@Book wrote:
The illegals are getting bankrolled by certain governors with free apartments and credit cards. I don’t think they will be doing any cheap labor soon!
@ServiceAward wrote:
@Book wrote:
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I agree people should come here legally. Ial.
@Book wrote:
Yes, I believe the person who suggested, ‘almost everyone’ has committed felonies seems to be lumping ‘everyone’ with sex offenders and violent criminals. I believe most mystery shoppers don’t deserve to tarred with the same brush as the dregs of society.
@sandyf wrote:
If I had a list of the most common felonies almost everybody commits without getting caught I might agree...lying to your mon?
@sandyf wrote:
Not doing your homework, crossing against the light? I have never held anyone up at gunpoint. But I suppose there have been a few times when I was not charged for something in a restaurant and did not fess up. Is that theft? A free soda?
@sandyf wrote:
Almost everybody, at some point in their life, has committed a felony.
@ServiceAward wrote:
Not all felons are villans. Statistically speaking, you have committed multiple felonies, possibly without even knowing, and never been caught.
What felonies could be committed without knowing you were doing something wrong?
@ColoKate63 wrote:
Throughout my teaching career, I have encountered many felons (parents of my students, mostly.)
Not a single one of them was a sympathetic person. Without going into details, they had committed awful crimes against innocent people, most often their own children.
There seems to be a naïveté on this thread about truly terrible human beings. Believe me, they exist, they devastate lives, and you wouldn’t want to work alongside them.
@Minime wrote:
@ColoKate63 wrote:
Throughout my teaching career, I have encountered many felons (parents of my students, mostly.)
Not a single one of them was a sympathetic person. Without going into details, they had committed awful crimes against innocent people, most often their own children.
There seems to be a naïveté on this thread about truly terrible human beings. Believe me, they exist, they devastate lives, and you wouldn’t want to work alongside them.
@Minime wrote:
@Minime wrote:
@ColoKate63 wrote:
Throughout my teaching career, I have encountered many felons (parents of my students, mostly.)
Not a single one of them was a sympathetic person. Without going into details, they had committed awful crimes against innocent people, most often their own children.
There seems to be a naïveté on this thread about truly terrible human beings. Believe me, they exist, they devastate lives, and you wouldn’t want to work alongside them.
The naïveté is not only on this thread, it extends throughout this board. But I must say, the attempt to convince peeps that they’re felons truly takes the cake. I believe that the peeps who endorse this theory probably are felons, and would like to think they’re not alone. I myself am not. Maybe it’s because I have a brain. I can see right through the few wannabe gurus on this board who get off on convincing people of whatever hogwash that fits their agenda.
@ wrote:
Even if you look at someone's record, and they are classified as "violent," it doesn't mean they committed actual violence.
@ServiceAward wrote:
@sandyf wrote:
I guess I am living in a different world than the rest of you , or at least the two who made the two statements below...
I would like to know exactly which felonies "almost everybody" at some point committed. I do not think i actually know any of those people. And am I to believe that the majority of shoppers on this forum do not have clean criminal records? I am not talking about minor things like perhaps a parking ticket . I do not consider those people to be criminals unless it is a constant issue for them.
If I had a list of the most common felonies almost everybody commits without getting caught I might agree...lying to your mon? does that count. Not doing your homework, crossing against the light? I have never held anyone up at gunpoint. But I suppose there have been a few times when I was not charged for something in a restaurant and did not fess up. Is that theft? A free soda?
Speaking directly to project managers over the years, I’ve learned that there are a LOT of felons, sexual offenders, and addicts doing mystery shopping. It all turns up when they’re out trying to fill electronics store audits, or luxury car shops, or video casino work.
It’s difficult to find mystery shoppers who have clean criminal records, aren’t on the RSO list, and can pass a drug screening. Even more difficult to find shoppers with a 720+ credit score.
Almost everybody, at some point in their life, has committed a felony.
You are moving the goal posts. Are we talking about what you consider or what the law says? Those are two different things. We are all going to have our own opinion as to what should be a crime and what shouldn't as well as the degree of seriousness of said crimes. My statements reference the law and how the law classifies crime, not my personal opinion.
Things like parking violations and speeding tickets are generally civil in nature and a person committing those offenses would not be considered a criminal, much less a felon. There are exceptions. For instance, if you drive 15 or 20 mph over the speed limit, that is considered reckless driving in many jurisdictions. That would be considered either a misdemeanor or felony. Have you ever driving 15 mph over the speed limit? I have! In fact, in cities like Atlanta and Dallas, the flow of traffic is often well above the speed limit and if you don't keep up with it, you'll get run over.
The reason that "almost everybody" applies is that the federal criminal code is so vast and contains so many obscure behaviors that qualify as felonies, you would never be able to decipher it all. There was a study done a while back that concluded the average person commits 3 felonies per day without knowing it. That's just at the federal level, and does not include the vast array of state laws. Some states still have laws on the books which criminalizes (without getting graphic), certain behaviors between husbands and wives. Of course, these things are not enforced, but I'm not talking about what is or isn't enforced. I am talking about how easily people point their fingers at others who have been caught, while the same people reap the benefit of either not getting caught or committing crimes that involved laws which are not enforced. Again this doesn't mean someone goes about consciously committing crimes. At the same time, however, there are people sitting in prison right now who did not wake up with the thought they were going to commit a crime. The voices from the pulpit, which includes politics on both sides and, at least, local media, highlight the things, the ones putting the gun in someone's face for example. Many people in prison haven't done that. Even if you look at someone's record, and they are classified as "violent," it doesn't mean they committed actual violence. Violence is a legal term that each state and the federal government defines. The definitions vary depending on jurisdiction.
I highly recommend the book, "How to Become a Federal Criminal." It will enlighten you, and you'll laugh, too.
@sandyf wrote:
Anyone who scrolled down this far, in answer to Service Award, no I am not moving the goal posts! I am asking what the law considers a felony and gave a few examples for things that MIGHT be on that list. Those questions are not my personal opinion of a felony but a question to those who feel they are expert on the subject.
And no, because, and maybe precisely because, I am not a felon (personal opinion here) I am not talking about These scenarios below. Precisely because I am not a felon I would never even think of these exceptions when asking jokingly if lying to your mom is a felony or not turning in homework.
Depends? Is your mom working in a capacity where you perjured yourself to the extent where you could be charged with a felony? Did you intentionally lie to her with the goal of obtaining financial benefit? Did you lie to her in order to obtain an insurance payout?I
Is your homework part of a court ordered sentencing requirement? When you weren’t charged for the items at the restaurant, did you know the person? Was it a “hookup”? Did you have any intent to deprive?
I do admit I did hire a housekeeper and/or babysitter without paying into their social security. Perhaps that is why I never put myself on the ballot. Almost every other citizen in So Cal seems to be running for something this year.
@Capurato wrote:
Fun fact. As of 2023, 47% of the people incarcerated were classified as having committed a violent crime.
@Shop-et-al wrote:
In research, sometimes there is a need for broad-based results. When is the feedback of or via felons needed or appreciated?