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Don’t buy that for 1 second. Fedex it for Gods sake instead of putting someone’s life in danger for $12
@walesmaven wrote:

After some more thought, I could be wrong, but I do not think that "process serving" is what the MS company is wanting shoppers to do. Process serving, as I understand it, is the delivery of a court order. What the letter described appears to me to be is from the lender informing the resident that the lender is about to petition the court so that it could proceed with the first steps in foreclosure.

HOWEVER, delivering that letter carries risks to the delivery person. I am not trying to downplay the risk.

You are correct this is not "process service." This is nothing more than the delivery of a letter. (passing a note) I've done several but never at such low price and not all were foreclosure related. Some were documents the receiver had to sign and mail back to the sender.

A Dad shopping the Ark-LA-Tex and beyond.
We are still overlooking something. Many people know the drill. They know that there are steps in the procedure. Not all of them will be hostile! Where is the statistic about how many are likely to be hostile and how many will accept the paperwork (or whatever) in a more matter-of-fact way?

Nature does not hurry, yet everything is accomplished. - Lao-Tzu
I don't want to be the one to find out.

"I told myself to quit you; but I don't listen to drunks." -Chris Stapleton
@HonnyBrown wrote:

This is through We Go Look.

I have done these for $20 and the good thing is every one of them the people have already moved out of the house by the time I get there. You still get paid. So basically you take pictures of the front of the house with the address, a couple looking in from the windows.
Statistics? One. All you need is that one violent recipient to mess up your day, your car, your face, and maybe your life.

Definitely sounds like something for someone with self-defense training, knowledge of weaponry, and the knack of negotiating a huge bonus.
this company WGL does background checks on their "lookers" and they have a good support staff; also, never been stiffed. When I used to perform these * confidential door * envelope deliveries, I would try to be as efficient as possible to get job done ASAP B4 I was confronted by either the resident or a nosy neighbor and that's too much for me. Definitely risky business !
I recently mailed a letter to my insurance company....Certified AND Return Signature......total cost: less than $6.00 via USPS....why couldn't We Go Look just send a certified/return signature to the person for half of what they are asking someone to do that is risky??? I'd never do this job.
The risk issue aside, what are the chances the intended recipient is going to be home and if they are home, will even answer the door? What if they crack open the door to speak with you but refuse to take the document?

At least it is summer time (forecast 101 here today!), but our days are getting shorter and obviously less daylight hours in the winter to do these jobs.
I've gotten calls from debt collectors who wanted me to go to a neighbors house and see if they were home. I've always said, do it yourself.
@sestrahelena wrote:

Statistics? One. All you need is that one violent recipient to mess up your day, your car, your face, and maybe your life.

Definitely sounds like something for someone with self-defense training, knowledge of weaponry, and the knack of negotiating a huge bonus.

FYI, this MSC's ICA specifically states no weapons may be carried on your person or in the vehicle. Ditto bringing a buddy along, unless they've been through the MSC's background check process as well. That is to say: unless they are your competitor. In some states you may well be required to have a PI license or be recognized as a process server to legally do this anyway.

So in the likely eventual case where the homeowner takes your presence as the first wave of some bank's invasion forces (which it is) and goes nuts, it's just you and that winning smile standing alone on the porch waiting for police and an ambulance. Then at some point during the ambulance ride it finally hits you that in your preoccupation to stop the bleeding from your face and head you failed to get your required snapshot so you probably won't be paid. And guess what happened to your car that you left in front of this person's house after you were carted away to the hospital?

Maybe others' skills or temperament would make this easy money but it's not me.
Are you serious!? I'm glad you responded that way.

@johnb974 wrote:

I've gotten calls from debt collectors who wanted me to go to a neighbors house and see if they were home. I've always said, do it yourself.

"I told myself to quit you; but I don't listen to drunks." -Chris Stapleton
I never consented to a background check.

@SS4U wrote:

this company WGL does background checks on their "lookers" and they have a good support staff; also, never been stiffed. When I used to perform these * confidential door * envelope deliveries, I would try to be as efficient as possible to get job done ASAP B4 I was confronted by either the resident or a nosy neighbor and that's too much for me. Definitely risky business !

"I told myself to quit you; but I don't listen to drunks." -Chris Stapleton
It's a regional bank that recently merged with another regional bank.

@panama18 wrote:

I'm curious to know which bank thinks this is a good idea.

"I told myself to quit you; but I don't listen to drunks." -Chris Stapleton
Next for Mystery shoppers, our "beloved" companies will ask you to search houses for drugs and say it's o.k. with the police. This is shocking and even more so is the fee (12.00)

Live consciously....
Debt consolidation was mentioned in a previous post which sent up a red flag for me. Thinking about it, this sounds like the fake IRS calling on the phone to tell you that you're going to jail unless you send them money right now. I have a feeling that letter that gets posted is not from the real Bank. Banks usually don't do that. They want your money, they don't want your house. There is legitimate debt consolidation but a huge portion of it is scammy. People who get shook up and sucked in lose everything that way. Maybe that's why they don't send it in the mail, because then it becomes a federal offense as well. It's also scarier when it's posted to your door so you would be more likely to fall for it.
@HonnyBrown wrote:

Has anyone done these? I'm curious to know if you're entering into a hostile situation.

Yes. Just think about all the hostility shoppers endure at gas stations. For this shop you are asked to not only post a letter on the door, but to also take photos through the window??? For 12 bucks???? I cannot think of an easier way to get shot at (and apparently your instructions forbid you from carrying anything or bringing anyone for protection).

Don't do it.
Based on 3 years doing repos way back when, I can tell you that yes, some will accept it in a matter of fact way. Others won't answer the door. And some will be wild cards. You won't know what you've drawn until you're standing on their doorstep.

At least you don't have to talk your way inside and take their stuff. But I still wouldn't do these.

@Shop-et-al wrote:

We are still overlooking something. Many people know the drill. They know that there are steps in the procedure. Not all of them will be hostile! Where is the statistic about how many are likely to be hostile and how many will accept the paperwork (or whatever) in a more matter-of-fact way?
There are risks with everything. Just look at the stats for flying, boating, etc. People do these inherently risky activities! Some shoppers have a heckuva time getting through traffic and other dangerous obstacles just so they can complete assignments. But they push through and do their work despite the inherent dangers of travel and transportation.

There might be a certain degree of fear-mongering happening here. I suspect this based upon something in rl. An individual who should know better has done a wonderful job of making lots of people believe that certain persons are: nuts, dangerous, to be ignored, and/or to be reported for breathing or otherwise showing signs of life. As it turns out, this is all fear-based baloney. But people who believe in this stuff consistently mistreat others because they believe it is the correct thing to do. They cannot be taught another way, and they are resistent to the truth. The truth would seem like a bad thing to them! They believe that their abuse is warrnated, supported, and justified.

So back to the gig. Are the majority of recipients really going to go ballistic, pull a weapon, take a hostage, or otherwise endanger the mystery shopper/delivery person? Probably not. But people who believe that recipients are going to go ballistic are going to shy away from this gig and possibly carry a lifelong unsupported belief about strangers. We are supposed to be objective. Is this happening? But this is not the most interesting. part of the job.

For me, the most interesting aspect of the gig is the payment. This sounds like a messenger job with a twist. Regional pay for messenger service + fee for a few pics = a reasonable payment. YMMV.

Nature does not hurry, yet everything is accomplished. - Lao-Tzu
Who cares about statistics, it only takes one hostile person to push you or have a gun...
why on earth would anyone consider this for 12.00?

Live consciously....
@Irene_L.A. wrote:

Who cares about statistics, it only takes one hostile person to push you or have a gun...
why on earth would anyone consider this for 12.00?
100% agree with you on this one.
Previously banned poster with another new identity.
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Previously banned poster with another new identity.

So true! This brings to mind the housing crisis of 2008 when people were shooting the messengers who came to their homes.

@Irene_L.A. wrote:

Who cares about statistics, it only takes one hostile person to push you or have a gun...
why on earth would anyone consider this for 12.00?

"I told myself to quit you; but I don't listen to drunks." -Chris Stapleton
No doubt there's a price point at which maybe this becomes attractive work. But $12 is not it.

@Irene_L.A. wrote:

Who cares about statistics, it only takes one hostile person to push you or have a gun...
why on earth would anyone consider this for 12.00?


Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/23/2019 06:21AM by JustForFun.
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