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when will they either raise fee or forget shop?

May 12, 2025 12:56PM
Several apartment shops which require recorded pre visit call, then on site "easy and straight forward" yeah, really hardly have been sitting for MONTHS! I did one of these about 2 years ago and the on site has a lot of ridiculous questions such as raising objections several times- different objections- like in the bedroom saying the room is much too small for my furniture or in the kitchen, not enough cabinets and not a walk in pantry- or in any room- do not like the paint color. What is the rental agent to do about any of these things? After visit repot which takes hours and then wait 7 days for a follow up all for a whopping $40 or $45. These corporations that own the complexes are very wealthy and to expect someone to do a shop like this for this fee makes me say shame on them and shame on the MSC!
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May 12, 2025 03:22PM
I agree. They are a lot of work. I won't take them under $60.00.
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May 12, 2025 04:33PM
The wealthy corporations pay the MSC whatever amount they agree on. It's the MSCs who decide what the shopper pay will be according to the amount they choose to derive from each visit, which is, undoubtedly, way more than the shopper fee.
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May 12, 2025 05:40PM
Helena "hit the nail on its head." Any time the work:pay ratio is unacceptable, simply pass on the work. If the fees a company must pay exceed their required profit, they will exit the agreement ASAP.

Verbiage that was common 20 yrs. ago, where shoppers were asked to work for less to "help out" and/or receive "hero citations" seem to be long gone. It was either Jan. of 2008 or 2009, when Lorrie Kern posted a request on the Volition for shoppers to work for less to assist struggling MSCs.

Finally, there are the Independent/Assisted/Memory Care facilities where a monthly charge to residents can exceed 5 figures, but pays the shopper less than $100 for jobs where the total time is easily 3 hrs.
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May 12, 2025 08:59PM
I dunno people, I just take the quick and easy burger shops for anywhere from $30-60 fee. No way would I do the shops you're talking about.

Stop acting desperate.
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May 12, 2025 09:35PM
I stopped doing apartment shops unless bonused because fees have gone up in at least 5-6 years. And never do targeted ones.

I know, not apartment shops but similar.
I work at a Senior Center. Several of the members have recently moved into these idependendant living communities.

One gentleman went the deluxe version for around $10,000/mo. Another 93 year old Korean war Vet is moving next week into a $6,000/mo facility.

Both use walkers but are ambulatory as they ride the bus to the Senior Center. Granted their fees include breakfast and dinner.

This in a city with a 2020 census of 65,000.

Why have the shop fees stayed steady at $50-60 to start for at least the last 7 years for Senior community shops?

The onsite used to take about an hour and the report another hour. I don't do them anymore.
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May 13, 2025 12:25AM
@Fatlady wrote:

Several apartment shops which require recorded pre visit call, then on site "easy and straight forward" yeah, really hardly have been sitting for MONTHS!

If it is for Cirrus, it is because everyone knows about their payment schedule now.
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May 13, 2025 09:55AM
Those shops are obviously not important to them, so I don't get why they should be important for a shopper.
I know it often doesn't seem logical, but the list of things illogical grows by the day.
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May 16, 2025 01:45AM
The answer to the OP's question is, "When shoppers stop accepting the shops for that fee."
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May 20, 2025 04:38PM
It’s only gotten more preposterous. Even last year the apartment and senior gigs were fairly simple: plan a tour, get the literature, 30 questions for $50+

Now they want covert audio and video recordings, a weeks worth of follow up data, and 60+ questions plus narratives for half as much $$…and many of the the locations are now requiring us to sign in with facial recognition software and scans of our government ID …so any affiliates will have us in the database, and the fine print usually states they can share/sell that for profit…and hacking is even more of a risk with AI involved.

So…we should be compensated more for the work and risk.

For the time and costs of doing business, we could make as much sitting at home taking bogus surveys given that many of rates are 50% lower now.

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/20/2025 04:43PM by SBP.
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