my name from the mailing list. I know not every criteria can be placed in the emails, but fewer than 2/100 in the US would own this. Taking up hours of someone's time on a wild goose chase shows complete disregard for those people

I've been in sales. There are a few exceptions, but if I want someone to buy something or do something, I try to understand their needs. Have you noticed that the schedulers are always asking for help and saying, 'I need" or "Help me out."? I would listen to a charity asking for help, but if T-Mobile wants me to buy a new phone so they make more profit, I'd hang up the phone. How can an industry in the business of improving customer service treat their partners like this?

The agencies that would pay more would be able to work with the best shoppers, would be able to plan better, get better reports and reduce editing. Their clients would be happier with superior information.

The only possible reason for this would be to increase market share, and then raise prices again. The owners are making far less money and working much harder because of this myopic view. The business is ripe for disruption, and MSCs will go the way of the big bookstores, realtors, travel agencies, and taxi companies.
What I have found is companues dont rsje into consideration rural areas where yiu have to drive more miles thsn suburban areas. For me I have to drive on average 24 miles to get to any major shopping abd at keast 15 miles to the next town. So for me many shops just dont pay enough. I love the one company I am with. The rates make it worth my time as I have to be in those stores anyway.
But I have found few and far between in my area.
AZwolfman - different strokes for different folks. Living in So Cal, 100 miles could take me 3.5 hours. I don't have the stomach for a 7 trip + shop + reporting time. Even then, if I headed towards the boonies and drove 70 mph, I probably would pass on the shop. That's the GREAT thing about mystery shopping - something for everyone.
@rickgrossman wrote:

....The agencies that would pay more would be able to work with the best shoppers, would be able to plan better, get better reports and reduce editing. Their clients would be happier with superior information....

Some fine shoppers are stymied by weather and road conditions. What good does it do to pay a "best" shopper $500 or more to go to a location that is inaccessible due to road and weather conditions? No best shopper, no "superior" information. No access, no need to plan badly, better, or well. Theoretically, the company could pay base pay or higher to any qualified local who can get to the location and obtain the requested information. btw, what is "superior" information? if it is the one company's score of '10', which describes a superior report, then I get it. (I get them!) Is what you mean?

Nature does not hurry, yet everything is accomplished. - Lao-Tzu


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One time I saw a guy standing at the side of a busy intersection with a sign reading "WILL WORK FOR FOOD".

Something was amiss because he didn't look like he was homeless. He had decent clothes and looked clean, as if he just showered and put on clean clothes.

But I figured, who am I to judge. So I pulled over and handed him a $20 bill and said, "here you go, get something to eat".

He refused, replying, "Oh thank you, but no thanks, I have money."

I replied, "If you have enough money to buy food, then why the sign "WILL WORK FOR FOOD".

He looked around as if to make sure no one was listening, pulled in closer to me and whispered, "I'm a mystery shopper and I could not find a restaurant assignment today."


@Shop-et-al wrote:

Keep in mind that it may cost a shopper nothing to complete a shop. In that situation, even a small fee is purely additive.

Nonsense. Every shop requires some time to conduct/complete. Time has a high cost.
You plan your schedule of shops to be cost effective.Tell the schedulers which days work better for you. I don't find it losing money. I plan what will fit my schedule and utilized one bus fare; day pass.
But it's not really $60/hr. because you're not figuring in the time it takes to do the report.
I technically lose money on the $14 grocery shops because I always spend a little over that, but that's $14 worth of groceries I get for free. For someone trying to maintain a house on 1/3 of what used to come in (because my higher-paid spouse left), those free groceries are important. I either do one store on the way home from work, or group 2 stores on a weekend. Totally worth it.

But those fast-food shops, or that quick fire pizza place that ain't so great? Not worth it at all.

Recently I did a high-end dinner with a $180 allowance for 2 people. I took it, thinking I'd spend around $200. With all the required food plus tip, it cost $270. Ouch! But it was worth it to me because it was a damn fine meal at a place I normally would never go, and I got to treat a friend who's been having a rough time lately. That was worth it (even though the report took me several hours!).

It's all relative. :-)
This is not an easy question to answer, and responses will be different. As a newbie, I have accepted low paying assignment because initially I did not realize how much work is involved in some assignments. Experience has taught me that low paying shops with certain Mystery Shopping Companies may not be worth it. However, many of these not-so-well paid shops required extensive explanations to long surveys (that were a pain in the neck), yet those surveys prepared me by enhancing my writing and communication skills for better paying in depth questionnaires. In addition, I agree with the grouping of shops. If I accepted 2 well paying shops in an area, and there is a low paying assignment a few miles away, it may be okay to sign up for that one...if I think the shop is worth my time.
WOW...never judge anyone. We never know why someone is carrying a sign. Many times there situation is legitimate.
You've got it right, it's all relative. Restaurants and dining are worth different things to different people. I've done reimbursement only dining because the meal/restaurant was good and I got a 3 course meal out of it for a not so difficult report. Sometimes they had BOGO free on the entree too, which made the deal even better.

As for the FF shops not being worth it, not all of them are the same. You can actually get a decent somewhat healthy meal paid for plus make a decent fee sometimes.


@amyann2 wrote:


It's all relative. :-)
@merchmerch wrote:

One time I saw a guy standing at the side of a busy intersection with a sign reading "WILL WORK FOR FOOD".

Something was amiss because he didn't look like he was homeless. He had decent clothes and looked clean, as if he just showered and put on clean clothes.

But I figured, who am I to judge. So I pulled over and handed him a $20 bill and said, "here you go, get something to eat".

He refused, replying, "Oh thank you, but no thanks, I have money."

I replied, "If you have enough money to buy food, then why the sign "WILL WORK FOR FOOD".

He looked around as if to make sure no one was listening, pulled in closer to me and whispered, "I'm a mystery shopper and I could not find a restaurant assignment today."


@Shop-et-al wrote:

Keep in mind that it may cost a shopper nothing to complete a shop. In that situation, even a small fee is purely additive.

Nonsense. Every shop requires some time to conduct/complete. Time has a high cost.

Hmm. How would you price your time for each second that you spend on the forum? Does someone pay you to do this, or do you do this for free?

Nature does not hurry, yet everything is accomplished. - Lao-Tzu
Why you don't think mystery shop are fun this is what I believe whatever Job you do is what you make out of it if it sad and boring it's up to you to lively it up a little but don't to lively that you can't get the job done it's what you put in it that's what I believe
(SoCalMama 3k 7y
Lighten up OP. Your grammar and punctuation are terrible. Perhaps work on that, and you’ll get better fees?)

I am a professional writer, but I slack when I'm in what I trust is friendly territory. I guess this is not.

I am with you, OP.

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