How has the CoronaVirus affected you?

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The bureaucracy around testing--perhaps because of the shortage of test kits?--means that we had a local death from COVID-19 before the test results came back to 'officially' announce there was a local case. The deceased 'travelled abroad' but no information given of where or when or what they had been doing over the past several weeks. Do our bureaucrats think they are preventing public concern when they don't recognize our need to know to protect our own health and the health of others? What a way to run a pandemic!

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Costco has stopped samples. There was also a limit today of two each for water, sanitizer, and paper products.

Part of our "panic" in King County, WA is that we know that the virus is here and has been incubating for weeks. People are sick (it is flu season after all), but we cannot get them all tested, so we really have no idea how many folks actually have COVID-19. There have been some cases where folks have passed with symptoms that could indicating COVID-19, but, due to the shortage of test kits, we don't know if it was actually Coronavirus or simply an elderly person with a nasty cold or flu.

As of yesterday, there were zero confirmed cases of COVID-19 in the district where I teach - not just in the school system, but in the entire city. As the city is maybe 10 miles from the Life Center in Kirkland, it is almost impossible to believe that there aren't any infected folks at all. So, we know it's here. We just don't know how widespread it really is.

The "Fear of the Unknown" sucks.

@Flash wrote:

The bureaucracy around testing--perhaps because of the shortage of test kits?--means that we had a local death from COVID-19 before the test results came back to 'officially' announce there was a local case. The deceased 'travelled abroad' but no information given of where or when or what they had been doing over the past several weeks. Do our bureaucrats think they are preventing public concern when they don't recognize our need to know to protect our own health and the health of others? What a way to run a pandemic!

Hard work builds character and homework is good for your soul.

There goes my expected $800 in income for the month for doing demos...This is how its impacted my shopping and merch jobs.

I wish I had only lost $1200 in the market these few weeks. You only lose it if you seel it. It will come back. Just takes time.

Our pantry has plenty of dried beans and lentils. I shop for fresh produce three times a week, but if push came to shove I could do without. However, a blog I read earlier today reminded me that I should stock up on cat food. We typically have about a week's worth in the house.

@walesmaven wrote:

In anticipation of local self-quarantine possibilities, I bought some extra staples. NO not TP or bottled water. Canned tomatoes, canned pinto and black beans, all purpose flour, ground beef, lentils, onions, celery, chicken; canned tuna, corn bread mix, baking soda; those sorts of things. I have plenty of noodles and pasta on hand and will add a small supply of packaged, long shelf life milk when I am out tomorrow

Happiness is not a goal; it is a by-product. Eleanor Roosevelt

@KathyG wrote:

Our pantry has plenty of dried beans and lentils. I shop for fresh produce three times a week, but if push came to shove I could do without. However, a blog I read earlier today reminded me that I should stock up on cat food. We typically have about a week's worth in the house.

@walesmaven wrote:

In anticipation of local self-quarantine possibilities, I bought some extra staples. NO not TP or bottled water. Canned tomatoes, canned pinto and black beans, all purpose flour, ground beef, lentils, onions, celery, chicken; canned tuna, corn bread mix, baking soda; those sorts of things. I have plenty of noodles and pasta on hand and will add a small supply of packaged, long shelf life milk when I am out tomorrow

I thought about cat food too, but we have about 20 pounds of fresh caught tuna in the freezer for the cat.

He'd have to deal with it if push came to shove. Usually, we only grill it for him in the summertime with some EVOO.

Cat litter, I guess I'd need. We only have indoor cats in my area. The rest are coyote food.

@SoCalMama wrote:

@KathyG wrote:

Our pantry has plenty of dried beans and lentils. I shop for fresh produce three times a week, but if push came to shove I could do without. However, a blog I read earlier today reminded me that I should stock up on cat food. We typically have about a week's worth in the house.

@walesmaven wrote:

In anticipation of local self-quarantine possibilities, I bought some extra staples. NO not TP or bottled water. Canned tomatoes, canned pinto and black beans, all purpose flour, ground beef, lentils, onions, celery, chicken; canned tuna, corn bread mix, baking soda; those sorts of things. I have plenty of noodles and pasta on hand and will add a small supply of packaged, long shelf life milk when I am out tomorrow

I thought about cat food too, but we have about 20 pounds of fresh caught tuna in the freezer for the cat.
He'd have to deal with it if push came to shove. Usually, we only grill it for him in the summertime with some EVOO.

Cat litter, I guess I'd need. We only have indoor cats in my area. The rest are coyote food.

Litter! Yes we need that, too :-)

Happiness is not a goal; it is a by-product. Eleanor Roosevelt

My kid's school district has just cancelled all classes and events for the next week. Fortunately my kids are 14 and 12 so I can leave them at home while working but I try not to leave them for more than a couple of hours at a time. This next week will be interesting for sure.

We made a trip devoted to finding out what is where. We got a few staples, cleaning supplies,and things we use for the early job.

For a moment or three, it occurred to me that this was like playing the old computer game about the Oregon Trail. Players had to guess at how much of everything they needed for the moment and could carry for the long haul. They lost money if they had to dump something later due to excess weight or spoilage issues.

Back to your regularly scheduled thread now..

Nature does not hurry, yet everything is accomplished. - Lao-Tzu

I posted that I lost $1200 back in January.
It's the first week of March now. Trust me, i have lost a lot more since then (unfortunately). But no, I didn't sell anything when it was down. I took some profits from my technology stocks when the markets were up.

@Insight wrote:

I wish I had only lost $1200 in the market these few weeks. You only lose it if you seel it. It will come back. Just takes time.

We were out at a dining shop tonight at a bar. A woman right next to me was coughing and blowing her nose, and was making no effort to cover her mouth. I got up and changed seats and gave an excuse (we were directly behind the taps). This was my first feeling of true paranoia, being out in a public area. It was weird, to havd that immediate sense of dread instead of thinking, "I hope I don't catch a cold."

It's pretty gross that she was doing that in front of people, especially at a place where they serve food and drink, ugh. But the good news that snotty noses are not one of the symptoms. It's fever, shortness of breath, and dry cough that are the symptoms. But still disgusting she was doing that.

For cat litter, we have started using the Pine bedding pellets that are sold at the local Tractor Supply Store. A 40 pound cost right at 6 dollars depending on taxes in your area. the pine pellets will degenerate when they get wet. Then you just have to pick the stools out using a plastic bag. I started using this after seeing a Youtube vid on the product. It has been almost a month since we bought our first bag. Just went and got recently but then again we have seven cats. With one or two cats a 40-pound bag would last for months. Maybe all of those preppers were right yo need to have a couple of weeks food stashed away. Better if it is a couple of months. Bet the people in China wished they had of thought of that.

@SoCalMama wrote:

@KathyG wrote:

Our pantry has plenty of dried beans and lentils. I shop for fresh produce three times a week, but if push came to shove I could do without. However, a blog I read earlier today reminded me that I should stock up on cat food. We typically have about a week's worth in the house.

@walesmaven wrote:

In anticipation of local self-quarantine possibilities, I bought some extra staples. NO not TP or bottled water. Canned tomatoes, canned pinto and black beans, all purpose flour, ground beef, lentils, onions, celery, chicken; canned tuna, corn bread mix, baking soda; those sorts of things. I have plenty of noodles and pasta on hand and will add a small supply of packaged, long shelf life milk when I am out tomorrow

I thought about cat food too, but we have about 20 pounds of fresh caught tuna in the freezer for the cat.
He'd have to deal with it if push came to shove. Usually, we only grill it for him in the summertime with some EVOO.

Cat litter, I guess I'd need. We only have indoor cats in my area. The rest are coyote food.

Your cats agree to use that litter? Was there any transition phase?

@2stepps wrote:

Maybe all of those preppers were right yo need to have a couple of weeks food stashed away. Better if it is a couple of months. Bet the people in China wished they had of thought of that.

I’m not sure that you are aware that the minimum wage in China is $2/day? A good percentage of them don’t have enough money to hoard or prep. They also have limited room if they live in the city.

You will need a new litter pan anyway so just have the new one out and the old one and see which one gets used the most. That is what we did and even the finicky ones are now using the pine pellets. Man, I just realized that you can train the cats with the pine pellets to use the toilet when they do a job you just empty the pellets into the toilet and let them sit till they dissolve and flush away. But I would only do it if you have city sewer, not a septic system.

@Niner wrote:

Your cats agree to use that litter? Was there any transition phase?

Worth a try. We have access to one of these stores, so we'll get some and see if they agree to it. Thanks for the idea!

Make sure you get a double pan put small holes in the bottom of one and then sit that one in the other Then hand-pick the stools and shift the pine nugget powder out into the other pan. Dispose of it however you do but one thing is that you can also compost the pine nugget powder though I would only do it for flowers not something that you will eventually eat.

I don't think I can "hand pick" those..hah
The scooper is bad enough

@Niner wrote:

I don't think I can "hand pick" those..hah
The scooper is bad enough

Yeah well, do not fill badly. Just get a plastic bag and pretend that you are picking up after your dog on a walk. They have had the advantage of drying out a little so they will not feel squishy like the dog scat does. I mentioned this to my oncologist and she came unglued on me. Turns out toxoplasmosis is bad for cancer patients and for people that have had a quad bypass who knew.

A regional boutique MSC that mostly does restaurant/bar shops lets its shoppers go anytime within the month. Over the weekend the owner/scheduler sent an email saying one of his clients had suspended shops and that he suggested we all do our shops as early as possible before any more get suspended. Likewise I'm doing a Shake Shack shop on the first day of the 10 day window just in case -- although the location in question does a lot of delivery so perhaps their total business is up!

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I was just eating lunch at a local Indian restaurant and got a hot pepper stuck, which kicked off a 10-minute (elbow) coughing jag.
A nearby table of three got up and moved to the other side of the dining room, lol.

The Tucson Festival of Books, scheduled for March 14-15, was cancelled today. More than 100 of the scheduled 345 authors had decided not to participate in the last few days. At least 100,000 people usually attend this annual event held on the University of Arizona campus. I now have the entire weekend free to inventory my pantry. BTW, our first case of of coronavirus was confirmed by the county health department this afternoon.

I feel kinda lucky that I live in an area that basically is empty until the summer months. I know that in a few months, the town will be flooded with people looking to soak up the sun on the beach, but for now I feel pretty safe. If this had started in the heat of the summer, I think I'd be sealing up my apartment and staying indoors, there's too many people out there.

I worry about those of you in schools and those traveling a lot.

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My school district is near the epicenter of the outbreak. They have been having training meeting for remote learning. Rumors spread at lightening speed. It's stressful. I don't even know how to plan for class or if I should start putting together lessons for remote learning and what this would look like. We have another meeting after school today. People think we won't last the week. I don't think we will close. I'm skeptical though.

@Niner wrote:

My school district is near the epicenter of the outbreak.

Where are you located? I'm about 10 miles from the Kirkland Life Center, where most of the deaths are, in Washington State.

Hard work builds character and homework is good for your soul.

I am in Massachusetts, all collages have stopped all overseas semesters. Harvard and another college has stopped all semesters and will be having on-line teaching only. Students have been asked to leave their dorms.
My Grandsons college, Endicott Beverly Ma. has asked the teachers to start being prepared for on-line courses for the next semester just incase this is needed. My daughter has 5 children in College, Fl., and Mass. Logan Airport has canceled Mystery shoppers, not sure of who they work for, canceled as of today.

Same goes with quoting nytimes, cnn, abc, cbs, bbc. None of these are trustworthy sources.

@SteveSoCal wrote:

@Texans wrote:

There is a biological weapons lab located in Wuhan. Several major news agencies have confirmed that the virus escaped from this lab. Fox News was the first.

This has been debunked and starts to fall under a politically based post when you start quoting Fox news:

[www.nytimes.com]

Please do a little research before making statements like that.....

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Fact-check, snopes are also left wing biased. None of these are reliable sources of truth. To some, some news are conspiracy and to some they are the truth. Unless one is awake, they always think odd theory is conspiracy. Everybody is free to express what they believe and none should be prohibited.

@SteveSoCal wrote:

@iShop123 wrote:

Johns Hopkins has a breakdown of the virus (for which there is evidence that it may indeed have originated in a lab, but whose purposes we can only speculate - one source is Al-Jazeera), and very few young people have died. It's mostly the over-60 crowd, with a high concentration of 80+. If you're healthy and/or young, you likely don't need to worry. eta: Can't find the JH link right now

The JH link to mapping the virus is here:

[systems.jhu.edu]

There is no mention of it originating in a lab...because that's a completely debunked conspiracy theory, and it would be great if forum members could please stop posting conspiracy theories that serve no productive purpose.

If you simply do a search for 2019-nCoV originating in a lab you will see plenty of articles debunking said theories...like this one from factcheck.org:

[www.factcheck.org]

First posting guideline: Be honest.

If you can post baseless theories to a forum, you have all the tools need to find articles from trustworthy sources...

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