Joe Sidders

As per the posting guidelines on this forum, I am not entering a personal insult. I am only making the statement that this person is not easy to work with and is very quick to insult you in a demeaning way (for example, what are you? A dumbass?) if you inadvertently apply for a shop that requires you to be an existing customer for the company they want to shop. I totally understand that requirement, and it makes total sense. As a shopper, I sometimes accidentally apply for a job that i may not meet the requirements for.

But Joe Sidders needs to realize that it is very competiive for the job opportunities these days. There is no need for insults and rudeness if we apply for something we do not qualify for. A simple, "you do not qualify for this job" would suffice.

There... I got it off my chest @JoeSidders

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Did he actually call you that?

Shopping Arkansas, Louisiana, & Mississippi.
@ServiceAward wrote:

I do not believe Joe or any scheduler, especially at that MSC, asked if you were a dumbass. That's not to say he didnt think it. Lord knows
I think it when reading about 50% of the posts on this forum. If it is at all representive of the MS field as a whole, I wouldn't blame them for asking if one was a dumb ass. But they are not that way. I don't particularly like Matt, but even he would not call someone that.

(Edit to remove my own dumb ass remark.)

In all seriousness, if he actually did do that, I think instead of venting here, a well-written e-mail to the boss is in order.

May I ask why you are not fond of Matt?
He is one of my favorites!

They lost my favorite client of all time during Covid (the program never came back)
He used to schedule that project and was awesome to work with.
My contract date with Intelli-shop is Nov. of 2005. During that period, I have completed 233 shops without the slightest problem with any of their schedulers or editors.
@viv0412 wrote:

@ServiceAward wrote:

I do not believe Joe or any scheduler, especially at that MSC, asked if you were a dumbass. That's not to say he didnt think it. Lord knows
I think it when reading about 50% of the posts on this forum. If it is at all representive of the MS field as a whole, I wouldn't blame them for asking if one was a dumb ass. But they are not that way. I don't particularly like Matt, but even he would not call someone that.

(Edit to remove my own dumb ass remark.)

In all seriousness, if he actually did do that, I think instead of venting here, a well-written e-mail to the boss is in order.

May I ask why you are not fond of Matt?
He is one of my favorites!

They lost my favorite client of all time during Covid (the program never came back)
He used to schedule that project and was awesome to work with.

I maybe new but I do have some bad experience with Matt myself. I signed up for one of the storage space job, information was confusing, it was supposed to be checking if they would provide me a entrance passcode after the place is closed when I placed booked a unit after hour or something like that. According to the guideline, it should happen, I should be able to enter, take pic and leave, that did not happen. I sent msg to Matt right away, he didn't reply back until next morning, he told me to "put that into the report" right away, which I did, and then he just rejected my report. Super bad experience. He was also in charge of one of the long term monthly grocery store project but always exclude me from application.

On the other hand, I had a few assignment with Joe before, mainly uber alcohol ones and he seems to be cool. Just tried one of the cell phone carrier reviews and will see how that one goes

Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 04/03/2024 02:22PM by kisekinecro.
I don't know Joe but seem to recall another negative post about a scheduler who was also a pastor. Was that about him, too?

Unless he schedules for multiple MSCs, I don't know why the OP didn't name Intelli-shop. Also, I would have contacted the MSC.
schedulers have nothing to do with whether or not your shop is accepted. If your shop was rejected it most likely was not for the thing you asked your scheduler about. And it was not the scheduler who rejected it.
Answering questions here...

No, he did not call me a dumbass. It was inferred by his tone (but this was via email, so we all know how things can be misinterpreted via email)

No, I did not have any shops rejected by him. I turned the jobs down, based on his email responses.

He might be a totally cool scheduler for all I know. Maybe I just caught him on a bad day.
Toggled.

@MysteryHulk wrote:

Answering questions here...

No, he did not call me a dumbass. It was inferred by his tone (but this was via email, so we all know how things can be misinterpreted via email)

No, I did not have any shops rejected by him. I turned the jobs down, based on his email responses.

He might be a totally cool scheduler for all I know. Maybe I just caught him on a bad day.
I compliment the OP for clearing the situation, BUT, the verbiage of the original post is egregious. I do not recall ever reading, on this forum, an attack predicated upon such assumptions.
Not my experience.

I recently had to cancel my first set of 5 cellphone audits because once I reached my first one I realized there was no way this type of job fits multi-day routes with timing requirements.

Joe was totally helpful in getting me set up with the shops at the start, and he cancelled the assignments without issue.

Have synthesizers, will travel...
@Morledzep wrote:

schedulers have nothing to do with whether or not your shop is accepted. If your shop was rejected it most likely was not for the thing you asked your scheduler about. And it was not the scheduler who rejected it.

Well...It maybe true, but it won't stop making me feel that way especially since I emailed him, followed his instruction and resulted in getting rejected. It isn't like I didn't get contacted him when I get into issue and move on or abandon job, I emailed him right away with my issue that isn;t in-line with the guideline, follow what he told me, and then no more communication, just rejection. and Since I have no way to communicate with his client, nor did he try to work with me. I can only come to the conclusion that he is an @#$%& and not helpful even when I am doing my part trying to finish the assignment.
@shopperbob wrote:

I compliment the OP for clearing the situation, BUT, the verbiage of the original post is egregious. I do not recall ever reading, on this forum, an attack predicated upon such assumptions.

The follow up by the OP was almost like they were retracting their original post, as in maybe they were wrong. They wrote that they were called a dumbass, but didn't originally clarify that's just what they assumed the scheduler tried to convey. Sometimes we need to take a breath and let things roll off the back rather than post a knee jerk reaction to a response by a scheduler that sounded snarky. I bet we have all had a snarky response or two from a scheduler at sometime in their shopping careers.

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/04/2024 01:29PM by hamptonroadsva.
I don't mean to slam the OP but I have had no problems with Joe Sidders and personally like the MSC he represents.
hamptonroadsva opines--Sometimes we need to take a breath and let things roll off the back rather than post a knee jerk reaction to a response by a scheduler that sounded snarky. I bet we have all had a snarky response or two from a scheduler at sometime in their shopping careers.

Bob comments--I agree with Hamp's suggestion. When I completed my first shop, I had the advantage of having been self-employed for almost 40 yrs. Although I do not have any recollection of a scheduler responding in a snarky manner, that could be due to me not interrupting the comment in the same manner as another shopper. The transition from being an employee to an IC can be daunting.
@kisekinecro wrote:

Well...It maybe true, but it won't stop making me feel that way especially since I emailed him, followed his instruction and resulted in getting rejected. It isn't like I didn't get contacted him when I get into issue and move on or abandon job, I emailed him right away with my issue that isn;t in-line with the guideline, follow what he told me, and then no more communication, just rejection. and Since I have no way to communicate with his client, nor did he try to work with me. I can only come to the conclusion that he is an @#$%& and not helpful even when I am doing my part trying to finish the assignment.

The MSC is your ONLY point of contact, you can't contact the client, not ever. That is NOT how mystery shopping works. The schedulers are ICs, just like us, their only job is to make sure the jobs are scheduled and completed. There is an editing team that checks your work and turns it into a report for the MSC's client. The editing team are also ICs most of the time, or they are employed by a contracted editing company, like Wordsmith Pros.

If you're going to do this, you should have at least a partial clue how it works. I don't work for Intelli-shop anymore, and I really don't remember Joe Sidders, so I have nothing to say about him personally. It's YOUR job to read the guidelines, and if you have questions about them, contact your scheduler, or the MSC to get clarification. Once the job is completed your scheduler can do absolutely nothing about how the editors score your report. You CAN reply to the emails from the editors, and/or make the corrections in your shop report when they return it to you. Blaming your scheduler for your mistake, not following through with the corrections from the editors is a wasted effort, it goes nowhere, and no one cares.
@Morledzep wrote:

@kisekinecro wrote:

Well...It maybe true, but it won't stop making me feel that way especially since I emailed him, followed his instruction and resulted in getting rejected. It isn't like I didn't get contacted him when I get into issue and move on or abandon job, I emailed him right away with my issue that isn;t in-line with the guideline, follow what he told me, and then no more communication, just rejection. and Since I have no way to communicate with his client, nor did he try to work with me. I can only come to the conclusion that he is an @#$%& and not helpful even when I am doing my part trying to finish the assignment.

The MSC is your ONLY point of contact, you can't contact the client, not ever. That is NOT how mystery shopping works. The schedulers are ICs, just like us, their only job is to make sure the jobs are scheduled and completed. There is an editing team that checks your work and turns it into a report for the MSC's client. The editing team are also ICs most of the time, or they are employed by a contracted editing company, like Wordsmith Pros.

If you're going to do this, you should have at least a partial clue how it works. I don't work for Intelli-shop anymore, and I really don't remember Joe Sidders, so I have nothing to say about him personally. It's YOUR job to read the guidelines, and if you have questions about them, contact your scheduler, or the MSC to get clarification. Once the job is completed your scheduler can do absolutely nothing about how the editors score your report. You CAN reply to the emails from the editors, and/or make the corrections in your shop report when they return it to you. Blaming your scheduler for your mistake, not following through with the corrections from the editors is a wasted effort, it goes nowhere, and no one cares.

Obviously you didn't even bother reading my post before blaming me for "making mistakes". Thanks
I don't even know Joe Sidders and I feel sorry for him (and schedulers in general) after reading this thread.
I find he is just to the point in his replies. So maybe that comes off as rude to some people. Idk. I live in New England and grew up in Jersey so I have a different threshold for friendliness I guess.
Matt is another story. I didn’t get paid for a storage shop bc they refused to do have me pay for a reservation over the phone or something like that. I wrote to him to ask how to fil out the form in light of that (didn’t give the option). Don’t remember all the details but he never replied to me and just notes I never completed the shop. So he can shove his desperate oil change shops up his you know what lol. (Not like I’d do that shop anyway.
@ebit123 wrote:

I find he is just to the point in his replies. So maybe that comes off as rude to some people. Idk. I live in New England and grew up in Jersey so I have a different threshold for friendliness I guess.
Matt is another story. I didn’t get paid for a storage shop bc they refused to do have me pay for a reservation over the phone or something like that. I wrote to him to ask how to fil out the form in light of that (didn’t give the option). Don’t remember all the details but he never replied to me and just notes I never completed the shop. So he can shove his desperate oil change shops up his you know what lol. (Not like I’d do that shop anyway.

Exactly same exp with me regarding Matt, and I was told it is my issue by someone here not Matt. Glad to hear that I am not isolated case when it comes to Matt and his storage job.

His monthly oil change is sad as well...always start with no pay with imbursement, then seeing 5+imbur, 10+imbur, 20+imbur, and then by the end of the month 30+imbur, honestly don't know if anyone taking that one at all
@kisekinecro wrote:

@ebit123 wrote:

I find he is just to the point in his replies. So maybe that comes off as rude to some people. Idk. I live in New England and grew up in Jersey so I have a different threshold for friendliness I guess.
Matt is another story. I didn’t get paid for a storage shop bc they refused to do have me pay for a reservation over the phone or something like that. I wrote to him to ask how to fil out the form in light of that (didn’t give the option). Don’t remember all the details but he never replied to me and just notes I never completed the shop. So he can shove his desperate oil change shops up his you know what lol. (Not like I’d do that shop anyway.

Exactly same exp with me regarding Matt, and I was told it is my issue by someone here not Matt. Glad to hear that I am not isolated case when it comes to Matt and his storage job.

His monthly oil change is sad as well...always start with no pay with imbursement, then seeing 5+imbur, 10+imbur, 20+imbur, and then by the end of the month 30+imbur, honestly don't know if anyone taking that one at all

I love those oil changes. Have been doing them for years. Two cars, what seems like every other month. (87k miles on a 2022 & 11k miles on a vehicle purchased just before Christmas this past year.... we drive a lot)
@viv0412 wrote:



I love those oil changes. Have been doing them for years. Two cars, what seems like every other month. (87k miles on a 2022 & 11k miles on a vehicle purchased just before Christmas this past year.... we drive a lot)

How easy is the job generally speaking?
@kisekinecro wrote:

@viv0412 wrote:



I love those oil changes. Have been doing them for years. Two cars, what seems like every other month. (87k miles on a 2022 & 11k miles on a vehicle purchased just before Christmas this past year.... we drive a lot)

How easy is the job generally speaking?

The job?
You just take your car in for an oil change. Make a call to the dealership before.
The report has some narrative, but it's not like a fine dining shop.
Those oil change shops have also now been adjusted so that they’ll reimburse for the full amount. I’m looking forward to picking one up as soon as my car needs one.
@kisekinecro wrote:

@ebit123 wrote:

I find he is just to the point in his replies. So maybe that comes off as rude to some people. Idk. I live in New England and grew up in Jersey so I have a different threshold for friendliness I guess.
Matt is another story. I didn’t get paid for a storage shop bc they refused to do have me pay for a reservation over the phone or something like that. I wrote to him to ask how to fil out the form in light of that (didn’t give the option). Don’t remember all the details but he never replied to me and just notes I never completed the shop. So he can shove his desperate oil change shops up his you know what lol. (Not like I’d do that shop anyway.

Exactly same exp with me regarding Matt, and I was told it is my issue by someone here not Matt. Glad to hear that I am not isolated case when it comes to Matt and his storage job.

His monthly oil change is sad as well...always start with no pay with imbursement, then seeing 5+imbur, 10+imbur, 20+imbur, and then by the end of the month 30+imbur, honestly don't know if anyone taking that one at all

I drive 50k miles per year and oil changes are around $100. I save $500/yr just for that car by doing oil changes for different MSCs. I have other cars we bring too, so this is a good $800 I save by mystery shopping. Matt has always been kind and helpful to me.
My car doesn't qualify. I found that out by applying for one then emailing my make/model/year to Matt. Crickets. Later I re- email to see if it was only that one location I (assumed) didn't qualify for or all of them (when the project allowed for more brands than currently). More crickets. How rude. But now I know not to waste my time with inquiries.
Matt is..Matt. He rubs me the wrong way from time to time, but it is what it is. He probably has to deal with a lot of dumbass emails and things of the sort ????
Matt has always been quickly responsive and I appreciate working his assignments.
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