@LindaM wrote:
as you have probably experienced and witnessed, someone on this board will justify taking the shop… boggles my mind, this is the only field i know where pay rates go down year after year…
@hbbigdaddy wrote:
Not sure why you are "boggled." This is basically a low to no-skill job that is open to anyone that wants to sign up. So someone who just wants something to do or to reduce their cost of doing something, will take the shop.
I would like to think I have "skills" at this, but I am no better than someone else who clicks self-assign at a price that I might not take.
We like to think we do a good job and deserve more pay, but this is not high-skilled labor here. It just takes someone willing to front the cost of food/gas/service/etc and fill out a report. I understand that some of us are more observant or more detailed than others, but it doesn't matter to the MSC. They are happy to fill shops for as cheaply as they can and there are those willing to meet their wishes.
@LindaM wrote:
as you have probably experienced and witnessed, someone on this board will justify taking the shop… boggles my mind, this is the only field i know where pay rates go down year after year…
@whosear wrote:
The skill that I see lacking in people is the inability to be objective and to follow the guidelines. Most people I've known what to write in the vernacular, treat the report as a personal review and have trouble keeping track of what needs to be done. So there is a skill set needed.
@LindaM wrote:
well… a no skills and no education (and sometimes no english) job like flipping burgers continues to get paid more year after year…
@LindaM wrote:
bc life doesn’t have to be some compartmentalized. i like to see things in a big picture. you do you. bless your heart.
@hbbigdaddy wrote:
@heywave
The OP posted about doing an audio recorded car wash. So yes, a 3rd grader couldn't do that shop legally since they are too young to drive, but the actual "skills' to record the interaction and complete an online report is doable.
I think people "over-value" the skillset needed for this type of work. It does not require training. You learn "on the job" and improve things as you go. The market will dictate what price needs to be paid for these shops. We have already seen other posts and know that people are taking shops at base pay or even no pay because it can offset their costs or fill gaps on a route.
So the skills needed to complete the 1 shop are not really needed. But to be an effective, efficient and profitable shopper, that is where the "skills" come in. Someone who knows how to manage their time effectively, document notes and keep track of shops that have paid vs not paid and make sure you do not have rejected shops from sloppiness or errors.
@gigishopper wrote:
The car wash shops in my area cost $22. After a weather event (snow/ice), I will pick up a car wash shop at whatever pay is offered on the board because I need a car wash. $22 reimbursement and $5 pay for a service I would pay for anyway works for me. This is one reason shoppers take them. I am neither inexperienced or undereducated. Its a smart financial move for me.
@1forum1 wrote:
I did a few of those car wash shops a couple of years ago. I grew to hate them. Anyway, @John ... You still get reimbursement for the car wash.....At first glance, the job listing mentions the job fee only. However, clicking on the job comments it states the job fee "+ reimbursements up to $21.99 for a single car wash purchase." It actually mentions the $21.99 reimbursement twice in the comments. Why they don't include the reimbursement and job fee together in the listing anymore is a mystery to me. Anyway, come one come all. Have at it. No competition from me!
@hbbigdaddy wrote:
Not sure why you are "boggled." This is basically a low to no-skill job that is open to anyone that wants to sign up. So someone who just wants something to do or to reduce their cost of doing something, will take the shop.
I would like to think I have "skills" at this, but I am no better than someone else who clicks self-assign at a price that I might not take.
We like to think we do a good job and deserve more pay, but this is not high-skilled labor here. It just takes someone willing to front the cost of food/gas/service/etc and fill out a report. I understand that some of us are more observant or more detailed than others, but it doesn't matter to the MSC. They are happy to fill shops for as cheaply as they can and there are those willing to meet their wishes.
@LindaM wrote:
as you have probably experienced and witnessed, someone on this board will justify taking the shop… boggles my mind, this is the only field i know where pay rates go down year after year…
I totally agree. I cannot imagine a new shopper taking on an overnight casino/resort shop with over 30 interactions while fronting hundreds of dollars for expenses that could be forfeited if the shop got rejected. Skills and justified confidence are the differences between an unskilled new shopper and one who has gained skills and other qualities through experience.@whosear wrote:
The skill that I see lacking in people is the inability to be objective and to follow the guidelines. Most people I've known what to write in the vernacular, treat the report as a personal review and have trouble keeping track of what needs to be done. So there is a skill set needed.
@luckygirl0100 wrote:
I have a 3rd grade daughter... she had a sleepover with friends about three weeks ago or so. They spent the entire night 'making a movie'.
They wrote the script, did makeup/ hair/ wardrobe and then used an old iPhone (doesn't have service just connects to our wifi) to record their movie. They also look lots of photos & edited them, then put them together in a photo slide kinda movie presentation.
Yeah, 3rd graders could do this job. Wouldn't be amazing work to read the narrative and mistakes would be made but it could be done. And as someone who has spent time as an editor, I can assure you MANY reports I saw appeared to be from those with less than a 3rd grade education.
@hbbigdaddy wrote:
@heywave
The OP posted about doing an audio recorded car wash. So yes, a 3rd grader couldn't do that shop legally since they are too young to drive, but the actual "skills' to record the interaction and complete an online report is doable.
I think people "over-value" the skillset needed for this type of work. It does not require training. You learn "on the job" and improve things as you go. The market will dictate what price needs to be paid for these shops. We have already seen other posts and know that people are taking shops at base pay or even no pay because it can offset their costs or fill gaps on a route.
So the skills needed to complete the 1 shop are not really needed. But to be an effective, efficient and profitable shopper, that is where the "skills" come in. Someone who knows how to manage their time effectively, document notes and keep track of shops that have paid vs not paid and make sure you do not have rejected shops from sloppiness or errors.